I keep hearing people on the net say that H-Drol is not all that suppressive. Well, 2 weeks in on CEL's product (50 mg ED), I'm up about 5-6 pounds, noticeably harder, fuller, with noticeable strength gains. But I've been feeling like a$$ lately. Don't have the "destroy the world" mental focus that I had while on Rebound Reloaded / Activate (see blood work from last year below). Only thing that gets me motivated right now is my MMA class.
I figured.... low Testosterone without much compensatory androgenic activity from H-Drol (Oral Turinabol has like ZERO androgenic activity). And sure enough, I'm running low on the man fuel. Interestingly, no shrinkage and not much drop in libido [yet].
Liver enzymes up a little... I'm on AI cycle support but I'm backing down to 25 mg ED of H-Drol and stacking my remaining Rebound Reloaded + Activate to see if I can get some Test back (might as well use it all). The NHA stack is easy on the liver (see blood work from last year below). I'm feeling A LOT better already in one day. This makes me believe that the 6-bromo in Reloaded is, in part, a PRO-HORMONE, that produces an ANDROGENIC metabolite. I don't think HPTA stimulation via AI happens that quickly to [presumably] get my Testosterone back up. Maybe it does, I dunno. Another idea is to run Activate Extreme and pulse H-Drol or other oral to reduce liver stress and limit shutdown.
Bottom line is....
1. Don't let internet scientists tell you that Halodrol/H-drol is mild and not very suppressive. You need a good post cycle therapy (mine is Torem inverse to 6-oxo Extreme).
2. When doing cycles, you NEED Testosterone as a base. Otherwise, you feel like a$$. I go with OTC Testosterone-based stuff only because I make too much money to risk breaking the law. Since Rebound Reloaded is discontinued, possibly Activate Extreme may be a good choice to stack with orals (just speculating since no one has blood work on this yet) to keep Testosterone levels up and feeling good. Otherwise, maybe go with Pheraplex or another Testosterone-based derivative as a standalone. In retrospect, it now makes sense that the original Gaspari Halodrol-50 had DMT/Madol in it, to help keep you feeling good. They probably knew the pure compound will make you feel like crap, which I just found out first hand.
Stay tuned for more blood work in about a month. You guys are lucky to have a forum member who's got the paper [and smarts] to run blood work regularly to objectively evaluate OTC items!
Attachment 1: Chem panel on NHA stack summer 2006.
Attachment 2: Testosterone levels on NHA stack summer 2006.
Attachment 3: Current liver Enzyme / Testosterone levels 2 weeks in on H-drol
Attachment 4: Current chem panel on H-Drol + NHA stack
Attachment 5: Testosterone and LH levels after 4 weeks PCT (Toremifene inverse to 6-OXO Extreme)
I figured.... low Testosterone without much compensatory androgenic activity from H-Drol (Oral Turinabol has like ZERO androgenic activity). And sure enough, I'm running low on the man fuel. Interestingly, no shrinkage and not much drop in libido [yet].
Liver enzymes up a little... I'm on AI cycle support but I'm backing down to 25 mg ED of H-Drol and stacking my remaining Rebound Reloaded + Activate to see if I can get some Test back (might as well use it all). The NHA stack is easy on the liver (see blood work from last year below). I'm feeling A LOT better already in one day. This makes me believe that the 6-bromo in Reloaded is, in part, a PRO-HORMONE, that produces an ANDROGENIC metabolite. I don't think HPTA stimulation via AI happens that quickly to [presumably] get my Testosterone back up. Maybe it does, I dunno. Another idea is to run Activate Extreme and pulse H-Drol or other oral to reduce liver stress and limit shutdown.
Bottom line is....
1. Don't let internet scientists tell you that Halodrol/H-drol is mild and not very suppressive. You need a good post cycle therapy (mine is Torem inverse to 6-oxo Extreme).
2. When doing cycles, you NEED Testosterone as a base. Otherwise, you feel like a$$. I go with OTC Testosterone-based stuff only because I make too much money to risk breaking the law. Since Rebound Reloaded is discontinued, possibly Activate Extreme may be a good choice to stack with orals (just speculating since no one has blood work on this yet) to keep Testosterone levels up and feeling good. Otherwise, maybe go with Pheraplex or another Testosterone-based derivative as a standalone. In retrospect, it now makes sense that the original Gaspari Halodrol-50 had DMT/Madol in it, to help keep you feeling good. They probably knew the pure compound will make you feel like crap, which I just found out first hand.
Stay tuned for more blood work in about a month. You guys are lucky to have a forum member who's got the paper [and smarts] to run blood work regularly to objectively evaluate OTC items!
Attachment 1: Chem panel on NHA stack summer 2006.
Attachment 2: Testosterone levels on NHA stack summer 2006.
Attachment 3: Current liver Enzyme / Testosterone levels 2 weeks in on H-drol
Attachment 4: Current chem panel on H-Drol + NHA stack
Attachment 5: Testosterone and LH levels after 4 weeks PCT (Toremifene inverse to 6-OXO Extreme)
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