2 bottles andromass
holy sh!!!!!!! whyyyy hahaha
i dont have enough hdrol for 2 seperate cycles. Im also not really that fond of the bridging concept, but i could be convinced to try it.
Yup, in fact this aspect will be part of the write-up we are releasing
yeah i would sell the other stuff.
tryin to keep a good stash, lookin to add to it soon
plan was for only 2 a year. i wanted to stock up on some non methyls
yeah. I bought a bunch of cycle assist in bulk a few months ago that I will use at full dose for each cycle. I was thinking about buying some tudca and using just one serving along with the cycle assist during the cycle and then 2 servigns with liv 52 during pct.
I would say Liver Juice is the best milk thistle product available, but TUDCA/UDCA will be stronger. TUDCA was previously manufactured by ThermoLife, and now antaeus labs will be releasing a new product, Aegis.
so if i ran it with my cycle assist can i use a half dose of tudca/udca (250mg instead of 500)?
It depends what you're running as far as other supports that you need. TUDCA should be used for more powerful orals (SD, UD, PP, etc.), but what else you'll need depends.
for dzine andromass androhard?
What dose of DZ? The AM/AH won't need much.
I wouldn't run more than 30mgs of Dzine, actually that is the most I would run. It is not worth it after that dose, sides are too bad nad you are going to get such a higher level of absorption dosing with AM/AH that you may not need much.
15 mgs for 3 days + 30 mgs for 36 days
You will be good with a half dose of TUDCA. I will be utilizing 300mg of pharm UDCA on my upcoming cycle.
That is a good plan and I think that is how much he has. You don't need anymore of DMZ, it is potent stuff.
yeah its cel dzine, 15 mgs per cap and 75 caps. so that would use all of it
is 10 mgs of sd harsher than 30 mgs of dzine?
It is an impossible question to answer, your body will determine that. Some people do fine on SD/DMZ, some don't, some do fine on one instead of the other, it is just something you have to take and find out. I can say that they are both SD based, DMZ is two superdrols bound together which is why it is so strong and anabolic.
yeah i understand what ur saying. I had another thought earlier about stacks and its going to be either am/stanodrol/dzine:
thanks for the advice, will write this down for future use. thoughts/preferences on the two stacks above?
dimethazine doesn't cause lethargy like the sd it's made from, it's 5time more androgenic and 1/4th as anabolic in the azine bond form. The a.h. Might navigate the post cycle sickness most dzine users get and solidify the gains.
with the second cycle would you run it with epi weeks 1-6 or epi 3-8? I cant decide on which would be more beneficial. Androhard will help control any aromatization from bold for the 2 weeks im not on epi right?
yeah i think either one should be great. Im hoping that running androhard with bold (if i do that cycle) will help bolds absorption and make it even more beneficial
1-6 since the bold will take awhile to build up. Aromatization with bold is a minor, minor possibility.
alright excellent. Looks like the cycle is going to come down to timing. If i start right after getting the bloods back it will be dzine, andromass and stanodrol for an all out bulk, if i wait until after new years it will likely be epi/bold/andro hard for a nice recomp
Natadrol is non-hormonal, afaik. They state you need a PCT for marketing purposes, but it shouldn't be suppressive.
Bloods will get taken on november 28 and i assume ill receive them within 7 days. If I started supports immediately after receiving the results then I could start the cycle around December 18 or 19, but I may push it back until a week or two after new years so I can celebrate. Im sitting at 185 right now. If I am at 188-190 when I start the cycle ill run epi/bold/ah on a recomp, if Im below 187 ill run dzine/andromass/stano on a lean bulk. I will log it. I talked with big black guy about the possibility of a semi sponsored log similar to last time and it appears that for the time being thats probably a no go, but if something changes between now and when I am closer to starting then the cycle could change
good to know, what does nettle do that makes it bad in pct?
Rodja would probably know better but since its more about freeing up test it can kind of trick your body to thinknig you have enough test so it wont create as much. I think you need to aim at total T with DAA does great before you start to free up test. you want to be almost or totally recovered before you use something like that. It sucks because I am a huge fan of nettle based herb boosters due to libido gets sky high. I cant remember if it has any prostate issues? it could be good or bad on that i forget. Rodja will chime in : )
Nettle decreases SHBG, which has two effects: it increases free test (good), but also increases E2 (bad). There's also another twist and that is because it increases free test, it also lowers total test. Something you never want to do is lower your total test during PCT. Another thing to remember is that SERMs also increase E2 (but this is their MoA and is how test production restarts) and you have a double need for estrogen control.
cool stuff, i learn something new every day. Thanks for the info
No problem.
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