miniarnold
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Anyone used injectible carnitine when cutting/dieting, its supposed to be a very good fat transporter and a very effective cutting tool (transports ffas to the mitchicondria)
Thoughts/experiences ?
if you have poweder how do you go about injecting it? bac water?probably a little more hardcore than most of the guys on this site are used to. but its a great way to get l-carnitine into your blood without losing it all to your digestive tract. I see better fat burning from this than ive ever gotten out of any of these designer l-carn's out there right now.
lol ok man well put, figured.you buy injectable l-carnitine. DO NOT TRY AND RECONSTITUTE L-CARN POWDER!!
Agreed, inj carnitine works much better than oral carnitine which doesnt have the same effect isnt potent enough and is wasted during digestionprobably a little more hardcore than most of the guys on this site are used to. but its a great way to get l-carnitine into your blood without losing it all to your digestive tract. I see better fat burning from this than ive ever gotten out of any of these designer l-carn's out there right now.
1-2iu is enough. no need for moreI would assume you guys are utilizing insulin as well?
no pain at all for meCorrect me if I'm wrong but I recall someone posting about this and saying it was a spot injection and it hurt like a mofo.
Agreed. My point was I wouldn't bother with injectable carnitine products without simultaneous low dose insulin usage.1-2iu is enough. no need for more
lmao, this.I dont really think you need to inject it that seems a little over the top
wouldnt life be so much easier if ever1 agreed on everything and said the same thing and there was no contradictionsI disagree, without the insulin there is not even a rational for injecting carnitine.
Yea i hear ya, but still dont think that would make it simple people will always disagreeI think if everyone would take the effort to really look into a subject and disregard potential biases there wouldn't be many contradictions in the first place
professionalmuscle.com apparantly neither is needed for it to be effectiveYou need the insulin to transport the carnitine into the muscle cell. This or taking it with a high glycemic carb drink but insulin injection would be more effective. Also when injecting insulin and carnitine this only needs to be done every three days. There is another forum which is very scientific which discusses the protocols at length
Awesome info.. And Mooch Where the Hell have you been?????? Long time no see.probably a little more hardcore than most of the guys on this site are used to. but its a great way to get l-carnitine into your blood without losing it all to your digestive tract. I see better fat burning from this than ive ever gotten out of any of these designer l-carn's out there right now.
Go to the dat forums and read on the "controlled medical studies" done by the Stephens group. The goal is to increase muscle carnitine. This in turn will increase fat oxidation for energy and reduce the amount of glycogen the body uses for energy. More fat loss better performance etc. I'm sure injecting carnitine is somewhat effective but studies show it to be much more effective when used in conjunction w insulin.
like i said i am unbiased, but you are foolish to make comments on it unless you have had a good read on the site about users experience and there dosing regimes, thers dozens of pages.You are also foolish if you think these pro body builders are not using slin. Along with gh, t3, test, tren and whatever other compounds they are running.
carnitine without insulin is just pure crap imo.Agreed. My point was I wouldn't bother with injectable carnitine products without simultaneous low dose insulin usage.
Exactly. ProM has a product to sell, and not everyone wants to use slin. So they are opening themselves up to a better market.carnitine without insulin is just pure crap imo.
Very true, very familiar with ProM. Slightly pricey.. but worth it IMO. They have a tremendous amount of resources over there.Exactly. ProM has a product to sell, and not everyone wants to use slin. So they are opening themselves up to a better market.
It is not like I tell you insulin would be good to use because I own the company selling insulin to you.
Yeah, but the study that demonstrated that, I think it required ~80-100 days to reach the target levels.This is exactly what I was trying to convey. But as we know 2 grams L car with 80grams high glycemic cho twice a day will work. It just takes longer to build up muscle carnitine levels
I wouldn't use slin if you are not comfortable with it. I myself have not used it. Will I in the future, possibly, but if it were to happen it would be relatively low dosed (1iu) for CPWO or Carnitine purposes only.I thiNk it was 24 weeks to increase muscle carnitine by over 20%. No where near as rapid as injecting both. But I am patient. Not ready to use slin. It just scares me. Used everything else under the sun even dnp. I guess I'm afraid of becoming a permanent diabetic. Especially since there is a family history. But I'm really not sure if exogenous supplementation could lead to diabetes?
brotha! whats up big C? long time man. ive been off starting business' and having babies. My time was not my own for a while.Awesome info.. And Mooch Where the Hell have you been?????? Long time no see.
Thats without slin, what is it with slinYeah, but the study that demonstrated that, I think it required ~80-100 days to reach the target levels.
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