I agree Dana would LIKE too man, But BJ is still far to good at 155 bro. When he did it to Tito he was at the end of his career anyway. Still putting bums on seats yeah, but not near the top of the heap.
Yeah probably. Tito must have been far worse than BJ. Wasn't there some hype about a Dana fighting Tito event for like a few weeks and then right before it was supposed to happen it just disappeared and nobody spoke about it? A buddy of mine heard about it too and then it was just not happening. No reason why or anything.
yeah and the fact is this as well, Tito, was NEVER the caliber of fighter that bj is. I see your point but like oz said, bj is the rocks at 155. I have never been a tito fan, i really think he was a poster boy for ufc for awhile, flashy, chicks dig him, yada yada yada. Not that great of a fighter, comparitively.
not that great of a fighter? The dude was absolutely unstoppable back in his glory days. He was practically the Matt Hughes of the 205 division until the Chuck and Randy era came around. Up until those guys no one even came close to him.
I would say Tito and BJ are opposite figures, in regard to work ethic and talent: BJ has talent and no ethic; Tito has all ethic and no talent.
Good call, And a fuking nice ass in that Avi to boot(no pun intended)
How long did he hold the title for agin? Saying he was the matt hughes of the 205 division is such a gross overstatement. The Matt Hughes? Really? You would actually use there names in the same sentence when talking about fighting? Matt hughes was the most dominant 170lber of all time, I would hardly categorize tito as the most dominant 205lber of a whole month.
That says it all.
apparently you are not a history buff of MMA. He was dominate as hell from the word go. His very first event when he came in as an alternate and whooped that one dudes ass. He was only 21(i think). He was whooping the hell out of Mezger in the final but lost because Big John broke the fighters to check Mezgers wounds and restarted them in a nuetral position. He then went on to whoop everybody except Frank Shamrock in one of the greatest fights in UFC history. He got the title and kept it for 2 years. Back then when the sport was evolving much faster, and there wasnt nearly as many events, that was an eternity. He dominated for a long long time given the era of the sport when it was evolving at light speed.
Actually, I am a ufc history guy. But that is beside the point. I didnt call him a absolutely no talent scrub. I said your Matt hughes comparision was utterly ridiculous. And it was. I would like to know your basis for that, my ufc history knowledge aside. Ive been watching since ufc 1 my freind, when most of american media had shunned it.
My only point here is that i believe that a huge part of the reason he was dominant, was for other reasons you stated above, Less events=less defenses and sport not as evolved=lower level of competition. Matt Hughes dominated the sport and has beaten every 170lber considered at the top of the heap. I think comparing the two is kind of like comparing tim sylvia to fedor. Again, I dont think he was terrible, but i believe the sport passed him by because he was never that good to begin with. He was still young, just not that good. He BARELY beat forrest griffin (most say he didnt) and forrest wasnt that great then, he isnt even considered that great now!!
dude! I understand. The competitionwas not up to GSP level back then. Thats reality. But back then, Ortiz was the best the sport had seen. I am in no way saying that he is a contender now, just like Hughes is no longer a contender.
they were what they were back in the day. lol at Sinosic.
It takes effort, dedication, work ethic and determination; not necessarily a relative abundance [...to others around you...] of talent. There are a considerable amount of pro athletes whom worked to attain their status level - others, like BJ, were genetically gifted. Comparatively, Tito's natural talent is sparse.
OMG!!!! THAT GIFF RULESYep, and Tito ran away (literally) from trouble.
Favorite GIF ever:
I would not say that anyone in the UFC has a sparse amount of talent. You got to have the genes to compete at the highest level of anything whether they be mental or physical.
Dude, Im pretty sure he meant a sparse amount comparitively to others. There are some who are born with much more natural ability, and have to work alot less for it, and others who have to spend so much more time and dedication to hone there skills.
Yes, precisely. Attaining an impressive athletic status [i.e., a place in a professional organization] does not necessarily mean you are/were "talented".
Here's another prime example:
Exactly. Another example you would love is Joe Sakic: not heralded as a talent skater, passer, or shooter, but created one of the best [if not the best] wrist shot ever through dedication and hard work.
Careful with the Sakic analogy; you don't win a Canadian Junior MVP without having a good amount of hype behind you.
DUDE, real nice grammar.....totally a joke!
Yes, definitely, he was a phenomenal player; that was my point, though! When you look at a Jagr, Selanne, Kariya, Crosby, OV type player, they have a mass abundance of natural talent that Sakic did not have. His class, determination and hard work molded him into of the league's most revered clutch performers of all-time!
I think it's also because he piled up a lot of his points in Quebec while they were atrocious and wasn't the best player on his team when they did start to excel (Forsberg).
AMEN BROTHER!!!!
Exactly. We all know he got fukcin handled. His camp needs to zip up.
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