1/4/19nor/epi andro opinions on effectiveness, first cycle advise.

[Chair47]

I've always thought dhea pH where weak until I read some of the logs on here.

For those who have tried Andros, where you impressed? Did you see results? How did it compare to sarms?

Would you recommend Andros for a first cycle?

I'm pondering a 7week cycle, and wonder what the community thinks.
TRT. 200------------------------------->
1andro 330/550/550/880/550/550/330
19nor. 225/375/600/375/375/375/225
Yk11 0/0/0/0/5/10/5
Tudca, nac, milk thistle.
Pharma grade anastrozel

Any criticism is welcome. This would be my first cycle. The main appeal for me is legality of Andros. Others like msten and dmz have the side effect getting me fired at work, not to mention 17a health risk.

 

[Ironpirate]

I've always thought dhea pH where weak until I read some of the logs on here.

For those who have tried Andros, where you impressed? Did you see results? How did it compare to sarms?

Would you recommend Andros for a first cycle?

I'm pondering a 7week cycle, and wonder what the community thinks.
TRT. 200------------------------------->
1andro 330/550/550/880/550/550/330
19nor. 225/375/600/375/375/375/225
Yk11 0/0/0/0/5/10/5
Tudca, nac, milk thistle.
Pharma grade anastrozel

Any criticism is welcome. This would be my first cycle. The main appeal for me is legality of Andros. Others like msten and dmz have the side effect getting me fired at work, not to mention 17a health risk.
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Tell us a bit more about your statas and goals. Why would msten or dmz get you fired.

 

[Renew1]

I've always thought dhea pH where weak until I read some of the logs on here.

For those who have tried Andros, where you impressed? Did you see results? How did it compare to sarms?

Would you recommend Andros for a first cycle?

I'm pondering a 7week cycle, and wonder what the community thinks.
TRT. 200------------------------------->
1andro 330/550/550/880/550/550/330
19nor. 225/375/600/375/375/375/225
Yk11 0/0/0/0/5/10/5
Tudca, nac, milk thistle.
Pharma grade anastrozel

Any criticism is welcome. This would be my first cycle. The main appeal for me is legality of Andros. Others like msten and dmz have the side effect getting me fired at work, not to mention 17a health risk.

I definitely wouldn't taper down dosages.

 

[Chair47]

Goal: recomp. 5 lbs muscle gain, 3-5% drop in bf%. diet slightly above caloric maint.
Stats: 195lbs 5ft6" 20-23%bf 4y lifting
I've heard dosing starts at 300 for Andros, since you said taper down, what did you have in mind?

 

[Chair47]

And I would be fired because my govt job considers msten / dmz to be steroids.

 

[Renew1]

Goal: recomp. 5 lbs muscle gain, 3-5% drop in bf%. diet slightly above caloric maint.
Stats: 195lbs 5ft6" 20-23%bf 4y lifting
I've heard dosing starts at 300 for Andros, since you said taper down, what did you have in mind?

No..... DO NOT taper down anything.
The diminishing dosages you listed.... I would change that. You don't want #s going down during your cycle.

 

[Ironpirate]

1 andro at 440-550mg per day with your trt would be a nice safe cycle.

 

[Ironpirate]

And I would be fired because my govt job considers msten / dmz to be steroids.

They are correct

 

[Renew1]

They are correct

^^ 100% ^^

 

[Chair47]

Thanks y'all

After y'all's input, Now I'm thinking 8w
1 andro 330/330/440/440/440/550/550/550
19nor
225/225/300/300/300/375/375/375
Yk11 0/0/0/0/5/5/10/10

Yes they are 1000% correct about dmz / msten.

 

[Renew1]

Thanks y'all

After y'all's input, Now I'm thinking 8w
1 andro 330/330/440/440/440/550/550/550
19nor
225/225/300/300/300/375/375/375
Yk11 0/0/0/0/5/5/10/10

Yes they are 1000% correct about dmz / msten.

I'm just curious about the little yk-11 at the end ... ?

 

[Chair47]

Idk if myostatin would raise, so I want to lower myostatin.
I'm Pondering swapping yk for mk677 and epicacan
Ik 677 dosent reduce myo, but it would prob still give me results

 

[Renew1]

Idk if myostatin would raise, so I want to lower myostatin.
I'm Pondering swapping yk for mk677 and epicacan
Ik 677 dosent reduce myo, but it would prob still give me results

Ehh, you could keep the yk-11 if you like ... I was just curious.
If it is just a little at the end, I certainly wouldn't mess with mk-677.

 

[Chair47]

Duely noted.

Thanks everyone.