PRIME is THE BOMB

[Alpine]

Alpine did you read the writeup on uspl's page??? woulda been the first place Id look for info....

Prime Supplement Facts:
Serving Size: 1 Capsule
Servings Per Container: 120
Amount Per Serving
Prime Blend (Proprietary blend) 600mg
SuperAnabolic (Engineered Extract from Tribulus Aquaticus)
Cellmend (Engineered Extract from Terminalia Chebula)

What's In USPlabs Prime™?
USPlabs Prime™ contains two extremely potent, novel ingredients.

* SuperAnabolic™: Our exclusive engineered extract of a species of Tribulus called Tribulus Acquaticus.

* CellMend™: another extract exclusive to USPlabs of a power-herb called Terminella Chebula – potent Anabolic Adaptagen

SuperAnabolic™
As mentioned, SuperAnabolic™ is a rare species of herb in the same family as Tribulus Terrestris. However, once you try USPlabs Prime™ you'll soon realize the comparisons stop there…

Not all members of the same family are created equal. Surely you've heard of Hammerin' Hank Aaron, with 755 career homeruns to his credit…

…But you've probably never heard of his brother, Tommy, who hit only 13 homeruns in his career!
Same "family", but my oh my, one member was many, many times more powerful!

…And this illustration is extremely accurate because the steroidal glycosides contained in USPlabs Prime make the saponins of tribulous terrestris look like the placebo!
Steroidal Gylcosides
Tribulus Aquaticus contains active steroidal components called steroidal glycosides...
However, the components in USPlabs Prime™ are unique to our specific extract of Tribulus Aquaticus and have not been found in any other compound in the world.

These steroidal glycosides are believed to exert their anabolic effects through non androgen receptor-mediated mechanisms, perhaps by possessing anti-glucocorticoid activity similar to pharmaceutical compounds such as methandrostenolone (D-bol).
In any case, it's obvious that these steroidal glycosides allow for a retention of nitrogen and either a decline in the catabolic processes related to skeletal muscle or an improvement in protein synthesis; the end result of which is increased muscle mass.

...Now, remember, it takes a boatload of raw, whole-herb Tribulus Aquaticus to make just one bottle of USPlabs Prime™.
Only USPlabs knows the extract – no one else!

…Also, ALL of the research in this letter has been done using our exclusive engineered extract.

CellMend™ – "King Of Medicines"

In India there has long been a secret compound used by the strongest, most virile men in India.
Day in and day out, these men wake up and perform 12-14 hours of back-breaking physical labor…

In India, these men get paid on a daily basis for the work they do. There are no paychecks. On average, these men get paid $0.75-$1.00 each day in cash. Therefore, days off are few and far between.

…Yet, even though there's a tremendous amount of stress placed upon these men, they are able to look young, stay strong, stay virile and remain sharp mentally.

What's their secret?

The Ayurvedic medicinal system points to a wonder-fruit called terminalia chebula. Its viewed as one of the most potent CNS and body adaptagenic compounds the world has ever seen.

It's proposed that terminalla chebula balances the entire body mentally and physically - placing your body in a perfect state of balance during times of intense stress.

Terminalia Chebula is called the "King of Medicines" by those in India…

It's always listed first in the Ayurvedic meteria medica because of its extraordinary powers of healing.

According to Charak, the most eminent Ayurvedic physician, Terminalia Chebula is the best fruit for rejuvenation and disease cure.

Additional Terminalia Chebula benefits:

* Also contains antioxidant components, which indicates it may increase the life of tissues.

* In Ayurveda, Terminalia Chebula is used for 'Srotoshodhana' or purifying the channels of body

* It's thought to stimulate & protect the liver.

* When taken with meals, it's believed to sharpen the intellect, increases strength, stimulates the senses, expel urine, stool and other waste materials from the body.

* It's used in nervous weakness & irritability. It promotes the receiving power of the five senses.

* Based on its comprehensive properties, it promotes appetite and helps indigestion.

Cellmend™ Research

Oxidative Stress and Lipid Peroxidation are recently being implicated in a wide-range of physiological disorders, due to their damaging effects on cell transcription and homeostasis.

Oxidative Stress is the production of Reactive Oxygen Species (ROS) such as peroxides and free radicals, as a result of an imbalance in cellular reduction – that is, as the mitochondria metabolize energy, they undergo cellular respiration; this process produces ‘reactive oxygen', and damaging reactive oxygen species arise when the body cannot readily detoxify the intermediates in this process.

Oxidative Stress then ensues when the body cannot repair the stress from the initial reaction, or as mentioned, readily redox the productive aspect of cellular respiration.

The tangible effects of OS are inhibited DNA and protein transcription, membrane instability, aptosis, or ultimately, necrosis. Such conditions play a prominent role in degradative neural diseases such as Parkinson's and Alzheimer's.

Lipid Peroxidation (LP) is a highly similar process, and involves the degradative oxidation of cell plasma membranes (as cell membranes are comprised almost entirely of lipid strains).

Ultimately, LP results in cell membrane instability, and acute cellular damage. It is also implicated in a wide-range of physiological disorders.

…As a result of these damaging processes, much research is being conducted in the field of anti-oxidants – or, compounds which combat the oxidative stresses of cellular respiration and free radical production.

Recent research has revealed Terminalia Chebula (TC) has both potent secondary and direct effects on oxidative stress.

On a study conducted on dermal wounds, TC increased cellular DNA and total protein expression of cells within the wound, as well as significantly decreasing lipid peroxidase and increasing DPPH radical quenching capacity [4].

Further, tensile strength of the wounded tissue was increased 40% post-healing, suggesting that TC significantly increased cellular membrane stability and that post-reactive stress was greatly attenuated [3].

This is very promising data in respects to resistance training, insofar as the increase of tensile strength in TC healed tissue may result in increased fiber density and resistance to load capacity.

In addition to its potent anti-oxidative and healing capacity, TC is also an anti-microbial/anti-bacterial agent; significantly increasing the body's resistance to Staff Infection [3], and E. Coli proliferation [1].

TC has also been shown to mitigate hepatic oxidative stress, via its aforementioned anti-oxidative and membrane stabilizing capacities [2].

Current clinical data suggests TC may be a novel approach to resistance training induced oxidative stress; significantly attenuating membrane degrdatation, ROS production, lipid peroxidation, as well as increasing total cellular DNA and protein levels –direct precursors to cellular repair.

[1] Growth-Inhibiting Activity of Active Component Isolated from Terminalia chebula Fruits against Intestinal Bacteria. Kim, H.G et al. Journal of Food Protection®, Volume 69, Number 9,September 2006 , pp. 2205-2209(5)

[2] Terminalia chebula (fruit) prevents liver toxicity caused by sub-chronic administration of rifampicin, isoniazid and pyrazinamide in combination. S A Tasduq et al. Division of Pharmacology and Natural Products Chemistry, Regional Research Laboratory, (CSIR).

[3] Influence of Terminalia chebula on dermal wound healing in rats. Lonchin Sugung et al. Department of
Biochemistry, Central Leather Research Institute, Adyar, Chennai 600 020, India. 2002.

OH THANKS!

It's Tribulus and CELLMEND ok, that clears it up. Count me in for 6 bottles. Done and Done

By the way, less dip sh1t testimonials and more studies showing this will do anything for muscle gain... hell, i'll even take rats. Those 3 references demonstrate nothing and likely make up the current body of literature for these "cutting edge" compounds.

 

[THEGEEZ]

this is a very interesting thread u got goin here .. who cares where jacobs office is and all that bs .. every usp product i tried WORKED for me including PRIME ! i mean it doesn't deliver the results it claims just yet but its still 1 of the best supps i have ever takin

 

[Cerberus]

OH THANKS!

It's Tribulus and CELLMEND ok, that clears it up. Count me in for 6 bottles. Done and Done

By the way, less dip **** testimonials and more studies, pubmeds, anything. Anything at all will do...

ha, awesome. Keep being critical Alpine. This board needs more of it. Too many people are so damn dumb.

Hold on, let me beat everyoen to it. "If you think you are so smart, blah blah blah ... why don't you leave then ... blah blah blah"

I personally bought 3 bottles just to try it out. I had cash, I said what the hell. I may or may not write a review when I'm done. If it's negative, I'll be taunted with some zero-brain cell reason why it didn't work for me.

 

[Alpine]

ha, awesome. Keep being critical Alpine. This board needs more of it. Too many people are so damn dumb.

Hold on, let me beat everyoen to it. "If you think you are so smart, blah blah blah ... why don't you leave then ... blah blah blah"

I personally bought 3 bottles just to try it out. I had cash, I said what the hell. I may or may not write a review when I'm done. If it's negative, I'll be taunted with some zero-brain cell reason why it didn't work for me.

This board did used to be more critical and objective. Thats why i liked it. The BS didnt fly quite as easily as it did on other boards. Sadly, some of that has changed. Most people who know better dont feel the need to waste their breath trying to enlighten younger membership. I probably wont either in about 15 minutes.

By the way, i see some ppl talkin **** on PA. Ya, hes a business man. Ya he has an ego. Ya his product was overpriced (although i promise his production costs are some of the highest around). But one thing PA would never do is put out a product like this based on nothing and then flood the forum landscape with marketing. He hasnt done it yet and he wont do it. 11-oxo is a novel compound with legit effects. Is it under dosed and overpriced to get much result - Yes. Would I spend money on it - No. All of PA's other offerings stand on their own. I would say he could have pushed a LOT MORE questionable products out and he hasnt.

 

[B5150]

I think most are lacking in the understanding of what adaptogens are, their MOA, and the benefits for someone who practices the stressful lifestyle of resistance and athletic training:

Adaptogen - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Claims aside. Most are bashing what they don't understand and have not used and/or experienced first hand.

BTW - superdrol is STILL NOT a prohormone :hammer:

 

[joebo]

Granted I don't buy into all the marketing hype, but I don't see why people get all worked up over it. Bottom line is USP is a business and in the long run wants to be profitable. If making a Muscletech like writeup for a good product works, then so be it. People bash Muscletech, but if I owned Muscletech I could care less because my products are still moving off shelves all over the world and thats all that matters. Jacobs products for me have all worked, but I didn't see results with P-Slin like i thought I would. If you don't like USP or their products, don't buy them.

 

[Guest]

By the way, i see some ppl talkin **** on PA. Ya, hes a business man. Ya he has an ego. Ya his product was overpriced (although i promise his production costs are some of the highest around). But one thing PA would never do is put out a product like this based on nothing and then flood the forum landscape with marketing.

Bullshit, 11-oxo is all theory.


Calling another person a dipshit on the faceless internet makes you a dipshit...just thought i let you know that.

 

[joebo]

Jacob could have released this just to the inner circle and given no description or writeup and sales would still be as high as they currently are. People have learned to trust USP products.

 

[Alpine]

Bullshit, 11-oxo is all theory.


Calling another person a dipshit on the faceless internet makes you a dipshit...just thought i let you know that.

No im pretty sure after seeing some of the testimonials that they are dip shits. Call it like i seem um...

I figured this would happen sooner or later. Even B5 is chiming in with Adaptogens. Ya, thanks for your contribution. Who wants to pay $40 for some ginseng? PM ME...

I think im done here. This is exactly what I'm talking about. Questioning a hot new product doesn't seem to go over too well.
That's a problem as I see it. I'll try and restrain myself from posting outside the nutraplanet threads from now on.

 

[Guest]

No im pretty sure after seeing some of the testimonials that they are dip shits. Call it like i seem um...

I figured this would happen sooner or later. Even B5 is chiming in. I think im done here. This is exactly what I'm talking about. Questioning a hot new product doesn't seem to go over too well.
That's a problem as I see it.

In that case your opinion is worthless and doesn't change the fact you are a dipshit.

 

[Alpine]

In that case your opinion is worthless and doesn't change the fact you are a dipshit.

Sorry I'm not promoting your product. You have one interest in this thread. What is my motive? I have none. I WISH to god your product worked as advertised. I have no incentive to tear down something valid. I bought the hell out of your Cissus for a while.

Your incentives and motives are crystal clear and now you're in attack mode.

All you do is highlight the point in making. Thanks, played right into it. Check and Mate, homie.

 

[xtgear]

I personally think that usp has a marketing very similar to MT, and some of the guys dislike this behaviour but it sells so every time they lunch a new product it looks like its the ultimate muscle builder...
One of the things I don't understand is how we see a lot of good prime reviews here and a lot of indifference or even bad reports on other boards

 

[tuberman]

B - im sure the product may work, but the write up on their website reaks of muscletech garbage.

Sure musletech works......but worth the price tag? Worth the insane amount of bs hype and lame graphs that mean absolutely nothing?

Not to me man. I respect your desire to use the product, but i disagree with USP labs methods of selling and product satisfaction. This isnt just about one product, its a whole line of twisted hype products which you spend your hard earned money on.

LAWYER
:rant:

 

[Frank Reynolds]

This board did used to be more critical and objective. Thats why i liked it. The BS didnt fly quite as easily as it did on other boards. Sadly, some of that has changed. Most people who know better dont feel the need to waste their breath trying to enlighten younger membership. I probably wont either in about 15 minutes.

How i see it, the focus has changed from TRAINING/diet/Gear/ theme to more of a focus on supplements.. It seemed to be allot more about bodybuilding/lifting, and now most things center around supplementation.

There seemed to be more "serious" lifters here. Plus allot of people that didn't rely on many supps other then the basics. There are still a good amount now, but % compared to total members seems less to me.

But there also were allot LESS supps then, and there has most def been some advancements.

Not saying this is any better, or worse, just my take on it.

 

[Guest]

Sorry I'm not promoting your product. You have one interest in this thread. What is my motive? I have none. I WISH to god your product worked as advertised. I have no incentive to tear down something valid. I bought the hell out of your Cissus for a while.

Your incentives and motives are crystal clear and now you're in attack mode.

All you do is highlight the point in making. Thanks, played right into it.

Point out an innovative product in the supplement industry that has research and MOA(that is not made up theory).

You want research to purchase a product but the truth is very little of it exists and when it does it's an animal model and in a diseased stated. The true validation of a products effectiveness is from Real world feedback whether you like it or not. Your "Alpine" standard does not exist.

Just using your words with Cissus (since you use it based solely on forum feedback or dipshit feedback). Cissus has 0 scientific evidence that it works for tendon and ligament health besides anecdotal feedback...so there goes your anthem of "I need science or I will not buy bs." The fact of the matter cissus is was tested by a group of rock climbers with tendonitis, or the superior Alpine would call them dipshits. Then the testing extended to "forum" testing that received exceptional feedback from our forum peers, but alpine would call these testers dipshits.

Just like Cissus the consumer will have to rely on their forum peers for feedback with USPlabs PRIME or as the superior minded alpine would call dipshits..

Your hypocrisy is so thick it can be cut with a knife.

 

[Guest]

...
One of the things I don't understand is how we see a lot of good prime reviews here and a lot of indifference or even bad reports on other boards

what other boards? Point us to the indifferent reveiws.

Because the majority of the rave reviews are from bb.com..

 

[joeymutz]

Bullshit, 11-oxo is all theory.


Calling another person a dipshit on the faceless internet makes you a dipshit...just thought i let you know that.

I've had great results with 11-oxo and i don't know anyone that hasn't had any results. Can you please elaborate on why it is all Theory?

 

[Alpine]

Just using your words with Cissus (since you use it based solely on forum feedback or dipshit feedback). Cissus has 0 scientific evidence that it works for tendon and ligament health besides anecdotal feedback...
Just like Cissus the consumer will have to rely on their forum peers for feedback with USPlabs PRIME or as the superior minded alpine would call dipshits..

Your hypocrisy is so thick it can be cut with a knife.

I was simply saying I have tried products out based on overwhelming hype. It never usually works out and as Ive grown older and wised up I do it less and less. I was also pointing out that I once purchased your products and thought USP seemed new and innovative. I don't have some strange vendetta against your company. I didn't want to dump on anymore of your stuff but if you want to make a point of it I guess I should have mentioned I quickly stopped taking Cissus when I realized no tangible benefits whatsoever. If you keep digging you're just going to get more posts you dont want to see in your precious marketing thread.

The reality is that you know (but don't want to admit for obvious reasons) that for most people here, a ribeye and some asparagus will do more for tomorrows workout than your recycled Tribulus product.

 

[Mulletsoldier]

There is a thread where users can readily express their negative opinions on myself, PRIME, Jacob, and the company - even anonymously! That being said, why don't we keep this thread as intended: For anecdotal feedback?

The attacks from MashedPotatoe and so on are irrelevant to the intended discourse of this thread; however, they can readily be expressed elsewhere. Some of those in this thread are clamoring for tangible results, and yet inhibiting that very process. If I was a potential reviewer, I would most definitely hesitate at creating a PRIME thread, seeing as each one seems to be overrun with negativity; negativity, mind you, which is directed at; a) marketing; b) myself; c) Jacob; d) USP 'Business Ethics - in other words, nothing to do with the product itself.

If objective proof is needed, facilitate that process; take the juvenile personal attacks and hostility to other threads, and allow some data - anecdotal as it may be - to come to fruition.

 

[Ubiyca]

"There is a thread where users can readily express their negative opinions on myself, PRIME, Jacob, and the company - even anonymously! That being said, why don't we keep this thread as intended: For anecdotal feedback?"

I can't blame you for wanting to wrap this up. This Jacob guy really is making himself (and therefore) his company look bad. Frankly with the way he's conducting himself here I doubt anyone is impressed. Very unprofessional but it's more the acting like a total and utter **** that really is kind of shocking.

 

[Mulletsoldier]

"There is a thread where users can readily express their negative opinions on myself, PRIME, Jacob, and the company - even anonymously! That being said, why don't we keep this thread as intended: For anecdotal feedback?"

I can't blame you for wanting to wrap this up. This Jacob guy really is making himself (and therefore) his company look bad. Frankly with the way he's conducting himself here I doubt anyone is impressed. Very unprofessional but it's more the acting like a total and utter **** that really is kind of shocking.

It can become difficult to remain professional when your personal pursuit and passion is being attacked; every company owner on this board can relate to that. Discussions become heated and professionalism can take a backseat to passion. I am most definitely guilty of this myself from time to time.

Understand that this is Jacob's place of work, and mine (or at least one aspect therein). If an individual came to your place of employment, and began insulting and attacking both your work and YOU as a person, how professional would you remain, honestly? How professional have some of the propositions and negative statements in this thread been? Not very - he who casts the first stone and all that.

At any rate, I would just like to see 'PRIME-hate' contained to 'PRIME-hate' threads, so potential reviewers will be less hesitant to share their results.

 

[Gtarzan81]

"There is a thread where users can readily express their negative opinions on myself, PRIME, Jacob, and the company - even anonymously! That being said, why don't we keep this thread as intended: For anecdotal feedback?"

I can't blame you for wanting to wrap this up. This Jacob guy really is making himself (and therefore) his company look bad. Frankly with the way he's conducting himself here I doubt anyone is impressed. Very unprofessional but it's more the acting like a total and utter **** that really is kind of shocking.

:goodpost:
The ad hominem attacks by Jacob are wearing thin.
An attack on a USP product is returned with an attack on the poster. This includes calling people a "dipsh!t", and "Hypocrite."


Enough of this.:hammer:

 

[Guest]

:goodpost:
The ad hominem attacks by Jacob are wearing thin.
An attack on a USP product is returned with an attack on the poster. This includes calling people a "dipsh!t", and "Hypocrite."


Enough of this.:hammer:

You should read the thread before commenting.

Actually Alpine referred to other members as dipshits, and faceless attacks on other members is cowardly but that is just my opinion.

 

[Gtarzan81]

In that case your opinion is worthless and doesn't change the fact you are a dipshit.

Umm..I have been reading the thread.
Still sure you didnt call a guy a dipshizzle?

 

[kabuki]

By the way, less dip sh1t testimonials and more studies showing this will do anything for muscle gain... hell, i'll even take rats. Those 3 references demonstrate nothing and likely make up the current body of literature for these "cutting edge" compounds.

I do not think of my self as a dip sh1t, but if that is how you want to view me that is your choice.

I agree with Mullet. There is the hate threads...why not keep this in there.

 

[jazzman21]

It can become difficult to remain professional when your personal pursuit and passion is being attacked; every company owner on this board can relate to that. Discussions become heated and professionalism can take a backseat to passion. I am most definitely guilty of this myself from time to time.

Understand that this is Jacob's place of work, and mine (or at least one aspect therein). If an individual came to your place of employment, and began insulting and attacking both your work and YOU as a person, how professional would you remain, honestly? How professional have some of the propositions and negative statements in this thread been? Not very - he who casts the first stone and all that.

At any rate, I would just like to see 'PRIME-hate' contained to 'PRIME-hate' threads, so potential reviewers will be less hesitant to share their results.

WELL said.

 

[flex13]

I dunno y these dudes keep posting and talking about prime when they havent even given it a run yet. If u dont life a rep or company thats fine by y bash a product before u even use it to see if it actually works or not. I have three bottles of prime and will be running them in the next week or two, until then i havent said anything about the product, such as if it works or not!!!

 

[Gtarzan81]

It can become difficult to remain professional when your personal pursuit and passion is being attacked; every company owner on this board can relate to that. Discussions become heated and professionalism can take a backseat to passion. I am most definitely guilty of this myself from time to time.

Understand that this is Jacob's place of work, and mine (or at least one aspect therein). If an individual came to your place of employment, and began insulting and attacking both your work and YOU as a person, how professional would you remain, honestly? How professional have some of the propositions and negative statements in this thread been? Not very - he who casts the first stone and all that.

At any rate, I would just like to see 'PRIME-hate' contained to 'PRIME-hate' threads, so potential reviewers will be less hesitant to share their results.

I, for one, DO NOT apologize for expecting more professionalism from the involved parties.

There are several company owners/co-owners on this board. A few can be wise arses at times, but are very professional in conducting business here.

My suggestion would be to step it up a notch, and not bring things down to the lowest common denominator.

 

[Ubiyca]

I dunno y these dudes keep posting and talking about prime when they havent even given it a run yet. If u dont life a rep or company thats fine by y bash a product before u even use it to see if it actually works or not. I have three bottles of prime and will be running them in the next week or two, until then i havent said anything about the product, such as if it works or not!!!

Yeah, good idea.. let's not talk about any products until we've tried them. I mean ****, why even bother looking at the ingredient profile and researching that at all right? Because supplement companies are our BROS and love us very much and would never ever persuade us in anyway or advertise falsely including making exaggerated claims and such things. :woohoo:

 

[B5150]

How i see it, the focus has changed from TRAINING/diet/Gear/ theme to more of a focus on supplements.. It seemed to be allot more about bodybuilding/lifting, and now most things center around supplementation.

There seemed to be more "serious" lifters here. Plus allot of people that didn't rely on many supps other then the basics. There are still a good amount now, but % compared to total members seems less to me.

But there also were allot LESS supps then, and there has most def been some advancements.

Not saying this is any better, or worse, just my take on it.

You make a very accurate and discerning observation.

This board WAS a transdermal formula/recipe and steroid conversion board a long time ago. I don't think it was less training but it was less supplementation because it was a transdermal and steroid conversion board.

Guys who are willing to invest the time and resources in transdermal ingredients and recipes or scientific molecule extractions tend to already have the prerequisite of being serious about their training and diet covered.

Yes, this board is more focused on supplements because it IS a supplement board. The board it is now is light years ahead of the one it used to be in profitability and marketing and advertisement exposure. Remember that this board and all others are a business venture not a hobby or a club. It is business.

It is indeed a supplement board that is a leader in the industry. We have 30 sponsor forums and a retail store that is one the fastest growing private companies in the US

http://anabolicminds.com/forum/nutraplanet/102563-hot-off-press.html

 

[Frank Reynolds]

You make a very accurate and discerning observation.

This board WAS a transdermal formula/recipe and steroid conversion board a long time ago. I don't think it was less training but it was less supplementation because it was a transdermal and steroid conversion board.

Guys who are willing to invest the time and resources in transdermal ingredients and recipes or scientific molecule extractions tend to already have the prerequisite of being serious about their training and diet covered.

Yes, this board is more focused on supplements because it IS a supplement board. The board it is now is light years ahead of the one it used to be in profitability and marketing and advertisement exposure. Remember that this board and all others are a business venture not a hobby or a club. It is business.

It is indeed a supplement board that is a leader in the industry. We have 30 sponsor forums and a retail store that is one the fastest growing private companies in the US

http://anabolicminds.com/forum/nutraplanet/102563-hot-off-press.html

I totally understand.. I will say for the rapid growth, it has still managed to uphold a great standard. Some boards totally go to ****, when they start to get larger, and more profit orientated.

Good work!

 

[flex13]

Yeah, good idea.. let's not talk about any products until we've tried them. I mean ****, why even bother looking at the ingredient profile and researching that at all right? Because supplement companies are our BROS and love us very much and would never ever persuade us in anyway or advertise falsely including making exaggerated claims and such things. :woohoo:

I never said dont read the ingredients bro! I understand what ur saying but if u dont wanna try or like a particular product then dont try it and simply say i dont think its gonna do much...Why all the bashing on a product that many of these guys havent tried??

 

[B5150]

No im pretty sure after seeing some of the testimonials that they are dip shits. Call it like i seem um...

I figured this would happen sooner or later. Even B5 is chiming in with Adaptogens. Ya, thanks for your contribution. Who wants to pay $40 for some ginseng? PM ME...

I think im done here. This is exactly what I'm talking about. Questioning a hot new product doesn't seem to go over too well.
That's a problem as I see it. I'll try and restrain myself from posting outside the nutraplanet threads from now on.

You may be misunderstanding my statement. I suggested that most don't understand what an adaptogen is. Most here don't know their ass from their elbow. Most here are living in their moms house working out with concrete weights that their dad quit using in his Prime (sorry - pun was unavoidable) in the 80's.

Is an 'adaptogen' going to provide the results that those testimonies illustrated. Absolutely not. I promise you I will not gain 30lbs of muscle and lose 18lb of fat with Prime. I promise you I could use all of the USPLabs products that I have in my cupboard and 12 bottles of Prime and that will not happen. Period.

Is the marketing over the top. Sure. That's Jacobs issue. He's a big boy and seems to be fine living with the impression that people get of him and his products. The impression I have had from his products thusfar is that they meet my reasonable expectations.

I have had great success with AP, but I cannot eat 100's of grams more of carbs than before. It does do what I, as a reasonable consumer, reasonably desired for it to do for me...P-Slin as well.

Supper Cissus benefits are subtle and at the cost of the powder it is 30-40% the cost of the competition that may or may not be equally comparable or even slightly better.

PowerFULL delivered to me what I wanted. It stimulated my LH, increased testicle size and ejaculate volume as well as provided a greater sense of well being and increased erectile volume.

PureDopa improves my skin complexion (nail growth) and restful sleep.

None of the results are astronomical. None of my expectations were or are. But the product delivered my reasonable expectations.

Is Prime likely to deliver something in the realm of my reasonable expectations. I believe it will.

Do I expect or believe for a minute that it will deliver as advertised or marketed...not for a second. But I am not taking the time or effort to attack Jacobs or Mullets integrity because of their marketing strategy. I don't believe anyone's marketing. It's marketing!!!

 

[DreamWeaver]

You may be misunderstanding my statement. I suggested that most don't understand what an adaptogen is. Most here don't know their ass from their elbow. Most here are living in their moms house working out with concrete weights that their dad quit using in his Prime (sorry - pun was unavoidable) in the 80's.

Is an 'adaptogen' going to provide the results that those testimonies illustrated. Absolutely not. I promise you I will not gain 30lbs of muscle and lose 18lb of fat with Prime. I promise you I could use all of the USPLabs products that I have in my cupboard and 12 bottles of Prime and that will not happen. Period.

Is the marketing over the top. Sure. That's Jacobs issue. He's a big boy and seems to be fine living with the impression that people get of him and his products. The impression I have had from his products thusfar is that they meet my reasonable expectations.

I have had great success with AP, but I cannot eat 100's of grams more of carbs than before. It does do what I, as a reasonable consumer, reasonably desired for it to do for me...P-Slin as well.

Supper Cissus benefits are subtle and at the cost of the powder it is 30-40% the cost of the competition that may or may not be equally comparable or even slightly better.

PowerFULL delivered to me what I wanted. It stimulated my LH, increased testicle size and ejaculate volume as well as provided a greater sense of well being and increased erectile volume.

PureDopa improves my skin complexion (nail growth) and restful sleep.

None of the results are astronomical. None of my expectations were or are. But the product delivered my reasonable expectations.

Is Prime likely to deliver something in the realm of my reasonable expectations. I believe it will.

Do I expect or believe for a minute that it will deliver as advertised or marketed...not for a second. But I am not taking the time or effort to attack Jacobs or Mullets integrity because of their marketing strategy. I don't believe anyone's marketing. It's marketing!!!

That was well said.

 

[Guest]

I've had great results with 11-oxo and i don't know anyone that hasn't had any results. Can you please elaborate on why it is all Theory?

Not saying the supplement does not work but the MOA is theory and not proven.

 

[Guest]

I, for one, DO NOT apologize for expecting more professionalism from the involved parties.

There are several company owners/co-owners on this board. A few can be wise arses at times, but are very professional in conducting business here.

My suggestion would be to step it up a notch, and not bring things down to the lowest common denominator.

I'm the utmost professional and many will attest to it. I will go beyond the call of duty to help with advice or product.

You may let others spit in your face and walk away, but when provoked with defamation and you push, I hit back. As I would do in person, If this individual (mashed potato) that is purposely trying to defame my character and business should "MAN UP" and step out of the shadows.

I'm transparent on the internet and my intentions are clear. If you have an "agenda" with USPlabs step out of the shadows and become transparent when you spew your accusations. If not, I call you a coward.

If you call this unprofessional behavior so be it but I call it self respect.

To those defaming others on the internet by calling them dipshits, I challenge you to come out of the shadows and leave the internet bravery to the 14 year olds. I'm sure you are 10 foot tall and bullet proof and can kick my ass. If you want to defame others, you should post a picture of yourself along with some credentials and then maybe your opinion will be respected.

Questioning a product is fine, but let the feedback surface before retorting to name calling.

 

[nunes]

one thing is certain (and congratulations to them because of that):
USP marketing tactics are nowadays the best of all the supp companies

 

[Mulletsoldier]

I, for one, DO NOT apologize for expecting more professionalism from the involved parties.

There are several company owners/co-owners on this board. A few can be wise arses at times, but are very professional in conducting business here.

My suggestion would be to step it up a notch, and not bring things down to the lowest common denominator.

I don't necessarily think I am bringing anything down to the LCD here. I am simply stating that any PRIME/Mullet/Jacob/USP hate should be directed to the appropriate threads. I just do not see the validity in calling for more objective user-data, and then clouding every thread which tries to manifest just that.

 

[Iron Lungz]

Not saying the supplement does not work but the MOA is theory and not proven.

But that can be said about alot of supplements, eh?

I truly think everyone, including myself, needs to put their E-Guns down and let time (which is the true indicator) prevail.

If it works, 6 months from now people will still be buying and using it (much like AP / POWERFULL).

Let's let this go... for now.

 

[b unit]

But that can be said about alot of supplements, eh?

I truly think everyone, including myself, needs to put their E-Guns down and let time (which is the true indicator) prevail.

If it works, 6 months from now people will still be buying and using it (much like AP / POWERFULL).

Let's let this go... for now.

good call,

time will reveal all

 

[Australian made]

But that can be said about alot of supplements, eh?

I truly think everyone, including myself, needs to put their E-Guns down and let time (which is the true indicator) prevail.

If it works, 6 months from now people will still be buying and using it (much like AP / POWERFULL).

Let's let this go... for now.

Exactly what iv'e been thinking. Although $55 is far too expensive, hopefully the price drops over the next few months.

 

[nunes]

Exactly what iv'e been thinking. Although $55 is far too expensive, hopefully the price drops over the next few months.

agreed , if usp want to be a good bros company to their customers they have to lower the price, the actual price is insane

 

[b unit]

Exactly what iv'e been thinking. Although $55 is far too expensive, hopefully the price drops over the next few months.

i thought you were loaded A.M?

£'s to burn :stick:

 

[poopypants]

But that can be said about alot of supplements, eh?

I truly think everyone, including myself, needs to put their E-Guns down and let time (which is the true indicator) prevail.

If it works, 6 months from now people will still be buying and using it (much like AP / POWERFULL).

Let's let this go... for now.

Paleeaaaasssseee let this rest, or at least be directed to the appropriate forum and thread as said before.

On a positive note, I just received and took my first dose of Prime.... will be scratchin together a rough log later and post up start pics.

 

[Guest]

agreed , if usp want to be a good bros company to their customers they have to lower the price, the actual price is insane

Price complaints are common, but we price according to cost of manufacturing cost and raw powder cost.

We lower our price. We do not make money. THe product is moving incredibly well becuase many will pay for innovation and results and some will not just the nature of the beast.

These are 54.99 results..

http://anabolicminds.com/forum/usp-labs/104201-haters-hating-again-2.html#post1548274

 

[Australian made]

i thought you were loaded A.M?

£'s to burn :stick:

dude their may not be any banks left to work in the way things r going this week.....

 

[Guest]

But that can be said about alot of supplements, eh?

.

My point exactly.

 

[b unit]

dude their may not be any banks left to work in the way things r going this week.....

i saw that on this morning's news, hope you ok bro

 

[poopypants]

things taking as big a dive down south as they are here???

 

[nunes]

dude their may not be any banks left to work in the way things r going this week.....

lol, better laugh not to cry...