Gonna be starting this cycle soon and running it 8 weeks, but wanted some input on how to dose it.
1 Andro TD - 75mg/ML
4 Andro TD - 100mg/ML
I figured that.. so 150mg a day of 1-Andro and 200mg a day of 4-Andro?You need about 3 more bottles of each of those for a good 8 week cycle
A sarms molecular weight is way too heavy for td application, makes complete sense. 1,4 andro are light enough for td application so no worries because absorption will still be greatly increased. I would still run the 1,4 andro at least around 300mg ed to have a decent cycle. Stano is good around a gram every day lolI figured that.. so 150mg a day of 1-Andro and 200mg a day of 4-Andro?
Also, I just read online that transdermal application is not good, and the liquid SARMS should be taken orally... what's that about?
300mg of each 1,4 andro ed?? Wtf I can't afford that lolA sarms molecular weight is way too heavy for td application, makes complete sense. 1,4 andro are light enough for td application so no worries because absorption will still be greatly increased. I would still run the 1,4 andro at least around 300mg ed to have a decent cycle. Stano is good around a gram every day lol
Dhea gains ain't cheap homie! OL will be doing something about that real soon though300mg of each 1,4 andro ed?? Wtf I can't afford that lol
That would be 16 bottles total just of 1, 4 andro though.. one bottle each every weekDhea gains ain't cheap homie! OL will be doing something about that real soon though
Those are 30ML bottles?That would be 16 bottles total just of 1, 4 andro though.. one bottle each every week
YesThose are 30ML bottles?
Ain't that the truth... I didn't start noticing effects until 2 weeks in and really started feeling it when I bumped it up to 500mg ed. Intrigued about this new OL product!Dhea gains ain't cheap homie! OL will be doing something about that real soon though
Just for Clarification... you are correct, Stano is great at a gram or 1000mg per day.A sarms molecular weight is way too heavy for td application, makes complete sense. 1,4 andro are light enough for td application so no worries because absorption will still be greatly increased. I would still run the 1,4 andro at least around 300mg ed to have a decent cycle. Stano is good around a gram every day lol
Ok, cool. Thanks for the clarification. Haven't really looked into these products yet. I like that they use iron legions salvo carrier so that's a big thumbs up imo. I thought stano and epiandro are the exact same compounds? I guess I need to tighten back up on all this stuff!Just for Clarification... you are correct, Stano is great at a gram or 1000mg per day.
But Alpha Stano is not Stano. it's EpiAndro in a cyclodextrin complex and should be run at 450mg to 600mg per day.
No need to run EpiAndro at a gram or 1000mg.
Alpha Stano TD is not Stano either. Its Transdermal EpiAndro
The only true Stano product Alpha Gainz has is Alpha Andro TD, which is Transdermal Androsterone (Stano)
Thank god.. so am I good with 150mg of 1-Andro and 200 of 4-Andro a day?Just for Clarification... you are correct, Stano is great at a gram or 1000mg per day.
But Alpha Stano is not Stano. it's EpiAndro in a cyclodextrin complex and should be run at 450mg to 600mg per day.
No need to run EpiAndro at a gram or 1000mg.
Alpha Stano TD is not Stano either. Its Transdermal EpiAndro
The only true Stano product Alpha Gainz has is Alpha Andro TD, which is Transdermal Androsterone (Stano)
start there, but plan on ramping up dosages of both- ESP the 1-andro If lean gains are what you're afterThank god.. so am I good with 150mg of 1-Andro and 200 of 4-Andro a day?
off topic - I dig the avatar bro, love me some GDThe study proving 1-Andro's effectiveness has a dose of 330 mg... Transdermal is probably less but can't be that much less...
Ok, cool. Thanks for the clarification. Haven't really looked into these products yet. I like that they use iron legions salvo carrier so that's a big thumbs up imo. I thought stano and epiandro are the exact same compounds? I guess I need to tighten back up on all this stuff!
Traps, upper back, and clavicles are going to be your best spots for td application. It never hurts to rotate application spots, skin irrational is always a possibility with td's. Splitting dose up every 12 hours is exactly what you need to do for optimal saturation.How about the application of the transdermal? I know it says to rotate the spots but should I also rub the 4-andro on a separate spot than the 1-andro?
-Also, I'm thinking applying them 2 separate doses, twice a day about 8-12 hours apart as well?
Sounds good, thanks.Traps, upper back, and clavicles are going to be your best spots for td application. It never hurts to rotate application spots, skin irrational is always a possibility with td's. Splitting dose up every 12 hours is exactly what you need to do for optimal saturation.
Yes I've read it's something like 2-6 times more effective.i have heard the salvo td delivery can increase absorption that of 4 times of oral
For thinner TD products I've always found it easiest to wear vinyl or latex gloves, which helps alleviate the concern of it being absorbed by the hands.Yes I've read it's something like 2-6 times more effective.
I dunno about strength so far, but I can definitely feel it. It's putting me in a weird mood and I'm not sure if I like it exactly yet haha.
The biggest problem so far with the TD is it's pretty thin so it absorbs very quickly, so I try not to get it on my hands as much as possible because I'm afraid of it soaking most of it in then I'm just washing it away. So I'm dropping it on my back/shoulders and trying to rub it in quickly with a few fingers... it also takes a few minutes to dry... so it's a pain but I'm hoping it's worth it.
I use Saran wrapFor thinner TD products I've always found it easiest to wear vinyl or latex gloves, which helps alleviate the concern of it being absorbed by the hands.
transdermal should have similar effect at about half that dose...maybe even less.Ain't that the truth... I didn't start noticing effects until 2 weeks in and really started feeling it when I bumped it up to 500mg ed. Intrigued about this new OL product!
keep us posted!Yes I've read it's something like 2-6 times more effective.
I dunno about strength so far, but I can definitely feel it. It's putting me in a weird mood and I'm not sure if I like it exactly yet haha.
The biggest problem so far with the TD is it's pretty thin so it absorbs very quickly, so I try not to get it on my hands as much as possible because I'm afraid of it soaking most of it in then I'm just washing it away. So I'm dropping it on my back/shoulders and trying to rub it in quickly with a few fingers... it also takes a few minutes to dry... so it's a pain but I'm hoping it's worth it.
Instead of using your hands use your forearm or wrist area and rub on tops of feet, quads, shoulders, upper arms,chest, abs or any of those areasYes I've read it's something like 2-6 times more effective.
I dunno about strength so far, but I can definitely feel it. It's putting me in a weird mood and I'm not sure if I like it exactly yet haha.
The biggest problem so far with the TD is it's pretty thin so it absorbs very quickly, so I try not to get it on my hands as much as possible because I'm afraid of it soaking most of it in then I'm just washing it away. So I'm dropping it on my back/shoulders and trying to rub it in quickly with a few fingers... it also takes a few minutes to dry... so it's a pain but I'm hoping it's worth it.
The stack pictured in the first post.what SARM are you running?
You think those are SARMS?. You should have researched a bit more before you started taking this stuff if you don't even have any clue as to what you are using.The stack pictured in the first post.
Those are pro hormones not SARMS dudeThe stack pictured in the first post.
I saw for $19.99. Is that it?I know who has td trest at an unbelievable price! !!!
Ok to run alpha stano with Endura Shread (GW+MK)? If so answer these questions please.I'd return the bottles and get some Alpha Stano instead. Maybe try the Alpha Andro TD, that stuff sounds interesting, especially stacked the Alpha Stano.
The MK he's referring to is Ostarine - MK 2866. Endurashred is GW and Ostarine together in a pill.I don't know much at all about MK. GW- I'm not a fan but if you already have it...Alpha Stano you can run it really long without worry. I've read of some guys running it up to 16 weeks. Yeah it can give a stimulant type feeling. I don't think I'd want to run ECY on it. No definitely wouldn't want to. I ran Ultra-Stano up to 1200mg a day and Alpha Stano is the same thing. Majority of the people that run it only go up to 600mg though.
Ohhh. I was thinking of GH product. I forget what it is called, but I thought it had an MK in it. LMAO!. You will lean confusion and T-bone go hand in hand!.The MK he's referring to is Ostarine - MK 2866. Endurashred is GW and Ostarine together in a pill.
Yeah Ghar1ne is MK 677 which is the growth hormone secretatogue. I can definitely understand how it can be confusing.Ohhh. I was thinking of GH product. I forget what it is called, but I thought it had an MK in it. LMAO!. You will lean confusion and T-bone go hand in hand!.
Thanks, good info here.I wouldn't run the Alpha Stano for more than 6-8 weeks...especially if you have concerns about shedding. if you're gonna run the Endura Shred for 16 weeks, I'd add this for the latter half of the cycle.
you should asses tolerance of stims while running AS...if you're dosing around the same time as AS. I cut down my pre workout dosage while running AS and my workouts were amazing (I dosed 300mg of AS pre workout). another thing you may consider: lowering the oral dose and using some stano td, the transdermal delivery should help keep blood levels more even between doses.
I'm not terribly well versed in SARMs, but from what I've read, this should be a good recomp/cut stack.
I completely forgot about Ghar and its chemical name. My bad.Yeah Ghar1ne is MK 677 which is the growth hormone secretatogue. I can definitely understand how it can be confusing.
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