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[h=1][FONT="]So what do you think?[/FONT][/h] [h=1][FONT="]Which is better ?
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true, but 1,4 tends to provide the same libido and well-being feelings is what I think the OP was getting at *ducks and hides*
i didn't notice it either, but i figured this could of been from not dosing high enough. would like to try it again some day.I have never noticed libido enhancement or mood elevations from boldione, boldenone etc...? More anxiety maybe....
4DHEA in AndroENHANCE will be one HELLUVA test base and Andro Stack enhancer....
-Matt
I have never noticed libido enhancement or mood elevations from boldione, boldenone etc...? More anxiety maybe....
4DHEA in AndroENHANCE will be one HELLUVA test base and Andro Stack enhancer....
-Matt
I have dosed iforce bold200 at 1000mg a day and noticed no such test-like effects. But it was a nice product while dieting. It seems to be one of those hit or miss hormones --- while some love it and some notice nothing from it... regardless of dose.i didn't notice it either, but i figured this could of been from not dosing high enough. would like to try it again some day.
hmm, maybe 600mg of bold 200+ 600mg of 4-diol for 6 weeks, with kick start of 20mg of m1t for 3 weeks then 16mg of m-diene for last 3 weeks followed up with stanodrol for another 4-6 weeks.... whoa ho ho. sounds good.... dont know how that would pan out though. lol.
what is andro enhance
It will be a topical 4DHEA that will be well stacked with the likes of AndroBulk, MASS or HARD fro ENHANCED effects....
-Matt
You gotta be kidding me....first he says PP is crap and 4X overpriced etc....then he apologizes and says he never said that.....then he says just use AAS its safer and cheaper.....now 180 degree turn again, and he wants to "convert" over to legal/PP products and shun the AAS world....LMFAO.... you can't make this shyt up.....sociopath and psychopath behavior at its finest......
You gotta be kidding me....first he says PP is crap and 4X overpriced etc....then he apologizes and says he never said that.....then he says just use AAS its safer and cheaper.....now 180 degree turn again, and he wants to "convert" over to legal/PP products and shun the AAS world....LMFAO.... you can't make this shyt up.....sociopath and psychopath behavior at its finest......
You gotta be kidding me....first he says PP is crap and 4X overpriced etc....then he apologizes and says he never said that.....then he says just use AAS its safer and cheaper.....now 180 degree turn again, and he wants to "convert" over to legal/PP products and shun the AAS world....LMFAO.... you can't make this shyt up.....sociopath and psychopath behavior at its finest......
4Dhea could definitely cause SOME suppression. We will have to do beta testing and record blood work to find out. However -- since you seem to not favor water bloat (big head) and harsh recovery periods....something like AndroHard would most likely suit you perfect, since it would reduce water bloat (lean face) and tighten up the body ---given diet is on point and you aren;t eating like a pig. Suppression is not bad at all and you can see the case reports we performed on our beta testers and check out there full blood panels before and after their cycles.i think i am done cycling forever because i hate the small balls and big water head and coming off them lol but i REALLY like where PP is going with these natty or semi/natty products, will 4-dhea cause suppression and if so how much?
Matt,4Dhea could definitely cause SOME suppression. We will have to do beta testing and record blood work to find out. However -- since you seem to not favor water bloat (big head) and harsh recovery periods....something like AndroHard would most likely suit you perfect, since it would reduce water bloat (lean face) and tighten up the body ---given diet is on point and you aren;t eating like a pig. Suppression is not bad at all and you can see the case reports we performed on our beta testers and check out there full blood panels before and after their cycles.
-Matt
4Dhea could definitely cause SOME suppression. We will have to do beta testing and record blood work to find out. However -- since you seem to not favor water bloat (big head) and harsh recovery periods....something like AndroHard would most likely suit you perfect, since it would reduce water bloat (lean face) and tighten up the body ---given diet is on point and you aren;t eating like a pig. Suppression is not bad at all and you can see the case reports we performed on our beta testers and check out there full blood panels before and after their cycles.
-Matt
I'm pretty sure superdrol for 3 months straight would end in death so hard to know how suppressed you'd be thenwhen is the next sale foro androhard? and lets say superdrol for 3 months straight os a 10 onm the suppression chart, what would androhard be like a 4 or a 5?
I'm pretty sure superdrol for 3 months straight would end in death so hard to know how suppressed you'd be then
Lol 4 months of SD? You should not touch hormones if your going to be that irresponsible.are you pretty sure? do you have any evidence to make that claim? Or are you just repeating what everybody else says? Ive done 4 months and got blood tests and my liver was only slightly elavated, bad idea but still.
Lol 4 months of SD? You should not touch hormones if your going to be that irresponsible.
i believe they are meaning on a daily basis.
run superdrol everyday past 8 weeks, i'd be curious to see how long you keep it up.
pulsing is stupid to begin with. safe, yea, but if you want safe, dont use steroids to begin with.
Well you would think it would cause these things, when you see bloodwork of people on cycle using sdrol and it looks like they actually may be dying, pretty sure I have search around and saw some bloodwork that showed liver enzymes elevated many times over normal and HDL in single digits and in a few cases unreadable, this would draw the assumption that long term use equals significant health risksmy point is everyone makes these claims over and over "sd will ruin your kidneys and liver if taken for more than 4 weeks and i got bloods and was fine, even though i used less i havent seen bloods from longterm (3-5months) use of sd to support these claims.
Well you would think it would cause these things, when you see bloodwork of people on cycle using sdrol and it looks like they actually may be dying, pretty sure I have search around and saw some bloodwork that showed liver enzymes elevated many times over normal and HDL in single digits and in a few cases unreadable, this would draw the assumption that long term use equals significant health risks
But some people superdrol doesn't bother them too bad, but then there are people like tbone who had a near death experience with superdrol, this steroid is not to be taken lightly no matter how its used, you may be fine, but plenty of people might not be
And people always forget, just cause you feel ok, doesn't mean you are ok, the insides of your body could be f*cked up
there is lots of evidence that superdrol if used irresponsibly is very dangerous to the liver.
but the same goes for all methylated steroids.
Ask T Bone about superdrol. He will give you enough evidence bro.ya good points jay dollars, i think it is definetly toxic i just havent seen tons of evidence but good points.
to be fair....I think some people are genetically susceptible to things that might harm your liver or heart or kidneys etc....those individuals will have immediate and harsh adverse reactions to this stuff....BUT the majority will not have these effects....at least not so dramatic or so soon....maybe they will over time? maybe they will not....again, I think it varies individual to individual. You see time to time a guy have a heart problem or a liver problem, and it gets sensationalized of course....but think of all the guys who DON'T have these problems who of course will not report not having a problem.....I know this from personal experience as well as observing things on the various boards for the past 10 or so years.....not just talking randomly out my ass or nothin' ........Ask T Bone about superdrol. He will give you enough evidence bro.
Depends on the kind of pulse routine you do. For instance, maybe you can do a three time a week SD pulse for 6 weeks. I really don't think that at the end of that you're going to feel much better than if you had just done it for 3 weeks ED.pulsing is stupid to begin with. safe, yea, but if you want safe, dont use steroids to begin with.
My girlfriend's grandfather was diagnosed with liver cancer last week,, a daily and weekly drinker, but nothing too excessive ... we should all always be concerned about our livers,, I for one take liver support in fairly high doses year around,,, but your comments on hdl are definitely valid!! I usually get the female hormone panel from privatemdlabs but it doesn't include lipids,,, Walgreens does in house lipids though,, not sure the cost or if they're reported to your primary care physician either,, prefer anonymity when it comes to cycle labsI am actually not the least bit concerned about the liver, people can drink a 5th of liquor a day for 30 years and never develop cirrhosis
My concern is for HDL, what goes on in your arteries for 3-6 weeks when your HDL is next to 0, that is my concern, not enough research on my part to validate the risk
Now not everyone's HDL gets destroyed, just most, I have been looking for bloodwork for on cycle results using TUDCA, and while its effects on the liver are promising, I think the results I saw lacked lipid values due to costs of the actual bloodwork, I am not sure of the correlation of lipids to liver stress is direct either, cause other stuff like furaz is not a methyl and that hurts HDL bad too
i had a few studies about superdrol's hepatotoxic effect on my old laptop that henryv had sent me, so i know they are out there.alrigth thanks bro just havent looked into it enough
Ask T Bone about superdrol. He will give you enough evidence bro.
Agreed 1000%I agree not everyone reacts the same and some have horroble sides while others are fine.
But SD appears to be one hormone that you just shouldnt play with or take lightly.
No its illegal.Does anybody even make bold anymore.
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