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[WarcraftJJS]

Sounds like it is helping. I've started to take Animal PM and thats really helped me sleep and sleep deep. But the problem with Animal PM is all the pills you have to take just before bed. But for me it works.

 

[thebigt]

I added in 5-HTP last night. I have had sleeping issues every since I got out of the Marines but it seems like its elevated on Fat Free... many days where I lie wide awake all night. However last night I still woke up like 4-5 times, mostly to pxss but I went back to sleep right away... Stayed in bed for 8 hours and this is the closest thing to 8 hours of sleep I've gotten in a long time! I hope the 5-HTP continues to work because it would solve a lot of sleep problems and exhaustion problems for me... which... = results in the gym!

you might try phenibut a few times a week...

 

[MrKleen73]

Good stuff and great progress. I think you should take your second dose of Fat Free about 10:30 - 11:00. When I take my second dose of any stim it has to be earlier than most people so I can sleep well. If you can take the first dose before 9 then the 2nd around 10:30-11 I bet you get much better sleep.

 

[FlawedGrunt]

Good stuff and great progress. I think you should take your second dose of Fat Free about 10:30 - 11:00. When I take my second dose of any stim it has to be earlier than most people so I can sleep well. If you can take the first dose before 9 then the 2nd around 10:30-11 I bet you get much better sleep.

I hope so! I took my first dose at 7am this morning and 2nd about ten after noon. We'll see! I always have had problems sleeping so hopefully this will help overall sleep quality. Sure as hell seemed like it did.

PS - Im fighting the urge to measure my waist but i dont think its gone down enough. Beginning of day 4 and im down 7 lbs. So we'll see what happens come tomorrow morning!

 

[MrKleen73]

If you are like me your waist will get smaller from the top down so just above the navel is more likely down farther than where your pants fit.

 

[FlawedGrunt]

If you are like me your waist will get smaller from the top down so just above the navel is more likely down farther than where your pants fit.

I always measure just about... 1/2 inch to a inch below my belly button... its what i refer to as my "widest point" thanks to my horrendous love handles and lower back fat... the back fat is disgusting to look at it... glad i dont ever have to see it! my poor girlfriend hahaha

 

[FlawedGrunt]

you might try phenibut a few times a week...

I tried Muscle Pharms Bullet Proof which has Phenibut and Gaba in it... didnt do much for me... i still laid wide awake in bed... it wasnt until I downed an addition 3 tylenol pms with it that i finally fell asleep a hour later

 

[FlawedGrunt]

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Day 11 - Thursday - 20/23/2012

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Day 4 on Low Carb Crash Diet
Starting Weight: 225
Week 1 Weight: 220.4 (-3.6 lbs)
Today's Weight: 217 (-3.4 lbs) (-7lbs Total)

Workout:

Round	Exercises and Weights
Round 1	Ab Wheel Rollouts - 15 Standard Plank Touch and Go - 30 Crunches w/ Weight behind head - 10lbs x 20 Leg Raises and then press feet to ceiling - 15
Round 2	Ab Wheel Rollouts - 15 Standard Plank Touch and Go - 30 Crunches w/ Weight behind head - 25lbs x 20 Leg Raises and then press feet to ceiling - 15
Round 3	Ab Wheel Rollouts - 15 Standard Plank Touch and Go - 30 Crunches / Weight behind head - 25lbs x 20 Leg Raises and then press feet to ceiling - 15

My abs were killing me going in to the second set of these! I did 30 seconds of rest between each exercise and then a minute of rest between rounds.

Plank Touch and Go's are what I call where you do a standard plank and then twist your core to each side and touch the floor.

Then I went on to do cardio in a semi HIIT process for 20 minutes and burnt 310 calories. I made an excel spreadsheet to show what its set up like. It was on the elliptical

TOTAL FOOD INTAKE

Calories - g Pro - g Carbs - g Fat

Stand by for Food Intake Cals later

NOTES FOR TODAY:
I slept a ton better with 5-HTP last night! I was sweating like a fricken pig doing cardio today!


AM Dose (7am): 1 Cap Fat Free, 1 Cap Erase
PM Dose (1210pm): 1 Cap Fat Free, 1 Cap Erase

Other supps: 3g Daa, 1g LCLT, 4g Citrulline Malate, 4 Scoops Xtend, Multivitamin, 1g+ of EPA/DHA (fish oil), magnesium and potassium

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[chedapalooza]

Subd! Little late but looks solid so far!

 

[FlawedGrunt]

Who doesnt love a thread with some ladies in it! Sexy fit ladies!

Now that perked things up a bit!

THE LOG THAT IS! YOU SICKOS!:boobies:

 

[R1balla]

-7 pounds in around 2 weeks?! insane!

 

[MrKleen73]

Good stuff man way to go after it. I would be careful with products having L-Dopa in them if you are prone to night time anxiety. High levels of L-Dopa are known to cause anxiety in many people.

 

[houstontexas]

In here to watch you kill it bro. I'll read back through your log when I get a chance.

 

[FlawedGrunt]

-7 pounds in around 2 weeks?! insane!

Hell yeah! Im excited to see what the next 66 caps brings! ha

Good stuff man way to go after it. I would be careful with products having L-Dopa in them if you are prone to night time anxiety. High levels of L-Dopa are known to cause anxiety in many people.

Im going to have to look at my supps now! I was taking a L-Dopa supp actually not long before this 2 in the morning and 1 before bed and dont remember any problems... Maybe withdrawl? I dunno

In here to watch you kill it bro. I'll read back through your log when I get a chance.

Welcome to the party bro!

 

[chedapalooza]

Good stuff man way to go after it. I would be careful with products having L-Dopa in them if you are prone to night time anxiety. High levels of L-Dopa are known to cause anxiety in many people.

Really? Didn't know that..

 

[R1balla]

Good stuff man way to go after it. I would be careful with products having L-Dopa in them if you are prone to night time anxiety. High levels of L-Dopa are known to cause anxiety in many people.

this is why people who want to stack HGHup with Fat Free should use it with caution. great point

 

[FlawedGrunt]

Hey did everyone miss the hot chicks on the last page? Im going to have to bump them to this page i guess!

Subd! Little late but looks solid so far!

Welcome to the fun bro!

 

[FlawedGrunt]

MUCH BETTER... now i dont have to page back to see them again

Who doesnt love a thread with some ladies in it! Sexy fit ladies!

Now that perked things up a bit!

THE LOG THAT IS! YOU SICKOS!:boobies:

 

[FlawedGrunt]

this is why people who want to stack HGHup with Fat Free should use it with caution. great point

That is very good to know! I am going to see if any of my pre workouts or anything have L-Dopa in them

 

[FlawedGrunt]

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Day 11 - Thursday - 20/23/2012
CONTINUED

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Day 4 on Low Carb Crash Diet
Starting Weight: 225
Week 1 Weight: 220.4 (-3.6 lbs)
Today's Weight: 217 (-3.4 lbs) (-7lbs Total)

FOOD:

Meal
Meal 1	1 Cup ***e 0% Greek Yogurt 10oz Baked Chicken Breast 4 Tbsp Salsa 1 Tbsp Light Sour Cream 1 High Concentration Fish Oil Cap
Sub Total	435 Calories - 79g Pro - 6g Fat - 14g Carbs (minus 2g fiber = 12 net carbs)
Meal 2	2 NP Omega 3's 2.5 Scoops Muscle Milk Protein 2 Cups Lettuce 1/4 Cup Cucumber 1/4 Cup Peppers 1 Tbsp Fat Free Sugar Free Balsamic Sauce
Sub Total	416 Calories - 71g Pro - 8g Fat - 19g Carbs (minus 8g fiber = 11 net carbs)
Meal 3	1 Can Albacore 1 Scoop Casein/Whey Protein 1 High Concentration Fish Oil 1/2 Scoop Whey 2oz Chicken Breast
Sub Total	430 Calories - 79g Pro - 11 Fat - 7g Carbs (minus 1g fiber = 6 net carbs)
TOTAL FOOD INTAKE	1281 Calories - 229g Pro - 25g Fat - 40g Carbs (minus 11 grams fiber = 29 net carbs)

FOOD NOTES FOR TODAY:
I didn't have it in me today to eat eggs whites so I went ahead and had a couple extra scoops of protein. Jumped my carbs up a bit but oh well im still under 50 and under 30 if youre only counting net carbs


AM Dose (7am): 1 Cap Fat Free, 1 Cap Erase
PM Dose (1210pm): 1 Cap Fat Free, 1 Cap Erase

Other supps: 3g Daa, 1g LCLT, 4g Citrulline Malate, 4 Scoops Xtend, Multivitamin, 1g+ of EPA/DHA (fish oil), magnesium and potassium

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[FlawedGrunt]

Good stuff man way to go after it. I would be careful with products having L-Dopa in them if you are prone to night time anxiety. High levels of L-Dopa are known to cause anxiety in many people.

this is why people who want to stack HGHup with Fat Free should use it with caution. great point

Turns out the sleep aid I was using from Muscle Pharm called Bullet Proof does has some L-Dopa in it. R1balla whats the interaction between fat free and l-dopa that could be causing the problem?

 

[FlawedGrunt]

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Day 12 - Friday - 20/24/2012

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Day 5 on Low Carb Crash Diet
Day 12 on Fat-Free and Erase
Day 20 on DAA and LCLT
(added those in there so I can remember how far along I am on DAA)


Essentially took the day off because I got called out to do plowing at 3am. Plowed from 4-9 and then went and helped a shovel crew from 9-12. I was sweating like a beast while shoveling... I think Fat Free had something to do with that!

So anyways I counted that as some cardio and left the day as that. Since Im in a calorie deficit I didnt think I should go workout and hit the weights after that

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[FlawedGrunt]

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Day 13 - Saturday - 20/25/2012

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Day 5 on Low Carb Crash Diet
Starting Weight: 225
Week 1 Weight: 220.4 (-3.6 lbs)
Today's Weight: 215 (-5.4 lbs) (-10lbs Total)


I am pleased with my weight this morning! It didn't drop much over the last two days hovering at 217 at today the first I stepped on the scale it said 214.8 and i almost crapped myself but I gave it a best two out of 3 cause turns out my scale gives a few decimal number difference if you give it a few minutes to reset. If you do it right away it will stay the same number... deceitful little bastard!

Stay tuned for updates! I have to stack up workouts today since I missed yesterday... Shoulders Tris and Bis





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[FlawedGrunt]

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ATTENTION: Below this post may not be NSFW (More good looking chicks coming your way!)










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Todays collection looks apparently to be cell phone pics and yoga pants. All of these are coming from TheChive.com which has hilarious news and stories on it... but I usually get distracted by the ridiculous amount of hot chicks they post. Figured I should share the wealth! I gotta post this quick before my girlfriend comes around! hahaha

And Now to the yoga pants... These distract me everyday at the gym... Can't decide if they are a curse of a godsend! I used to try and sway my gf away from wearing "these look at my ass" pants to the gym... now I just find myself staring at my own girlfriends ass while she does cardio... hey I guess thats a good thing hahaha!

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[FlawedGrunt]

Btw speaking of pics and what not. I am going to put up pictures but I will probably wait till the end up to put up my starting pictures. I look extra disgusting in them so I'd rather see the whole transformation. I think I might put up some pictures of the different phases of my working out tho. If anyone wants to see pics lemme know

 

[R1balla]

Turns out the sleep aid I was using from Muscle Pharm called Bullet Proof does has some L-Dopa in it. R1balla whats the interaction between fat free and l-dopa that could be causing the problem?

Bullet Proof is MPs version of our IGF 2. i dont know ALL of the ingredients, but i compared the two before and they had a similar profile to an extent.

 

[R1balla]

Turns out the sleep aid I was using from Muscle Pharm called Bullet Proof does has some L-Dopa in it. R1balla whats the interaction between fat free and l-dopa that could be causing the problem?

too much L Dopa can cause sleep issues, mainly insomnia

 

[FlawedGrunt]

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Day 14 - Sunday - 20/26/2012

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Day 6 on Low Carb Crash Diet
Starting Weight: 225
Week 1 Weight: 220.4 (-3.6 lbs)


OFF DAY




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[FlawedGrunt]

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Day 15 - Monday - 20/27/2012

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Day 8 on Low Carb Crash Diet
Starting Weight: 225
Week 1 End Weight: 220.4 (-4.6 lbs)
Week 2 End Weight: 213.6 (-6.8 lbs) (Total of -11.4 lbs)


WORKOUT

Exercise	Wt	Reps	Wt	Reps	Wt	Reps
Bent Over Row	110	12	110	12	115	12
1 Arm DB Row	60	12	60	12	60	12
Rack Pull	BW	10	BW	10	BW	10
Seated Vbar Pull	144	10	132	10	132	10
DB Shurgs	70	12	70	12	--	--
Hyper Extensions	25	10	25	10	25	10

NOTES:
Overall I was very happy. Strength doesnt seem to be slipping at all. Was a little more exhausted than normal during this workout.

Those Rack Pulls are hard as hell (thanks Kleen if you are reading this). I thought they wouldn't be too bad. 10 times bodyweight was plenty for me and its probably some of the best lat isolation I've ever felt


NOTES FOR THE DAY:
Starting to get carb cravings a bit but overall I thought I would be a lot weaker this far in to a low carb low calorie run. I did have a headache yesterday but it eventually went away. Sleeping like a champ on 5-htp and valerian root!

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Day 8 on Low Carb Crash Diet
Day 15 on Fat-Free and Erase
Day 22 on DAA and LCLT
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[JudoJosh]

When are you taking the DAA?

 

[FlawedGrunt]

Usually about 30 minutes before workout with 1g LCLT and 4g Citrulline Malate

 

[FlawedGrunt]

When are you taking the DAA?

Usually about 30 minutes before workout with 1g LCLT and 4g Citrulline Malate

 

[FlawedGrunt]

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Day 16 - Tuesday - 20/28/2012

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Day 9 on Low Carb Crash Diet
Starting Weight: 225
Week 1 End Weight: 220.4 (-4.6 lbs)
Week 2 End Weight: 213.6
Todays Weight: 212.6 (-1 lb) (Total of -12.4 lb)


WORKOUT

Exercise	Wt	Reps	Wt	Reps	Wt	Reps	Wt	Reps
Incline BB	135	10	155	10	155	10	--	--
Flat BB	135	10	145	10	155	10	--	--
Incline To Flat DB Flyes Height (4,3,2,0) 30 seconds between each set like a drop set	30	10	30	10	30	10	30	10
Push Ups	BW	20	BW	20	BW	20	--	--

NOTES:
Those flyes going from a incline of 4 to 3 to 2 to 0 with 30 seconds of rest between were brutal! It was an idea working off of EasyEJL's version of doing it with incline to flat db press. I think he called it multi angular?


NOTES FOR THE DAY:
NA

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Day 9 on Low Carb Crash Diet
Day 16 on Fat-Free and Erase
Day 23 on DAA and LCLT
(added those in there so I can remember how far along I am on DAA)


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[FlawedGrunt]

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Day 17 - Wednesday - 02/29/2012

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Day 10 on Low Carb Crash Diet
Starting Weight: 225
Week 1 End Weight: 220.4 (-4.6 lbs)
Week 2 End Weight: 213.6
Todays Weight: 212 (-1.6 lb) (Total of -13 lb)


WORKOUT

Exercise	Wt	Reps	Wt	Reps	Wt	Reps	Wt	Reps
A2G Squats	155	10	175	10	185	10	--	--
Stiff Leg DL's	135	10	135	10	135	10	--	--
Leg Ext	150	10	180	10	195	10	--	--
Standing Calve Raises	225	10	237.5	10	262	20	--	--

NOTES:
Was starting to feel a little weak today but I pushed through it. Rushed the leg workout because I was in a hurry to get home and clean up since I had some job interview stuff to do.

NOTES FOR THE DAY:
Cant believe I am down to 212 already. The mirror doesnt seem to be moving much sometimes when I look at it... other times i feel like I look a lot leaner in it... so who knows! Friday I am finally going to have some carbs again. Cant wait!

I've been a sleeping pretty good lately btw with the addition of 5htp and valerian root.

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Day 10 on Low Carb Crash Diet
Day 17 on Fat-Free and Erase
Day 24 on DAA and LCLT
(added those in there so I can remember how far along I am on DAA)


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[FlawedGrunt]

I dont feel like I have made much progress yet... but you guys will probably see shxt I dont! Got a ways to go yet!

 

[chedapalooza]

Love handles chest n belly all shrinking n tightening up for sure.

 

[houstontexas]

Your lower belly looks better for sure imo

 

[fumoney]

Wow, sick results so far.

 

[R1balla]

Your stomach area is alot tighter! Great job!

 

[EasyEJL]

nice progress!

 

[FlawedGrunt]

Whoa i didnt get notification of any of these responses!

Thanks guys! Glad to hear you guys can see some things!

 

[FlawedGrunt]

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Day 18 - Thursday - 03/01/2012

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Day 11 on Low Carb Crash Diet
Starting Weight: 225
Week 1 End Weight: 220.4 (-4.6 lbs)
Week 2 End Weight: 213.6
Todays Weight: 210.6 (-2 lb) (Total of -14.4 lb)


WORKOUT

Exercise	Wt	Reps	Wt	Reps	Wt	Reps	Wt	Reps
BB Curls	45	10	65	10	65	10	65	10
Hammer DB Curls	25	10	30	10	30	10	--	--
Straight Bar Cable Curls	48	10	72	10	84	10	--	--

Exercise	Wt	Reps	Wt	Reps	Wt	Reps
Dips	10	10	25	10	35	10
Seated Overhead Ez Bar Extension	65	10	75	10	85	10
One Hand Cable Extensions	36	10	48	10	48	10
Bent Over Rope Kickbacks	24	10	36	10	36	10

Exercise	Wt	Reps	Wt	Reps	Wt	Reps
BB Military	105	10	105	10	105	10
Double DB Front Raise	25	10	25	10	25	10
Seated Rope Face Pulls	48	10	48	10	48	10
BB Shrugs	225	10	225	10	235	10

NOTES:
I decided that since I wanted to do a depletion workout on Friday that I would combine arms with shoulders today. Strength still semms on par.

NOTES FOR THE DAY:
NA

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Day 11 on Low Carb Crash Diet
Day 18 on Fat-Free and Erase
Day 25 on DAA and LCLT
(added those in there so I can remember how far along I am on DAA)


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[FlawedGrunt]

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Day 19 - Friday - 03/02/2012

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WORKOUT

Exercise	Wt	Reps	Wt	Reps	Wt	Reps	Wt	Reps
BB Squat	155	10	155	10	155	10	175	10
Leg Curls	140	10	140	10	140	10	--	--
Calve Raises	262.5	10	262.5	10	262.5	10	--	--
BB Bench	205	10	205	8	185	8	--	--
Incline DB	50	10	50	10	50	12	--	--
One Arm Cable Ext	36	10	48	10	48	10	60	10
Smith Machine Tri Pushdown	130	10	160	10	170	10	--	--
Lat Pull Down	120	10	120	10	108	10	--	--
Underhand Front Iso Lat Pull Down	140	10	140	10	140	10	--	--
Double Incline DB Curl	25	10	30	10	30	10	--	--
Rope Curls	72	10	72	10	72	10	--	--
Hammer Strength Preacher Trip Drop Set	75	8	65	7	55	6	45	8
Upright Row	25	12	45	10	45	10	45	10
Lat Raises	10	10	10	10	15	10	--	--
Straight Arm Pull Downs	36	10	48	10	--	--	--	--
DB Shrugs	70	10	70	10	75	10	--	--

NOTES FOR THE DAY:
Today is finally my carb up day! So I wanted to do a good depletion workout before ingestion a bajillion carbs!

FOOD INTAKE SO FAR:

Meal 1 (Immediately PWO)

2 Scoops Protein 2 Scoops Monster Maize 2 Cups Milk 250 Agmatine

820 Calories: 110g Carbs - 70g Protein - 10g Fat

Meal 2 (2pm)

3 Cups Fat Free Blue Bunny Ice Cream 2 Tbs Fat Free Carmel 2 Tbs Sugar Free Fudge

690 Calories: 172g Carbs - 25g Protein - 1g Fat

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My goal from today until tomorrow afternoon is 800g of carbs and low fat


Day 12 on Low Carb Crash Diet
Day 19 on Fat-Free and Erase
Day 26 on DAA and LCLT
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[houstontexas]

Whoa i didnt get notification of any of these responses!

Thanks guys! Glad to hear you guys can see some things!

U get my pm?

 

[rms80]

Turns out the sleep aid I was using from Muscle Pharm called Bullet Proof does has some L-Dopa in it. R1balla whats the interaction between fat free and l-dopa that could be causing the problem?

May not be the Fat Free that is causing all of your sleep issues- it may have more to do with the combo of B-6 and L-Dopa- you seem to be taking quite a bit of B-6. B-6 actually increases the conversion of dopamine to norepinephrine peripherally, and this may be causing some of the issues you are describing. Probably the first thing I would do is to lower your B-6 intake, and then try melatonin- 2-6 mg should take care of the issues you are describing....

 

[chedapalooza]

May not be the Fat Free that is causing all of your sleep issues- it may have more to do with the combo of B-6 and L-Dopa- you seem to be taking quite a bit of B-6. B-6 actually increases the conversion of dopamine to norepinephrine peripherally, and this may be causing some of the issues you are describing. Probably the first thing I would do is to lower your B-6 intake, and then try melatonin- 2-6 mg should take care of the issues you are describing....

Is it ok to take hghup with sleep aids like reduction pm/sleep maxx/3z ?

 

[rms80]

Is it ok to take hghup with sleep aids like reduction pm/sleep maxx/3z ?

It should be ok- but work the HGH-Up in very slowly- I would start with 2 capsules before bed, and then add a capsule every couple of days to see how it treats you.....

 

[MrKleen73]

Great stuff flawed the pics show a lot of progress. Things have really tightened up. How did the carb up go? How many lbs did you gain during it? How much of that has fallen back off?

 

[chedapalooza]

It should be ok- but work the HGH-Up in very slowly- I would start with 2 capsules before bed, and then add a capsule every couple of days to see how it treats you.....

Thanks, what would be signs or symptoms of it not working well together?

 

[MrKleen73]

Night time anxiety or restlessness. RMS80 does p-5-p have the same reaction with the L-Dopa?