PH & pre-workout sups

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getting ready to start 8 week epistane/11-oxo bridge. would it be ok to have a dosage of jackd or a fatburner like oxyelite preworkout. or oxyelite dosage in the a.m. for fasted cardio.
 
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getting ready to start 8 week epistane/11-oxo bridge. would it be ok to have a dosage of jackd or a fatburner like oxyelite preworkout. or oxyelite dosage in the a.m. for fasted cardio.
When using Ph's its always important to check your BP. . .as most prework outs and or fat burners will add to the elevated bp. . i would advice not to. . .but others swear by it. . . Methylated products will raise your bp so as long as your in a good range it will o.k. but remember i'm not a doctor and its only my opinion :fing02:. . . Be careful and I would just run a lil prework out. . no need for a fat burner with epi and 11-oxo
 
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When using Ph's its always important to check your BP. . .as most prework outs and or fat burners will add to the elevated bp. . i would advice not to. . .but others swear by it. . . Methylated products will raise your bp so as long as your in a good range it will o.k. but remember i'm not a doctor and its only my opinion :fing02:. . . Be careful and I would just run a lil prework out. . no need for a fat burner with epi and 11-oxo
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that sounds like a nose bleed waiting to happen
 
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ive ran orals w/ helios + a pre workout + 1g+ caffeiene per day and never had a BP problem.

thats just me tho, play it by ear.

I dont really get sides tho
 
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yeah keep an eye on your bp, and if you're gonna use jack3d keep it at 1 scoop. I think that's what i'll do if i need it.
 

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thanks for the input. its more of a mental thing. pre-work sups keep me focused and pushes me through my workouts. i will experiment with 1 scoop of jacked and will monitor my BP.
 
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soem can use it fine soem have issues. i used dbol at 5mg ed for 5 weeks, felt great. but even just 25mg of drol and my head HURTS and i feel like **** and bp is SLIGHTLY up.

just keep your eye on your self while on.
 
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nice cycle, just take a care with 11-0xo.....i already used and i had a bad rebound of cortisol...it was a lot of water retention...

i do not use 11-oxo again....to me was bad.....with epi, in my opinion, will be nice with:
1º) X-tren
2º) Furuza-A
3º) Stano-drol / M-Lmg
 

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