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    I need to get in shape! I'm starting this log to track my progress, share it with the forum, and get feedback. Official start date: Sunday 9/2/2007

    Purpose: To become a lean, mean, muscle machine - I want LBM, and lots of it!

    Stats on Sunday morning 9/2/2007 on empty
    Age: 36
    Weight: 170 lbs
    Shoulders: 48 1/2"
    Chest: 41 1/2"
    Waist: 34" (my pants must have stretched since I wear 33")
    Wheels: 22 1/4", 15 1/2"
    Calves: 15 1/2"
    Guns: 14"
    Forearms: 11 1/2"

    Begin updates. Stats taken in the morning on empty
    * End of Week 1: Sunday 9/09/2007: 170 lbs
    * End of Week 2: Sunday 9/16/2007: 171 lbs (+1 from start, +1 from last week)
    * End of Week 3: Sunday 9/23/2007: 170 lbs (+0 from start, -1 from last week)
    * End of Week 4: Sunday 9/30/2007: 180 lbs (the previous values are skewed since my scale is busted)
    * End of Week 5: Sunday 10/07/2007: MIA (still no scale)
    * End of Week 6: Sunday 10/14/2007: MIA (still no scale)
    * End of Week 7: Sunday 10/21/2007: 176 lbs (used scale at gym)
    * End of Week 8: Sunday 10/28/2007: MIA (still no scale)
    * End of Week 9: Sunday 11/04/2007: 172 lbs (used scale at gym)
    * End of Week 10: Sunday 11/11/2007: 175 lbs (used scale at gym)
    * End of Week 11: Sunday 11/18/2007: MIA
    * End of Week 12: Sunday 11/25/2007: MIA
    * End of Week 13: Sunday 12/02/2007: 176 lbs (used scale at gym)
    * End of Week 14: Sunday 12/09/2007: MIA
    * End of Week 15: Sunday 12/16/2007: MIA
    * End of Week 16: Sunday 12/23/2007: MIA
    * End of Week 17: Sunday 12/30/2007: MIA
    * End of Week 18: Sunday 1/06/2008: 176 lbs (used scale at gym)
    * End of Week 19: Sunday 1/13/2008: MIA.

    I decided to start using dermal Formastane: 5g dissolved in one bottle of Penetrate. I started on Sunday 1/13/2008. I am using between 6 to 8 pumps twice a day. Sometimes the first or second pump don't have any Form even if I shake the bottle.
    * End of Week 20: Sunday 1/20/2008: 172 lbs (-4 from previous week). <<< I will use this as a baseline since the previous 19 weeks were somewhat skewed.
    * End of Week 21: Sunday 1/27/2008: 173 lbs (+1 from previous week).

    * End of Week 22: Sunday 2/03/2008: MIA. Had an accident at the gym during the week. Messed up my routine. Stopped using Form since I can't get an upper body workout for a few weeks.
    * End of Week 23: Sunday 2/10/2008: MIA.
    * End of Week 24: Sunday 2/17/2008: MIA.
    * End of Week 25: Sunday 2/24/2008: MIA.
    * End of Week 26: Sunday 3/02/2008: 172 lbs (used scale at gym) I'm not happy with my results thus far. Workouts are good but still can't manage to get my 6 meals a day. Time to make some changes. Stay tuned.

    End updates


    Here is my plan:
    Meal plan: I will be eating six meals a day. I calculated the daily caloric intake required based on conventional formulas for someone with a desk job, then added the required calories for the workout plan and muscle growth. I need to learn how my body adjusts. Also, I exercise after work so I would have eaten 4 meals prior to going to the gym.
    Workout plan:
    Phase 1: I'm going to ease my way back into the discipline of bodybuilding. I'm starting with a basic whole body workout three times a week for three weeks, followed by one week of stretching and recovery.
    Phase 2: I have BOBO's deluxe muscle building program. I signed up with him a while back and got great results. However, I failed to keep it up. This is an 8 week program.
    Phase 3: Don't know yet. I'll figure something out prior to the end of Phase 2.

    Phase 1 details: I got this from a HFL book I bought many years ago. The items below contain what I need to eat at my current weight. The actual caloric intake will be adjusted throughout the program. The workouts below may seem excessive, however the effort will be minimal since the program does not require maximum lifts, is supposed to be designed to pre-exhaust certain muscles, and to force me to use proper form.

    Week 1: Workout 3x week (Sun, Tue, Thu). I will be eating about 3232 calories a day:
    * Abs
    * 3 supersets: leg extensions and hamstring curls
    * 3 supersets: bench press and close-grip pull-down
    * 2 sets: hyperextensions
    * 2 sets: shoulder raises (21's)
    * 3 supersets: preacher bench curls (BB) and tricep press-down

    Week 2: Workout 3x week (Sun, Tue, Thu). I will be eating about 3267 calories a day:
    * Abs
    * 3 supersets: leg extensions and hamstring curls
    * 3 supersets: hack squats and side leg raises
    * 2 sets: hyperextensions
    * 3 supersets: bench press and close-grip pull-down
    * 2 sets: shoulder raises (21's)
    * 2 sets: military press
    * 3 supersets: preacher bench curls (BB) and lying French press

    Week 3: Workout 3x week (Sun, Tue, Thu). I will be eating about 3323 calories a day:
    * Abs
    * 3 supersets: squats and hack squats
    * 4 supersets: leg extensions and hamstring curls
    * 3 supersets: bench press and decline rows
    * 3 supersets: pec flys and close-grip pull-ups
    * 2 supersets: upright rows, military press, and rear delt flys
    * 3 supersets: standing barbel curl and French press
    * 3 supersets: seated incline dumbell curls and tricep kick-backs
    * 2 supersets: good mornings and hyperextensions

    Week 4: Workout 4x week (Sun, Tue, Thu, Sat). I will be eating about 3080 calories a day:
    * I will be out of town on vacation and may not have access to a gym. Depending on how I feel, I may do some light lifts or focus on stretching exercises.
    * I'm also using this week to assess how my body reacted to the previous 3 weeks and to prepare for the 8 week BOBO plan.
    * I may adjust the daily caloric intake depending on how much I weigh at the end of week 3.

    Edit: I started working out during lunch with my workout buddy on 10/15/2007. We're doing a four-day split as follows:
    * Monday: Legs & Abs
    * Tuesday: Chest
    * Wednesday: Back
    * Thursday: Arms & Abs
    Sometimes I do a light workout on Saturday which consist of no-weight squats, leg raises, pushups, and wide-grip pull-ups. It gets me through the weekend.

    I took these pics on July 15th 2007. Not much has changed since then, so consider these the "before" pics. I will update my log on a weekly basis and may post pictures once a month. Wish me luck!

    Edit: I was adding the date as text to the pic and now I'm unable to upload it again.

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    Round 2! Sunday 3/09/2008

    It has been 6 months since I started this log and so far I have not gained much weight. Then I busted my finger and have lost a good 5 weeks of progress. Time to try again.
    I am going to keep things a bit simpler this time - I'm going to use the Scivation Lean Mass Diet program and progressively increase my daily caloric intake. My main problem has been eating 6 meals a day, so I'm going to start with the lowest caloric intake on the plan to get me used to eating.

    Stats are almost the same as when I started, I'll get measurements and update again:
    Age: 36
    Weight: 172 lbs
    Shoulders:
    Chest:
    Waist:
    Wheels:
    Calves:
    Guns:
    Forearms:


    Begin updates. Stats taken in the morning on empty
    * End of Week 27 (3/09/2008 to 3/15/2008 on 2000 cals ed + pre-cycle supps): Sunday 3/16/2008: 172 lbs.
    * End of Week 28 (3/16/2008 to 3/22/2008 on 2000 cals ed + pre-cycle supps): Sunday 3/23/2008: 172 lbs.
    CEL H-Drol cycle begins @ 50mg ED
    I've modified my training program as follows:
    * Sunday: Off
    * Monday: Legs (includes 20 rep squat)
    * Tuesday: Push (may split into morning chest and evening tris)
    * Wednesday: Pull (may split into morning back and evening bis)
    * Thursday: Legs (includes 20 rep squat)
    * Friday: Push Push (may split into morning chest and evening tris)
    * Saturday: Pull (may split into morning back and evening bis)

    * End of Week 29 (3/23/2008 to 3/29/2008 on ? cals ed): Sunday 3/30/2008: 172 lbs. Time to increase daily calories by 500.
    ** Workouts not as planned: Monday Chest, Tuesday Legs, Wednesday Back and Bi, Thursday Shoulder & Tri, Friday Chest, Saturday Legs, Back, and Bi.
    * End of Week 30 (3/30/2008 to 4/05/2008 on ? cals ed): Sunday 4/06/2008: ? Scales at gym were busted. I'll weigh in during the week.
    ** Workouts not as planned: Monday Chest, Tuesday Legs, Wednesday Back and Bi, Thursday Shoulder & Tri, Friday off, Saturday Legs.
    Xtreme Tren cycle begins @ 60mg ED
    * End of Week 31 (4/06/2008 to 4/12/2008 on ? cals ed): Sunday 4/13/2008: 174 lbs.
    ** Workouts not as planned: Monday Legs, Tuesday off, Wednesday Back and Tri, Thursday Shoulder & Bi, Friday light chest, Saturday Legs, Back, Traps, and Bi.
    CEL H-Drol cycle increased to 75mg ED, last day @ 100mg
    * End of Week 32 (4/13/2008 to 4/19/2008 on ? cals ed): Sunday 4/20/2008: 176 lbs.
    ** Workouts not as planned: Tuesday and Sunday whole body workout; took the rest of the week off from the gym.
    CEL H-Drol cycle ends
    Xtreme Tren cycle increased to 90mg ED
    * End of Week 33 (4/20/2008 to 4/26/2008 on ? cals ed): Sunday 4/27/2008: 178 lbs.
    ** Workouts not as planned: Sunday whole body workout, Monday chest, Saturday whole body workout; took the rest of the week off from the gym.
    * End of Week 34 (4/27/2008 to 5/03/2008 on ? cals ed): Sunday 5/04/2008: 179 lbs.
    ** Workouts not as planned: Sunday back, bicep, tricep, Monday chest; took the rest of the week off from the gym but did some close and wide grip pull-ups. I have also decided to end my cycle a week earlier. I seem to react to the Xtreme Tren better, but started noticing higher blood pressure. I lowered the dose back to 60mg ED early in the week.
    Xtreme Tren cycle ends
    PCT begins
    * End of Week 35 (5/04/2008 to 5/10/2008 on ? cals ed): Sunday 5/11/2008: ?
    ** Workouts not as planned - went on vacation: Sunday whole body workout; Monday legs; Tuesday chest; Wednesday back; took the rest of the week off for weekend trip.
    * End of Week 36 (5/11/2008 to 5/17/2008 on ? cals ed): Sunday 5/18/2008: 177 lbs. Down 2 lbs; not looking as swole, probably water...
    ** Workouts not as planned - rest of vacation: Wednesday back; Thursday shoulders and arms.
    * End of Week 37 (5/18/2008 to 5/24/2008 on ? cals ed): Sunday 5/25/2008: 175 lbs. Down another 2 lbs; looking tighter and losing some flab since I've increased cardio frequency. Must be careful not to overdo it or I'll drop down to where I started.
    ** Workouts back to normal, started to sprinkle in some cardio: Sunday morning 15min HIT + 30min med cardio; Monday morning 10min cardio, evening P90X Plyometrics; Tuesday chest; Wednesday morning 15min cardio, noon back; Thursday shoulders and arms; Friday chest.
    * End of Week 38 (5/25/2008 to 5/31/2008 on ? cals ed): Sunday 6/01/2008: 175 lbs. No changes in weight. I know I would have kept more muscle weight if my bulk diet were in check... Summer is almost here and I really want a 6 pack, so I'm going to change gears and give the CKD a try. I am taking a week to setup and transition between what I do now and CKD.
    PCT ends
    * End of Week 39 (6/01/2008 to 6/07/2008 on ? cals ed): Sunday 6/08/2008: 171 lbs. Started no-carb plan on Wednesday to assess tolerance to CKD. Lost 4 lbs. I am back a little lighter than when I started, but no worries I want my 6-pack for summer. I've never had one and I want one Formal CKD begins today, Sunday 6/8/2008.
    CKD begins. Workout plan:
    *** Sun: Legs
    *** Mon: Back, Chest, Abs
    *** Tue: Shoulders, Arms
    *** Wed: Rest or cardio
    *** Thu: Legs
    *** Fri: Upper body
    *** Sat: Rest

    * End of Week 40 (6/08/2008 to 6/14/2008: Planned DCI 2125, 122g protein, 182g fat): Sunday 6/15/2008: ?
    ** Weight on Friday morning on empty (6/13/2008): 167 lbs Warning: this was the first all-out no-carb week and some of the fat started to gross me out, which caused me to eat about 1500 cals 3 days of the week. The 2125 DCI is already 500 cal below maintenance, so I was about 1100 below maintenance on 3 days. I'm sure this is the reason why I went down to 167 lbs. by Friday morning.
    * End of Week 41 (6/15/2008 to 6/21/2008: Planned DCI 2125, 122g protein, 182g fat): Sunday 6/22/2008: ?
    * End of Week 42 (6/22/2008 to 6/28/2008: Planned DCI 2125, 122g protein, 182g fat): Sunday 6/29/2008: 171 lbs.
    Xtreme Tren cycle begins @ 60mg ED
    * End of Week 43 (6/29/2008 to 7/05/2008: Planned DCI 2125, 122g protein, 182g fat): Sunday 7/06/2008: ?
    * End of Week 44 (7/06/2008 to 7/12/2008: Planned DCI 2125, 122g protein, 182g fat): Sunday 7/13/2008: ?
    * End of Week 45 (7/13/2008 to 7/19/2008: Planned DCI 2125, 122g protein, 182g fat): Sunday 7/20/2008: ?
    * End of Week 46 (7/20/2008 to 7/26/2008: Planned DCI 2125, 122g protein, 182g fat): Sunday 7/27/2008: ?
    * End of Week 47 (7/27/2008 to 8/02/2008: Planned DCI 2125, 122g protein, 182g fat): Sunday 8/03/2008: ?
    * End of Week 48 (8/03/2008 to 8/09/2008: Planned DCI 2125, 122g protein, 182g fat): Sunday 8/10/2008: ?
    Xtreme Tren cycle ends
    End updates
    Last edited by silverSurfer; 06-29-2008 at 09:33 AM. Reason: Adding more updates again

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    Good to see you back and posting.

    Are you considering switching up on the bench angle for your presses/flys as well as the grip position on pull downs/ups?
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    Quote Originally Posted by jonny21 View Post
    Good to see you back and posting.

    Are you considering switching up on the bench angle for your presses/flys as well as the grip position on pull downs/ups?
    Hi jonny21, the first three weeks are super basic so the bench press is the conventional 90 degree (flat) press. However, the BOBO plan includes plenty of variation.

    Thanks for the encouragement.
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    good luck, ss!

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    I had to get some supplements to help my digestive system. The last two days have been absolutely disgusting with all the rancid gas. However, I had lots of energy during my workout last night.

    Update: I went to the near by Wholefoods Market and got a box of these: Jarro-Dophilus EPS™ Travel Size
    I took one capsule last night, one 30 minutes before breakfast, and one before my fourth meal. I also eliminated milk from the first four meals of the day and I feel SO MUCH BETTER! No bloating and the gas is basically gone - I did have some today but not out of the ordinary and it did not smell, which was nice
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    End of week 1: Stats taken Sunday morning 9/9/2007 on empty
    Weight: 170 lbs

    No change in weight but I'm noticing some recomposition. I'm working my way up to eating 6 times a day. So far I've managed to eat 5 times a day.
    I'm also modifying my diet and replacing current carbs with brown rice - apparently rice does not create gas like other carbs, so it should help with my digestive issues.
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    End of week 2: Stats taken Sunday morning 9/16/2007 on empty
    Weight: 171 lbs

    The rice substitution definitely worked. I still have mild gas, but I suspect it is due to the increase in protein. It starts happening in the evening so I'm not worried about it because I'm home by then.
    Still at 5 meals a day, will do my best to increase to 6 meals a day. Also, I'm going to split the original workout plan for Week 3; I don't think I can do all that without overtraining.
    Last edited by silverSurfer; 09-30-2007 at 11:57 AM. Reason: wrong week
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    End of week 3: Stats taken Sunday morning 9/23/2007 on empty
    Weight: 170 lbs

    Still at 5 meals a day and slowly increasing caloric intake. I split the Week 3 workout plan into upper and lower, and worked out 4 times (2 upper 2 lower).
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    End of week 4: Stats taken Sunday morning 9/30/2007 on empty
    Weight: 180 lbs

    I was out on vacation all week. I went to the hotel gym 3 times: 2 for light upper body workout, 1 for cardio on the machine. I also went running 3 consecutive mornings.

    The hotel room had a cool digital scale so I decided to take my weight and it registered 182.5 lbs... I thought "no way!" So I decided to go downstairs to the gym and use the mechanical scale and it registered the same... well, needless to say the scale I have at home is busted. I weighed myself again before I left and I'm right about 180 lbs. I'm very happy because I thought I'd been stuck at 170 lbs for the longest time, but I've actually gained weight (althought not all muscle). I'm happy since it puts me closer to my 200 lbs goal. My diet was basically crap, so I hope the running and the few workouts helped balance things out. I still have flab on my midsection but I'm noticing some recomposition. I'll see if I can post update pictures today - the tan makes things a little more noticeable.
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    End of week 7: Stats taken Sunday morning 10/21/2007 on empty
    Weight: 176 lbs

    I've lost some weight. I think it is coming off my midsection because my chest, back, shoulders, and thighs look a bit fuller. Time to recalculate intake - I'm probably not eating enough.
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    End of week 9: Stats taken Sunday morning 11/4/2007 on empty
    Weight: MIA
    Edit: got on the scale at the gym today 11/5/2007 and it registered 175 lbs. I subtract 3 lbs for food since I had two meals in me so I should be around 172 lbs.

    I have not bought a scale yet - I really need to get one today. I think the best thing I've done thus far is pairing up with a guy from work. We've been going to the gym 4 x week and I can honestly say that having a workout partner is awesome. We have similar goals, work out during lunch, and eat the first meals of the day together. Having someone push you to the limit and spot you is awesome!
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    Talking I've been challenged!


    So my workout partner said he was determined to get his 6-pack by next July, which I think is great. However he also started talking smack and said that I would not be able to do the same. I said I could get a 6-pack in three months. Me having a brain fart said I would have my 6-pack by this day in January - that's actually two months, not three! Then he went on to say that the way to test my 6-pack, other than the obvious, would be for me to sit down and have no flab sticking out of the sides of my pants - he upped the requirement and said it would have to be like "Men's Fitness" cover worthy - I was like "whatever!"

    Anyway, I'm going to start sprinkling cardio in the morning on an empty stomach, monitoring my food more closely, and tracking my numbers more accurately. I'm going to beat him to the 6-pack! :bb2:
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    20 minute workout done from 5:20am - 5:40am.
    In-place jumping stuff like jumping jacks, knee-ups, etc. immediately followed by one serving of Xtend and one scoop of CarbSlam. Time to eat food now...
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    20 minute workout done from 5:18am - 5:38am.
    In-place jumping stuff like running in-place, jumping jacks, knee-ups, etc. immediately followed by one serving of Oryx Goat Whey (30g protein).
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    20 minute workout done from 5:27am - 5:47am.
    Low-impact in-place jumping stuff like running in-place, knee-ups, kicks, no-weight squats, no-weight lunges, etc. immediately followed by one serving of Oryx Goat Whey (30g protein).
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    40 minute workout done from 7:50am - 8:40am.
    Medium to brisk walking immediately followed by one serving of Oryx Goat Whey (30g protein), 18g carb (1 slice whole grain bread), and 3g fat (1g hemp oil, 1g fish oil, 1g sesamin).
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    End of week 11: Stats taken Sunday morning 11/11/2007 on empty
    Weight: 175 lbs

    My upper body and legs feel fuller, my midsection still needs some work. Some people told me my shoulder width, back, and chest look bigger/fuller.

    I need to adjust my diet and follow it. I want to gain lean muscle and lose flab to get my 6-pack by January 5th. I think I can do it and I hope the addition of morning cardio helps me get there.
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    End of week 13: Stats taken Sunday morning 12/02/2007 on empty
    Weight: 176 lbs

    My buddy and I have been working out together on weekdays from 6:15am to ~7:15am depending on the body part for that day. We will continue doing this for another 6 weeks because of temporary changes to our work schedule.

    This schedule adjustment has put a cramp in my eating schedule and I find it difficult to eat all my meals because I'm training the entire development team at my job and training is from 8am to 5pm. I do my best by drinking shakes but would much rather eat whole food meals. I can't wait to go back to my regular schedule near the end of January 2008.

    It has been 13 weeks since I started this log, time to re-measure...
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    Workouts are going great, but diet not so good - I'm not eating as much as I should. I'll weigh in tomorrow morning and post.
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    Well, I lost the challenge to get a 6-pack by January 5th. No worries, I have not given up!
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    I decided to give dermal Formastane a try. I am using NP Formastane and Penetrate: 5g in 1 bottle. I started using it last Sunday and will continue using it for a few weeks, I'm still undecided of when I'll stop.
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    End of week 20: Stats taken Sunday morning 1/20/2008 on empty
    Weight: 172 lbs

    I'm down 4 lbs from last week. I've been eating less than usual due to work schedule complications. Still not giving up... I really need to post updated pics...
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    End of week 21: Stats taken Sunday morning 1/27/2008 on empty
    Weight: 173 lbs (+1 from last week)

    Training is good. Starting to feel some discomfort in my joints, probably due to the increase in weight and the Form drying me up some.
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    well, i had a minor accident at the gym and busted open my index finger and broke some bone. i'm taking a break to let it heal. also stopped using form - will resume when i get close to normal again.
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    Finger is looking better. Stitches are out and wound has sealed about 99%. There is a tiny little gap between the flesh and left side of nail that needs to seal. Finger is also stiff and bone will need time to fuse back together.

    So, I think I'm ready to start light. I'll probably go to the gym today and do some legs, abs, and lower back. I'm tired of sitting around. Even light cardio was causing problems with the wound - stitches were stretching and caused separation, probably from the temporary increase in heart rate.

    I'm also starting to re-develop some flab around my midsection, and that is a big no-no!

    I was not all cut up before my injury, but I had lost some flab and I really don't want it back.
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    Still can't quite grip weights with my left hand, so I've started with cardio workouts from p90x DVDs. Did cardio yesterday and plyometrics today.

    Not sure what I'll feel like doing tomorrow.
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    My finger is improving. My grip is much better but not 100%. I'm tired of not being able to comfortably lift.
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    Godspeed on recovery SS! How is that P90x? Any good?
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    P90X is great! I've done most of the workouts at least once. I tried it for a few weeks straight and started noticing results, got comments at work like "your face and your waist are looking leaner, but your upper body is getting big, what are you doing?" But all this was way before my finger injury.

    My problem is the food. I'm eating a lot cleaner but still can't manage to eat my 6 meals a day... but not giving up. I just came back from the gym and had a decent cardio and upper body workout.

    I may revert to the split day routine, that's what started giving me great results. Lift in the AM and P90X cardio in the PM. Stay tuned.
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    Smile Preparing for H-Drol cycle


    Although my finger tip still hurts, it is nowhere near as bad as it was last week. I think I'm ready to kick it up a notch so I'm going to prep all next week to start a H-Drol only cycle in 2 weeks.
    My prep will include:
    * milk thistle for liver protection
    * celery seed extract for blood pressure control
    * saw palmetto for prostate protection
    * trans resveratrol for cardiovascular protection and SERM-like effects
    * P-5-P for basic energy and protein synthesis as well as prevention of progestin induced gyno
    * I've been using fish oil for a few months now and will continue using it to assist with lipid control.

    My PCT will include:
    * a continuation of the above
    * Anabolic Innovation's PCT
    * depending on what I learn during my cycle and how my body reacts to H-Drol, I also have Formastane and NP Trione (6-OXO)
    * I do not have access to a SERM and will not risk buying one online. I know I'm probably going to get flamed for this, but I've thought about it enough and I am willing to give my cycle a try.

    Most importantly, my focus will be on getting my diet and workouts back on track. I was doing good before my accident and I need a little boost not only for results but also for motivation.
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    Adding details to the first post for my cycle, which starts tomorrow.
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    I've had a great week. Although my workouts did not go as planned, I got each major musclegroup worked twice. Very focused and intense. I don't attribute this to H-Drol - too early based on average logs. I can't wait for it to kick in... maybe it already did, but this is only my first week haha.

    I'll post weight tomorrow, probably no changes...
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    So far so good. I started to feel something a couple of days ago. Not sure if it is due to H-Drol or the 20-rep squats, but whatever it is it feels like a light "ON" feeling slightly increasing every day.
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    So far so good. Updates added to first post.
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    Added more updates. Things are going good. I had a great full body workout today, haven't had one like this in a long time.
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    More updates added to first post. I really liked the Xtreme Tren, too bad the gov is adding it to the banned list. Oh well, at least I got to try it once and it worked great.

    Not so impressed with H-Drol.
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