anabolic diet and westside4skinny bastards with johnyq

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  1. Quote Originally Posted by johnyq View Post
    lol




    ok, so weight back down 3 pounds. 182.



    Moved my ME upper body day to tuesday (today), and saw most of my strength on bench return. It was a really good day in the gym for the most part.


    Tomorrow I will start counting calories @ 2800 a day. I hope to start seeing 2lbs a week drop off. I'm not really sure how to treat the weekends. I plan on carb loading 24 hours, and in that time just trying to stay reasonable (if I have pizza, only eat 2 slices and not 2 pies)...


    Here is my schedule:
    mon: ME lower body
    Tue: ME upper body
    Wed: "off"
    thur: DE lower body
    frid; RE upper body
    sat/sun: off


    I'm officially off all "supplements". I do have a bottle of drive/rpm left but I am not going to run them until I figure out this cutting phase first.

    Here is my standard health stack which I will continue taking:
    multivitamin (AOR ortho care or Milleniums stack)
    NAC,RALA,coq10,SAM-e,Fish oil,miracle greens,Whey
    tricreatine malate bulk, xtend.
    We have a very similar workout routine . The large fluctuation in weight you are experience from the carb up to friday will eventually become a very small fluctuation in weight as you become adapted. I remember I used to weigh 9 lbs less on Friday than I did on Sunday when I first started the diet! But now its usually a difference of about 2 lbs., and since I began carbing up on Wed. and Sat. I basically don't have any weight fluctuation whatsoever.


  2. Last week was kind of tough. I cheated on wednesday night and had a few beers. The food is easy for me, I don't get any cravings for carbs, but beer is my weakness. I'm considering shifting my schedule back 1 day, which would mean I start my carb load friday night and end it saturday night (that way I can have guilt free beer on friday night). Then I'll start my gym week on sunday. Maybe I won't cheat if I know I only have to wait until friday night. I'm an avid homebrewer, so its a major hobby for me.



    Didn't experience a carb coma this weekend. I did about 20 hours of carb loading.

    Weight on friday was 182lbs, (+0 since the start).


    Today will be the first day of actual calorie counting and reduction. I'll take botch's advice and not scale back too much until week 4 of the diet.
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  3. how's the diet going man? making progress?

  4. I've had the first -break- in the gym in a number of months, I missed half of last weeks workouts. Work has me majory stressed, in fact I was just checking out some cortisol supps from NP....


    Work is killing me, but I'm still mostly sticking to the diet. I've moved most my self medication to wine since its low carb, and I moved my carb days back to saturday so that it fits better with my life.


    I'm still keeping the AD faith however. I'd like to keep a better log about it but its been ****ty time, usually I love logging. I'm up and down about this diet, but it seems that is the norm for someone in the early stages. usually by wednesday I'm feeling great. Right now I feel like ****, just to be honest, and its not *just* the diet.


    I'll stick it out. Truly appreciate the reminder to update. In fact I would have updated today, but I was stuck at work....

  5. Working on Sunday eh? I don't think I would like that. Do you mind if I ask what you do?
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  6. government contractor, systems engineer. I don't usually work on sunday or more than more than 40hours. Just that time of year I guess.

    For some strange reason I'm just not handling the stress very well this time. Gotta work on that



    I'll be hitting the gym tonight, hopefully not too late.

  7. I feel much better today. Started taking relora and just changed my outlook.


    weight was 182. Workout was great.

  8. Good stuff man. How many lb of fat are you trying to drop? Or have you changed your goals?

  9. Quote Originally Posted by skunkman View Post
    Good stuff man. How many lb of fat are you trying to drop? Or have you changed your goals?
    As a guess, I probably have 15 pounds before I would be pretty shreded. Its still my goal to use this diet to cut down. I plan to cut my carb days to 12 hours or less starting this weekend. I hope to start seeing the weightloss after that. This past week was a mild setback, but I don't think it did too much harm.

  10. I feel the same way bro, I went to visit some old friends from college and did nothing but drink and eat like ****. Basically a 72hour carb refeed

    Ya so were going to really work on that from now on

  11. I have the most insane dreams on this diet. I wondered if it was just me, but a quick google search revealed it as a side effect of ketosis.


    Crazy.



    This week has been ok. I made all of my workouts despite long hours at work. I am going to alter my workouts to be higher VO2 max kind of thing. Maybe throw in burpies or something. Focus on fat burning for about a month, hopefully overcome my beer consumption that way

    last night was the first attempt at this change. For DE lower body day, I did 10 sets of box jumps, supersetted with sprint work. My chest was burning. Then I did a little bit of lower back and hamstring stuff.


    Thinking about scheduling my bloodwork. I wanted to see some weight loss before hand, but I better make sure I'm not fiving up my blood lipids.... I really hope this does what I expect, that is improved HDL and tri's, and maybe static LDL. We shall see...




    btw, weight, appearance, etc, has pretty much remained static since the diet started. I'll take a progress pic soon and see if anything has changed without me noticing.

  12. Last night I was down to 177lbs.

    Now that I am past the initial phase, and past work stress and too much beer, the diet seems to be working. Hopefully after carb up this weekend, my weight is still down a few pounds.

  13. got a little carried away with the diet/carbs this weekend all the way through last night.

    Got into the gym today and still weighed 177, so thats good news. Going to focus on the diet after that little break and see if the results start pouring in. My body is definitely adjusted, a few carbs here and there don't seem to kick me out of fat burning mode.


    Gym sessions have been going great. No loss of energy without the carbs, and my strength is up some. I really need to go get that blood lipids test soon, I'll try and make the appt tomorrow. If that comes out good I'm sold on this diet for the long term.

  14. thats great to hear johnyq! I'm glad you have made it past the initial assessment phase and are feeling good on the diet. A word about the beer drinking - I used to drink beer on the daily before I started this diet as well and now I feel so much better having a few beers here and there on the carb up and I don't feel counterproductive by doing it. I <3 beer!

  15. got my blood results back, and it wasn't great.


    around november of last year:
    total: 173
    HDL: 38
    LDL: 120
    tris: 77

    yesterday:
    total: 210
    HDL: 45
    LDL: 147
    tris: 88


    So at least my ratio of LDL: HDL improved, and I feel like my CVD risk might be lower (things that can't be seen by the test, like LDL particle size "likely" improved from what I have read).

    When I get home with the results in front of me, I'll add my glucose levels.

    At any rate, it was a good run, but no more steak and eggs every day. I'll probably just go with precision nutrition now, although I would consider doing a high vegetable fat CKD, instead of all of the eggs/steak/cheese.

  16. My levels look way better and i just got off a 20 week cycle, and I'm on AD.....

    Hmmm.....

  17. I should know mine soon. I have to get blood work done ASAP. I'll post my results here also.
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  18. Quote Originally Posted by CryingEmo View Post
    My levels look way better and i just got off a 20 week cycle, and I'm on AD.....

    Hmmm.....
    its all individual, since I wasn't losing weight, I wasn't surprised my cholesterol went up.


    If you are following the Atkins plan and are not dropping weight, pay close attention to lipid levels. Numerous studies have shown that in absence of weight loss, ketogenic diets may be detrimental to blood lipids levels while ketogenic diets that result in weight loss are good for blood lipid levels
    http://www.elitefts.com/documents/popular_diets.htm



    DW, definitely post here, I'm curious to know how it goes!

  19. good progress so far johnyq. your workout schedual is exactly like mine. im starting the anabolic diet on monday and will probobly add DCP in april. i had planned my carb load for monday and tuesday, since those are my ME Days. diet will be simple with lots of meat. only supps will be fish oil, CLA, R-ALA, pslin and possibly DCP. good luck with the rest of your diet.

  20. Quote Originally Posted by johnyq View Post
    got my blood results back, and it wasn't great.


    around november of last year:
    total: 173
    HDL: 38
    LDL: 120
    tris: 77

    yesterday:
    total: 210
    HDL: 45
    LDL: 147
    tris: 88


    So at least my ratio of LDL: HDL improved, and I feel like my CVD risk might be lower (things that can't be seen by the test, like LDL particle size "likely" improved from what I have read).

    When I get home with the results in front of me, I'll add my glucose levels.

    At any rate, it was a good run, but no more steak and eggs every day. I'll probably just go with precision nutrition now, although I would consider doing a high vegetable fat CKD, instead of all of the eggs/steak/cheese.
    From looking at an old sample diet you posted, I agree that if you were to stick with the diet and lower your red meat and cheese intake and up your vegetable fats you would probably see improvements. Maybe steak only once a week is something that would work best for you. At any rate, its good to have these tests done to see if you have any peculiarities. Thanks for posting the blood results!

  21. Just got back from the doctor's and I have to wait until after April 1 for my insurance to cover it.
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