First cycle of Test en, any recommendations?

[rglass0013]

Stats-
188 pounds
8% bodyfat
5'9

I will be running Test en for 250mg for ten weeks and stacking 25mg of anavar per day along with 20 mg of proviron as a blocker during cycle. The proviron will also be used along with my pct. However, i do have a small amount of flesh under my nipples from previous high dosed pro-hormone cycles. Its not too prominent, just noticeable when i wear tight shirts and sensitive to the touch.

This will be my first test cycle and the only thing on my mind is to put on good solid size and to ward off any more effects on my nipples. any recommendations to perfect this?

 

[kevinhy]

Stats-
188 pounds
8% bodyfat
5'9

I will be running Test en for 250mg for ten weeks and stacking 25mg of anavar per day along with 20 mg of proviron as a blocker during cycle. The proviron will also be used along with my pct. However, i do have a small amount of flesh under my nipples from previous high dosed pro-hormone cycles. Its not too prominent, just noticeable when i wear tight shirts and sensitive to the touch.

This will be my first test cycle and the only thing on my mind is to put on good solid size and to ward off any more effects on my nipples. any recommendations to perfect this?

Drop the proviron in PCT.

How long are you going to run the anavar for? 25mg is a very low dose but will still do damage to lipids and liver, id probably drop it in favor of a test prop kickstart.

 

[rglass0013]

i would like to run the anavar for 10 weeks, the full cycle. Would that not be wise? And as for the proviron, i should skip it during the pct but keep it the full 10 week cycle? I was debating on novadex as my pct. either that or clomi

 

[gymrat827]

Var for 10wks is iffy. But 25 mg is just a waste bro. 50 at the min. Extend the tes to 12wks. Prov during the cycle. Using it in pct will stop recovery pretty good. Use 50mg while on

 

[rglass0013]

Var for 10wks is iffy. But 25 mg is just a waste bro. 50 at the min. Extend the tes to 12wks. Prov during the cycle. Using it in pct will stop recovery pretty good. Use 50mg while on

So here would be the ideal stack

12 weeks of test
50mg var per day for maybe 6 weeks?
50mg of prov per day during the 12 weeks
novi or clomi as the pct

ive heard from a good friend that it would be good to run something to jump start my natural test around two weeks before the end of my cycle. i understand timing is crucial and i just want the perfect cycle

 

[kevinhy]

So here would be the ideal stack

12 weeks of test
50mg var per day for maybe 6 weeks?
50mg of prov per day during the 12 weeks
novi or clomi as the pct

ive heard from a good friend that it would be good to run something to jump start my natural test around two weeks before the end of my cycle. i understand timing is crucial and i just want the perfect cycle

That cycle looks much better. Dont run var any longer than 6 weeks.

You will want to jumpstart your natty test production two weeks following your last shot, look into proper PCT before you start your cycle.

 

[rglass0013]

That cycle looks much better. Dont run var any longer than 6 weeks.

You will want to jumpstart your natty test production two weeks following your last shot, look into proper PCT before you start your cycle.

would you suggest i take the var at the first 6 weeks?
also, im really looking into clomi and lectro to use as my pct, would that be something you suggest? Or would nolva be a better bet?

 

[kevinhy]

would you suggest i take the var at the first 6 weeks?
also, im really looking into clomi and lectro to use as my pct, would that be something you suggest? Or would nolva be a better bet?

Id probably do the last 6 weeks of the cycle with var, like this:

Test E 500mg weeks 1-12
Var 50mg/day weeks 8-14


This way you still have androgens in your system while the test E clears, then you can hit a smooth transition into PCT after you come off the var.

Clomid for PCT is good, but Id use another AI during PCT instead of letro. Erase, while being an OTC anti-estrogen also mitigates cortisol, a catabolic hormone.

letro should be mainly used only if gyno is becoming an issue.

 

[AnabolicAdict]

Id probably do the last 6 weeks of the cycle with var, like this:

Test E 500mg weeks 1-12
Var 50mg/day weeks 8-14


This way you still have androgens in your system while the test E clears, then you can hit a smooth transition into PCT after you come off the var.

Clomid for PCT is good, but Id use another AI during PCT instead of letro. Erase, while being an OTC anti-estrogen also mitigates cortisol, a catabolic hormone.

letro should be mainly used only if gyno is becoming an issue.

This^^^....add proviron at 50mg ed for the length of the cycle and you'll be hard as a rock and bangin youre girl 3 times a day lol. proviron piggy backs great with test

 

[rglass0013]

Id probably do the last 6 weeks of the cycle with var, like this:

Test E 500mg weeks 1-12
Var 50mg/day weeks 8-14


This way you still have androgens in your system while the test E clears, then you can hit a smooth transition into PCT after you come off the var.

Clomid for PCT is good, but Id use another AI during PCT instead of letro. Erase, while being an OTC anti-estrogen also mitigates cortisol, a catabolic hormone.

letro should be mainly used only if gyno is becoming an issue.

Erase really is legit. Alright ill run erase and clomid. so here it is

Test en weeks 1-12
Proviron weeks 1-12
Anavar weeks 8-14

Erase and Clomid weeks 12-15?

 

[kevinhy]

Erase really is legit. Alright ill run erase and clomid. so here it is

Test en weeks 1-12
Proviron weeks 1-12
Anavar weeks 8-14

Erase and Clomid weeks 12-15?

weeks 15-18=PCT

 

[rglass0013]

weeks 15-18=PCT

Dude youve been alot of help. I really appreciate your time.

 

[kevinhy]

Dude youve been alot of help. I really appreciate your time.

It's all good bro, good luck with the cycle!

 

[rglass0013]

Would it be wise to have lectro on hand in case of gyno?

 

[xtreme1087]

You need to run a test booster for a good 6-8 weeks and don't start Erase until the final week or week 3. Add in Lean Extreme for cortisol control to keep clean and you'll stay hard like a rock. I would steer clear of letro on PCT. Very small doses completely crush estro levels. Estrogen is a key mass building component, so you want a little, but you don't want it to rebound, hence the OTC Erase product. Run a DAA for overall well being, libido support, and increased recovery time. You'll be good to go!

I would run a PCT like this:

Week 1:
Clomid at 100mgs for 5 days only and then taper to 50mgs
DAA
HCGenerate

Week 2-3:
Clomid at 50mgs
DAA
HCGenerate

Week 4:
Clomid at 25mgs
DAA
HCGenerate
Lean Extreme
Erase

Week 5-8
HCGenerate
Lean Extreme
Erase
(DAA optional)

 

[gymrat827]

DO THIS

tes e 1-12 500mg
var 1-6 70mg
prov 1-12 50mg


pct

14-18

Clomid 100/50/50/25
Low dose AI --------------------(any one will suffice)
HCGenerate
Vit C 1000mg pre & post WO for cortisol control




everyone is making this more confusing that it needs to be. The var should be in the 1st half of the cycle cuz tes e takes 4wks to show results/provide strength gains. with var at day 1 your gains will start wayy eariler in the cycle. Making gains early allows the new muscle time to mature and ensure it will be there post PCT.