Q and A for Olympus labs TR3ST

[deepseajs]

I like the sound of blow up fast. 150mg TD trest for the first cycle it is.

Ya bro make sure you have all your ancillaries before you start. You will need them

 

[reps4jesus]

I like the sound of blow up fast. 150mg TD trest for the first cycle it is.

Idk about TD. I used oral. And in which case use 100mg. Why use as high of a dose as me? iv done more cycles than I can count and I'm 240 pounds. I highly doubt you need the same amount of gear to grow that I do.

7 ? Are you effn serious

Ill do 2-3 more trest cycles in the future and probably lose a bottle or two to a buddy. Not to mention that's pocket change compared to what HGH costs me.

All oral trest run? How did dose it?

No I always run test and eq as well. 1g test and 500mg eq week as well. But I've done that a million times so I know the feeling of them. I don't do oral only cycles.

 

[gagandugan]

Can oral version be used at low dose for preworkout only if stacked with something like DMZ or MSten?

 

[abformulations]

Can oral version be used at low dose for preworkout only if stacked with something like DMZ or MSten?

Absolutely.

 

[ericos_bob]

Appreciate the concern man but I wasn't serious about running 150mg ED. Will be running at 50 and then upping to 100 depending how cycle goes. I'm not anywhere near 240lb. 200lb at 5'11. Won't be able to run another cycle for 12 months after so hoping to make the first one count. I've heard the OL labs TD is more potent than oral? Have cel cycle support, tudca for the halo and exemestane on hand for trest. The usual PCT nolva+clomid. I've read a few horror stories about PCT with trest taking a long time for recovery.

 

[reps4jesus]

Start at at least 75mg IMO. And theoretically it should be more potent but that doesn't always mean it is. Sounds like a good cycle. Halodrol at 75mg 8 weeks with trest at 75-100mg would be a great first cycle. Just make sure you have pharmaceutical grade clomid and nolva. That'll make recovery a whole lot easier. Good luck man.

 

[Choppedjunior]

is oral trest still even available from retailers in the US?

 

[gagandugan]

^
Yes.

 

[ericos_bob]

Start at at least 75mg IMO. And theoretically it should be more potent but that doesn't always mean it is. Sounds like a good cycle. Halodrol at 75mg 8 weeks with trest at 75-100mg would be a great first cycle. Just make sure you have pharmaceutical grade clomid and nolva. That'll make recovery a whole lot easier. Good luck man.

Cheers for the advice. Sounds good to me. It's pharma grade SERM's. Log will go up when it gets under way

 

[chainsaw]

How much transdermal trest to take daily? I have 2 bottles

 

[gagandugan]

50mg will do if you only want to use it as a base. More mg = more gains and possibly more sides. For pre-workout effect only - 20-30mg orally is what you need.

 

[Brandinooooo]

Depends on your goals. If its your first cycle, then 75mg daily with be good. For a base, 50mg like said above.

If its not your first cycle and you have proper ancillaries, then 125-150

 

[chainsaw]

I did oral trest a few years ago at a hundred milligrams a day I just don't know how much to use for transdermal

 

[chainsaw]

Ideally I would like to use oral and transdermal as I have been reading recently however attaining this is not possible anymore illegal

 

[Choppedjunior]

Ideally I would like to use oral and transdermal as I have been reading recently however attaining this is not possible anymore illegal

I ran 50mg of the transdermal for my first cycle, worked out fine, then upped it to 75mg. I am buying tr3st next and going to do same thing. first cycle at 50mg then maybe up for the 2nd. Everyones body is different, i rather play my cards safe then just dive right into what everyone claims is the sweet spot. but thats me.

 

[ericos_bob]

Has anyone run trest alongside 4ad? I have a bottle of sup3r-4 elite I'd like to throw in. Waste of time?

 

[Jebrook]

Has anyone run trest alongside 4ad? I have a bottle of sup3r-4 elite I'd like to throw in. Waste of time?

I wouldn't use it with Trest due to risk of Gyno from the combination. Trest is much stronger and will not require a test base which is pretty much the main point of 4 andro.

 

[Brandinooooo]

Has anyone run trest alongside 4ad? I have a bottle of sup3r-4 elite I'd like to throw in. Waste of time?

I'm doing Test with my derma/oral Trest. Its good but 4-andro wouldn't be worth it imo.

The conversion to test is minimal so its not gonna make much difference alongside Trest.

 

[Choppedjunior]

tr3st would cause gyno correct? so you'd need an AI

 

[paul56778]

tr3st would cause gyno correct? so you'd need an AI

Yes, it converts to a potent estrogen, Pharma AI minimum e.g. such as Arimidex or Aromasin.

 

[Synapsin]

is oral trest still even available from retailers in the US?

Check out nutri-verse

tr3st would cause gyno correct? so you'd need an AI

Yes, make sure you have an anti-e to use because it could cause gyno

 

[chainsaw]

The bottle of test I have is 60 50mg doses, so should I run it for 8 weeks, 60 days?

 

[Synapsin]

The bottle of test I have is 60 50mg doses, so should I run it for 8 weeks, 60 days?

Are you running trest alone?

 

[chainsaw]

Yes, just with formestane

 

[Synapsin]

Yes, just with formestane

50 mg for 60 days would be a good base then It'll be sorta like taking test solo, great gains

 

[chainsaw]

Last time I ran it 100mg a day 40 days but it was oral

 

[Synapsin]

Last time I ran it 100mg a day 40 days but it was oral

TD is way better than oral IMO. I would use oral for preworkout

 

[chainsaw]

That was 4 years ago before transdermal came out

 

[chainsaw]

I have a log on it on this site, did trest with stenzine

 

[Synapsin]

That was 4 years ago before transdermal came out

Ah yes. Well you'll like TD much more imo. Be sure to be careful when applying it, etc.

 

[abformulations]

I like oral pre workout and Td four hours after dosing the oral. ?

 

[gagandugan]

^

This.

 

[Brandinooooo]

I like oral pre workout and Td four hours after dosing the oral. ?

I prefer having td in the morning then the pwo spike then td about 4 hours after

 

[BrownBoi]

Looking for advice on the upcoming cycle. Let me know what you guys think, I'm open to tweaks.

Stack

I will use orange triad throughout.

Week 1 - cycle support

Week 2 - cycle support, 50 mg trest, 50 mg dermatrest, armicare pro, armidex 12.5 eod

Week 3 - cycle support, 50 mg trest, 50 mg dermatrest, armicare pro, armidex 12.5 eod

Week 4 - cycle support, 50 mg trest, 50 mg dermatrest, armicare pro, armidex 12.5 eod

Week 5 - cycle support, 50 mg trest, 50 mg dermatrest, armicare pro, armidex 12.5 eod, dermacrine

Week 6 - cycle support, 50 mg trest, 50 mg dermatrest, armicare pro, armidex 12.5 eod, dermacrine

Week 7 - cycle support, 50 mg trest, 50 mg dermatrest, armicare pro, armidex 12.5 eod, dermacrine

PCT
- orange triad, creatine, dermacrine

Week 8 - post cycle support, clomid 50
Week 9 - post cycle support, clomid 50
Week 10 - post cycle support, clomid 25
Week 11 - post cycle support, clomid 25

 

[kelso312]

Looking for advice on the upcoming cycle. Let me know what you guys think, I'm open to tweaks.

Stack

I will use orange triad throughout.

Week 1 - cycle support

Week 2 - cycle support, 50 mg trest, 50 mg dermatrest, armicare pro, armidex 12.5 eod

Week 3 - cycle support, 50 mg trest, 50 mg dermatrest, armicare pro, armidex 12.5 eod

Week 4 - cycle support, 50 mg trest, 50 mg dermatrest, armicare pro, armidex 12.5 eod

Week 5 - cycle support, 50 mg trest, 50 mg dermatrest, armicare pro, armidex 12.5 eod, dermacrine

Week 6 - cycle support, 50 mg trest, 50 mg dermatrest, armicare pro, armidex 12.5 eod, dermacrine

Week 7 - cycle support, 50 mg trest, 50 mg dermatrest, armicare pro, armidex 12.5 eod, dermacrine

PCT
- orange triad, creatine, dermacrine

Week 8 - post cycle support, clomid 50
Week 9 - post cycle support, clomid 50
Week 10 - post cycle support, clomid 25
Week 11 - post cycle support, clomid 25

I dont see why you would need dermacrine. Trest is not going to make you feel lethargic. And definitely dont use dermacrine during PCT.

Because Trest is aromatizes heavily I would consider running Nolva PCT. You can still use clomid but Clomid plus Nolva would be better.

 

[BrownBoi]

Copy that, I won't use the dermacrine. Do you think I need the cycle support plus the armicare pro? Or just the armicare? What about the armidex? I've heard some say that they have only used armicare pro.....

 

[kelso312]

Copy that, I won't use the dermacrine. Do you think I need the cycle support plus the armicare pro? Or just the armicare? What about the armidex? I've heard some say that they have only used armicare pro.....

Run the arimidex from day 1. Trest aromatises to 7-alpha-methyl-estradiol which will has a higher binding affinity than other forms. So nip it in the bud and run the arimidex. I have read some guys run a low dose of nolva while on trest to keep it from binding others run Letro with it - which I think is excessive. Point being use your AI from day 1.
Brandinooooo has a log up about his Trest run. Maybe he will crack an egg of knowledge on our heads here.

I will let the reps comment on the on cycle products.

 

[Brandinooooo]

Copy that, I won't use the dermacrine. Do you think I need the cycle support plus the armicare pro? Or just the armicare? What about the armidex? I've heard some say that they have only used armicare pro.....

Run the arimidex from day 1. Trest aromatises to 7-alpha-methyl-estradiol which will has a higher binding affinity than other forms. So nip it in the bud and run the arimidex. I have read some guys run a low dose of nolva while on trest to keep it from binding others run Letro with it - which I think is excessive. Point being use your AI from day 1.
Brandinooooo has a log up about his Trest run. Maybe he will crack an egg of knowledge on our heads here.

I will let the reps comment on the on cycle products.

I ran ar1micare pro as my cycle support. No need for dermacrine like Kelso said.
Your planning on taking the whole daily dose of ar1micare right?

I would definitely run nolva during pct as it will block the estrogen receptors in your titties.

 

[Woody]

You do not want to run 12.5mg adex. Do .5mg Adex or 6.25mg aromasin.

 

[BrownBoi]

Sorry I mis spoke. I have exemestane

 

[BrownBoi]

You do not want to run 12.5mg adex. Do .5mg Adex or 6.25mg aromasin.

Are you saying run 6.25 aromasin/exem everyday? Or just EOD? Take before bed? Thanks in advance

 

[Jebrook]

Are you saying run 6.25 aromasin/exem everyday? Or just EOD? Take before bed? Thanks in advance

EOD dosing is fine due to the very long half-life. Dosage timing is inconsequential as well for the same reason.

 

[BrownBoi]

On day three and I've noticed my body is unusually hot. I feel like a furnace lol

 

[kelso312]

On day three and I've noticed my body is unusually hot. I feel like a furnace lol

Yep. That will happen. Workouts I was drenched in sweat.

And yea take the AI like Jebrook stated. Dont stop taking it, Trest is a animal that must be kept in a tight leash.

 

[BrownBoi]

EOD dosing is fine due to the very long half-life. Dosage timing is inconsequential as well for the same reason.

Awesome, thanks. Based on what other threads and experiences, I think I'm going to go with 15 EOD. I don't wana mess w gyno. How does my pct look?

 

[Jebrook]

Awesome, thanks. Based on what other threads and experiences, I think I'm going to go with 15 EOD. I don't wana mess w gyno. How does my pct look?

Looks fine. Trest causes extreme shutdown so if you experience lowered libido afterwards, adding Kingsblood would really help, but Clomid is great for the 'ol coin purse.

 

[BrownBoi]

Looks fine. Trest causes extreme shutdown so if you experience lowered libido afterwards, adding Kingsblood would really help, but Clomid is great for the 'ol coin purse.

Hmmmmm half are suggesting clomid and the other half nolva.....

 

[Jebrook]

Hmmmmm half are suggesting clomid and the other half nolva.....

It's a personal preference. Both are extremely effective and each has unique pros and cons. The Nolva/Clomid debate has been around forever and usually devolves into "Broscience theory 101". As long as you use a SERM you will recover just fine.

 

[gagandugan]

Hmmmmm half are suggesting clomid and the other half nolva.....

It doesn't matter, really. Clomid might be faster at boosting test, but slightly less effective at controlling estrogen. I think people might get more emotional sides (and/or headache) with Clomid also. You generally feel nothing while taking Nolva. In any case, it's personal preference, both work very well in PCT.

 

[ericos_bob]

I run nolva+clomid. If you're going to fork out the cash for Nolva why not spend the extra few cents to supersize your PCT with clomid. i have run both solo in the past and was equally happy with the results. No sides with nolva or clomid. Both will get the family jewels plump in short order.