No sir. Straight shots of good tequila.. Had a corona too.. First beer in months .. IIFYM lolDid any of those drinks include a Long Island Iced Tea? Lol that was my drink of choice for like 6 months straight, delicious.
No sir. Straight shots of good tequila.. Had a corona too.. First beer in months .. IIFYM lolDid any of those drinks include a Long Island Iced Tea? Lol that was my drink of choice for like 6 months straight, delicious.
I can't do tequila.. Lol I know what you mean though. I was cutting throughout this summer and had to drink vodka most nights. Beer will always be my true love.No sir. Straight shots of good tequila.. Had a corona too.. First beer in months .. IIFYM lol
IIFTM for the win indeed haha!No sir. Straight shots of good tequila.. Had a corona too.. First beer in months .. IIFYM lol
I'm going to the brand new concert at ommegang brewery in Cooperstown NY next weekend... It's gonna be my first carb up since like may... Had it planned all summer; gonna be tons of amazing craft beers on sample and draft. Defuse+recompadrol ftwIIFTM for the win indeed haha!
Indulged in some craft beer myself. Plus a good buddy of mine and I brew our own.
Have you ever considered what this laundry list of supplements is doing to your endocrine system?Current supps:
OL LJ100
Anabeta original
AS cistamax,
Ursobolic 12 caps daily,
OL elim1nate 1 cap daily
OL Ep1c Unleashed
AS Forskolin 50mg
PES shift
Original usp c20
EC (2 x daily)
OL conqu3r DGE pre workout
I force KNO3
2 caps USP powerfull at bed
AP for fasted training
Staples/General health
Ubiquinol 200mg daily
Fish oil 2-4g daily
Orange triad multi
L tyrosine 1000mg daily
SAM e 200mg daily
Alcar 1000-1500mg daily
ZMA nightly
It's quite the laundry list and I have acquired a huge stash over time. It was great to start out my cut but the low t and metabolism crash has stalled me out...
Hopefully they're doing their job..Have you ever considered what this laundry list of supplements is doing to your endocrine system?
At what? Homeostasis doesn't require a bathtub of supplements! I'm not going to call you ignorant but...Hopefully they're doing their job..
He is trying to raise his Test levels. Of course homeostasis doesn't require a ton of supplements, but is this really much different than a PCT? He has a SERM, a couple natural test boosters, and an OTC AI.At what? Homeostasis doesn't require a bathtub of supplements! I'm not going to call you ignorant but...
Question is are these effective? The fact OP is on Clomid treatment and last blood result suggests not. Therefore if not effective should OP still be on all the t boosters and ais. My feeling is cut back to one or two and measure progress.He is trying to raise his Test levels. Of course homeostasis doesn't require a ton of supplements, but is this really much different than a PCT? He has a SERM, a couple natural test boosters, and an OTC AI.
This was the point I was trying to make. I apologize for miscommunicating and using "ignorant".Question is are these effective? The fact OP is on Clomid treatment and last blood result suggests not. Therefore if not effective should OP still be on all the t boosters and ais. My feeling is cut back to one or two and measure progress.
Do you feel youre levels would have been even lower without the t boosters? Not convinced myself. I think the x factor is your dietI am slowly reducing it. To basics. I'll feel more comfortable doing so once I know my levels are at a point that I can function without all the extra helpers
No way to know. Food is king... I think I seriously over trained and I know that's not a term to take lightly but I am THAT GUY... I just do everything in extremes or not at all. It's a learning process mentally as much as physicallyDo you feel youre levels would have been even lower without the t boosters? Not convinced myself. I think the x factor is your diet
Yes I consider it. Will I? I'm not sure. I don't want to sound like a dick either but the money isn't an issue, it's my hobby.. I spend money on quality food and supplements lol I don't waste it on much elseRefreshing candour. Not trying to preach but do consider cutting back a bit on the supps as part of your new resolve. If nothing else youll be saving a bundle
Feed the beast!Man hunger is astounding the last two days... I'm at 1900 calories and I'm not supposed to increase to 2000-2100 until the 24th on this reverse diet. It must be the test increasing and increasing my hunger? It's like nothing can satisfy me
Yeah buddy!!Feed the beast!
Unfortunantly in the situation you have found yourself in there is no way to have you cake and eat it to. If you have watched layne's videos on metabolic damage and reverse dieting the you should concede that there needs to be a period of pain (gain in body weight) as you look to repair your system.No way to know. Food is king... I think I seriously over trained and I know that's not a term to take lightly but I am THAT GUY... I just do everything in extremes or not at all. It's a learning process mentally as much as physically
Definitely I agree. When u get really lean (to a point that isn't healthily maintainable) lots happens physically AND Mentally. Once I broke out of the mindset that was keeping me in a bad place, I feel much better now. I am glad that I am up 7 pounds in two weeks. It's only water and glycogen retention. I am fuller and still lean.Unfortunantly in the situation you have found yourself in there is no way to have you cake and eat it to. If you have watched layne's videos on metabolic damage and reverse dieting the you should concede that there needs to be a period of pain (gain in body weight) as you look to repair your system.
All these attempts to correct you hormone balance are in vein and are merely a bandaid for an underlying issue. There is a reason they are at where they are my friend and no supp or even drug is going to fix the root of the problem.
You got to step back and ask yourself, is "your" definition of aesthetics really worth the long term problems which have arisen. And again in a years time if you do step up to the plate and repair fix your underlying problems i can guarantee you that you will be in a hugely better position
Even so, I'm happy to see you trending in the right direction!Obviously that isn't a full look at the big picture but test is up. He isn't the urologist so he didn't check the other important factors
good to hear man. hopefully you can keep that up...so to speakView attachment 122851
My rheumatologist ran a test check.. After two weeks on clomid I went front 220 to 569! Shwing!!!
I am dude. I had to bury it in my closet.I would be itching to crack that Letrone bottle open if I were you!
I will get my baseline draw on Monday the 24th after 3 weeks weeks on clomid (2 weeks at 25mg EOD, and 1 week at 12.5mg EOD)Gotcha. Misunderstood. Thought you already had your pre-letrone numbers.
So how many weeks will you be running clomid+letrone concurrently before testing again?
Most definitelyi believe the jury is still out as to whether letrone is suicidal or competitive. will you be doing followup bloods after coming off the letrone eventually to see if there's the type of rebound you'd get from a competitive ai?
Just curious... any reason for dosing 25mg EOD rather than 12.5mg everyday?So I've Had three doses at 12.5mg this week.. Estro sides are way down now today. My last 25mg dose was Saturday the 15th.
I feel like I miss the extra fullness in arms and shoulders, but the water, hot/itchy feeling was getting overwhelming in chest and stomach...
With that being said, I am planning on getting first labs done early next week Monday or Tuesday. And I will most likely go back to 25mg eod dosing since I will be resuming normal training next week. I think the 25mg eod plus regular training AND letrone is gonna be hella fun! I can feel a slight drop off in energy as well having lowered to 12.5mg eod.
So I'll probably cruise at 25mg eod with letrone and then get checked again at the end of September which will give us all a nice idea of how well the letrone worked at suppressing e2 sides from clomid.
Right on track!First draw (4 weeks) was today. Will have results sent directly to me via the quest app within 5 business days so sometime next week. I'll be starting letrone regardless next Thursday September 3rd and running one cap a day (tentatively) for 60 days to bring me to the end of October. Then I'll look to cycle off the ai's for a while if all looks well.
A second round of blood is already Ordered for September 28 (second draw) so everything is right on schedule !
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