Just curious how these two compare for sides and overall gains/results?
If your wanting the less harsh one than anavar will win. It is one of the least harsh orals and some people will take for long cycles if they can afford.I have both, mainly wanting something that is (supposedly) easy on the liver and also prostate, so something not very androgenic I believe (from what I’ve read the anabolic:androgenic ratio can help determine things like being harsh on prostate, correct?)
Lean bulk, which is why I’m leaning towards Epistane as I’ve heard var alone (though I am on TRT) doesn’t do much. I have a bottle of Havoc and enough Anavar to run 7 weeks at 50mg. Thinking I might save the Anavar for a stack in the future though.If your wanting the less harsh one than anavar will win. It is one of the least harsh orals and some people will take for long cycles if they can afford.
Also if you look at it's medical purposes patients will take for long periods of times. Much lower dose of course, but for me that has some value.
If you don't mind what are you planning your cycle to be?
What kind of sides?I personally hate Epistane, always gives me shitty sides and besides a tad strength increase I don’t notice anything. But I have seen some people really transform taking it.
Ah if that's the case then Epistane is the one for you. Ya Var is only good for cutting for guys imo.Lean bulk, which is why I’m leaning towards Epistane as I’ve heard var alone (though I am on TRT) doesn’t do much. I have a bottle of Havoc and enough Anavar to run 7 weeks at 50mg. Thinking I might save the Anavar for a stack in the future though.
I know there’s much better compounds for a lean bulk out there but would like to work with what I have for now... the rest of my stash is Olympus uk crap, sadly!
Epi stacks really well. Maybe a low dose Trest if you’re on TRT, May as well enjoy suppressive stuff. Trest and DHTs makes one hell of a transformation. You’d be out only $90 more bucks if you get some pro Trest, enough for 7 weeks.Lean bulk, which is why I’m leaning towards Epistane as I’ve heard var alone (though I am on TRT) doesn’t do much. I have a bottle of Havoc and enough Anavar to run 7 weeks at 50mg. Thinking I might save the Anavar for a stack in the future though.
I know there’s much better compounds for a lean bulk out there but would like to work with what I have for now... the rest of my stash is Olympus uk crap, sadly!
@40Yeah going with Epistane (Havoc) @ 30mg for 6 weeks. Might up to 40mg if things go smoothly. I’ll save the Var to stack with something like Max, perhaps
Yeah I’ll run it at 40mg, the more logs I’ve read, seems like that is the sweet spot. Thanks!@40
I respect caution but if you’re one of the few that Epi sucks for, you’ll know either way, if you’re the other 80%, you’ll want 40-60mg for it to do much.
Ya DHTs do. It will but it’s long term injectables that’ll get you. Not 4-6 weeks in a milder oral.Yeah I’ll run it at 40mg, the more logs I’ve read, seems like that is the sweet spot. Thanks!
You ever heard of Epistane effecting the prostate much? I know it’s a possibility with any of these types of compounds, just wanna know if it’s something that is fairly common as far as side effects go
I was hammer curling 65s on 60mg a day though and only side effect I had was blood pressure and back pumps. Stuff starts feeling more like Winnie over 40+Ive run epi 3 times and never needed more than 30mg.
They all are I’m sure. Maybe they don’t put the whole nomenclature.Starting Havoc tomorrow, hopefully all goes well.
Random question, why are some designers methyl and others aren’t?
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