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  1. *blinks* Damn LCSULLA, is that you???


  2. Hey LCSULLA how's it goin?

    Monday:
    -5 minutes warmup on bike
    -Deads 2 sets of 10 reps of 100 lbs.
    -Bent-over BB row
    *90x10, 110x6
    -Oly Bar Curl
    *50x10, 60x7
    -Assisted Chins
    *98 (170 assist)x12, 108x8
    -DB Hammer curls
    *25x7, 30x5
    -Standing 45deg Cable Row
    *80x12, 100x8
    -Rear-Delt machine flyes
    *80x12, 95x10
    -20 minutes cardio on elliptical.

    ManBeast
    Last edited by ManBeast; 09-27-2006 at 11:33 PM.
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  3. Tuesday:
    -5 minutes cardio on bike
    -db flyes
    20x10, 25x10
    -bench press
    125x10, 150x6
    -incline db press
    35x12, 40x10
    -dips (assisted, total lifted recorded)
    *chest: 78x7, 108x5
    *triceps: 98x6
    -skullcrushers
    *30x12, 40x9
    -rope triceps (someone was in my way, i didn't want to stand still)
    *50x15
    -tricep pulldowns
    *50x12, 60x7
    -20 minutes cardio on bike

    ManBeast
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  4. good log bro!! I will def continue to check it out!

  5. Wednesday:
    -5 minutes cardio on bike
    -Arnold Press db
    *20x10 (warmup), 25x10, 35x6
    -Arnold curl db
    *15x10 (warmup), 20x12, 30x7
    -Vert BB press
    *60x12, 85x9
    -Shrugs
    *200x12, 230x9
    -Lat raises
    10x12, 20x7
    -Abs (balanced crunch on bench)
    Bodyweight x 15, Bodyweight x 12
    -20 minutes cardio on Elliptical.

    I started off this morning with a real drag-ass feeling and have been a bit tired today. I attribute it to my not sleeping well the past few nights finally catching up to me, and the fact that I just started tapering down my clen today. Tomorrow is legs day and I'm hoping for a good night sleep to really go and whoop my own a$$.

    ManBeast
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  6. Thursday:
    -5 minutes cardio on bike
    -Squats: warmup 100x10
    *140x10, 175x7, 205x5
    -Front squats
    *100x12, 120x10
    -SLDL
    130x12, 165x10
    -Leg Press (plates per side)
    *3x8, 4+10lbs x3
    -calf raises (plates per side)
    *3x12, 4x9, 5x6

    ManBeast
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  7. Weekend update:
    Friday: 30 minutes cardio on bike.
    Saturday: 2 mile walk
    Sunday 30 minutes cardio on elliptical.

    I have upped the "level" of my cardio on all machines as of this week. I have done this while maintaining the same pace and incline where applicable. Today is also the first day that I have started up the A.L.R.I. Tri-lean system. I like the Venom Hyperdrive 3.0 a *LOT*

    ManBeast
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  8. Weigh-in: 270 (I will get to this later...)

    Monday:
    -5 minute cardio on bike
    -2 sets of 100 pound deadlifts for 10 reps
    -Bent Over BB row
    *90x10, 110x7
    -Oly Curl
    *50x10, 60x8
    -Assisted Chins (amount lifted)
    *100x12, 120x7
    -Hammer Curls DB
    *25x7, 30x6
    -45 deg standing cable row
    *80x12, 100x10
    -Rear Flyes
    12x80, 10x95
    -20 minutes cardio on Elliptical.

    Ok... about the weight... I really feel like I'm retaining water right now. I did not get enough to drink on saturday, and barely got 1.5 gallons yesterday. I am pretty sure that I'll drop it quick. I also feel stronger, and my lifts are up (at least in reps) right now, despite not getting great sleep the last few days. Finally, I am starting to look a bit leaner, especially in my upper chest and arms, and a bit in my lower back. I have lost some weight around my waist for sure because my pants are fitting worse and worse as the weeks go by. So while I am not happy about the scale, I am not too worried.

    ManBeast
    Last edited by ManBeast; 10-03-2006 at 04:16 PM.
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  9. what's your bf%? and why arent your lifts going up? 100x2x10 on deadlifts isnt much, my gf can do 135x2x10 and she's half your size

  10. First, today's workout:

    Tuesday:
    -5 minute warmup on bike
    -DB Flyes
    *20x10, *25,10
    -Flat Bench
    *130x10, 155x6
    -Incline DB press
    *35x12, 40x10
    -Dips (assited, lifted total)
    *chest: 90x7, 110x5
    *triceps: 100x6
    -Skull Crushers
    *30x12, 40x12
    +10 close-grip flat bench press @ 40 lbs, no pause after skulls
    -Cable Tris
    *50x15, 60x10 (I'm going to change my rep scheme to reflect this).
    -30 minutes cardio on bike.

    Now... guyfromkop2...
    If you would read my first post as well as my reply to you earlier. You would know that I'm trying to get back into shape. This is my redemption thread. In the first post I state that the deadlifts are a warmup. I am using them to just work my lower back some. Not to kill my legs, since I do a pretty good leg day every Thursday, as well as daily cardio (except leg day). My lifts *just* started to go up this week. One reason I am going up slowley is because I do not have anyone to spot me on anything, and the weightroom I am working out in necesitates the use of collars (even though they are not required), and I am pretty sure the seniors that are there would complain if I made a huge racket with anything. I am doing the best that I can with what I have avaliable to me right now. I am truly sorry that my workouts and lifts are (obviously) not up to your standards.

    ManBeast
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  11. Quote Originally Posted by ManBeast
    Now... guyfromkop2...
    If you would read my first post as well as my reply to you earlier. You would know that I'm trying to get back into shape. This is my redemption thread. In the first post I state that the deadlifts are a warmup. I am using them to just work my lower back some. Not to kill my legs, since I do a pretty good leg day every Thursday, as well as daily cardio (except leg day). My lifts *just* started to go up this week. One reason I am going up slowley is because I do not have anyone to spot me on anything, and the weightroom I am working out in necesitates the use of collars (even though they are not required), and I am pretty sure the seniors that are there would complain if I made a huge racket with anything. I am doing the best that I can with what I have avaliable to me right now. I am truly sorry that my workouts and lifts are (obviously) not up to your standards.

    ManBeast

    even when you were at your best(as you put it here "I used to be 220ish, with a bench of 200 for 2 reps, squat of 275 for 4 reps, and a 300 for 2 deadlift") it was subpar for a guy your size, if you want to lose all this fat you need to put on lean muscle, lean muscle eats up fat like crazy. and taking clen, t3, and whatever other fat burners you are taking is just eating up whatever little lean muscle you have and are putting on. since your lifts arent going up you are eating upwhatever lean muscle you are putting on. lifts not going up = you not gaining muscle = you not buring up fat that will stay off. very simple. one of the biggest problems with this and many other boards is everyone thinks if they take supplement xyz then they will lose all sorts of fat. you're 270, put some damn weight on the bar.

  12. Look, i'm NOT on t3 (which eats muscle), clen has actually been shown to be slightly anti-catabolic when used with proper training and diet. Again, my lifts ARE going up, I just have to be cautious due to the environment I am able to work in. I *think* that getting an extra rep (or more) is adding weight. The DBs in my gym go up in 5 pound increments, which is TOO much for certain exercises. Some of the Cable-based machines only go up in 10 or 15 pound intervals. I have to adapt to my surroundings and utilize them to the fullest I can. I also have to be safe, and to me, without having a spotter, that means I have to be more cautious and very *sure* of myself before I add weight. I am also what some might call a "form nazi". I make sure that I keep near-perfect form on every rep of every set, and control the weight. None of the "ballistic bounce benching" that I have seen so many people do, or the 1/4-squat with the knees past the toes and all of the weight on the balls of the feet. Finally, I am not trying to add muscle at this point. If I do... wonderful. I am just trying not to loose the muscle I have while annihilating as much fat as possible. I am NOT loosing muscle, my definition is getting better and better, my girlfriend has noticed (and she sees me every day) a significant change in the last couple months. Also, I am an Endo-meso bodytype (i would say 70% endo, 30% meso) So I might have to do things differently than you... There is not a "one size fits all" solution to getting rid of fat.

    ManBeast
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  13. Wednesday:
    -5 minute warmup on bike
    -Arnold Press db
    *20x10 (warmup), 25x12, 40x6
    -Arnold Curl db
    *15x10 (warmup), 25x12, 30x7
    -Vert BB Press
    *65x12, 90x7
    -Shrugs
    *200x12, 230x10
    -Lat Raises db
    10x12, 20x7
    -Cable Abs
    *50x15, 60x12
    -20 minutes cardio on Elliptical

    ManBeast
    -Saving random peoples' nuts, one pair at at time... PCT info:
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    -Are you really ready for a cycle? Read this link and be honest:
    http://anabolicminds.com/forum/steroids/191120-checklist-before-thinking.html
    *I am not a medical expert, my opinions are not professional, and I strongly suggest doing research of your own.*

  14. I'm with manbeast on this one. Some of us have extremely different goals and have to meet them using whatever available means we have. And calling someone out over their lifts is kinda messed up to begin with when they are trying to return to the gym.

    I can bench over 400 raw at ~230 pounds. WHile not impressive to most who visit these boards i'm quite confidant i'll be able to 2x my body weight soon.

    If I remember right GFK you're over 300 pounds. Are you close to 600 pounds bench raw?

    What i'm getting at is that it's an unfair comparison. Our goals are different. Our body types are different and our surroundings/lifestyles are different.

    We should be here for support and push people into the right direction. Advice because we see improper supp use or routines that need some serious tweaking is one thing. Calling someone's lifts pathetic is another.

  15. Quote Originally Posted by Jayhawkk
    I'm with manbeast on this one. Some of us have extremely different goals and have to meet them using whatever available means we have. And calling someone out over their lifts is kinda messed up to begin with when they are trying to return to the gym.

    I can bench over 400 raw at ~230 pounds. WHile not impressive to most who visit these boards i'm quite confidant i'll be able to 2x my body weight soon.

    If I remember right GFK you're over 300 pounds. Are you close to 600 pounds bench raw?

    What i'm getting at is that it's an unfair comparison. Our goals are different. Our body types are different and our surroundings/lifestyles are different.

    We should be here for support and push people into the right direction. Advice because we see improper supp use or routines that need some serious tweaking is one thing. Calling someone's lifts pathetic is another.

    i'm not calling his lifts pathetic, i'm calling his progression pathetic, in a month's time his body weight has stayed the same, and his lifts have barely gone up in weight and reps. according to his past prs and muscle memory, he should of made leaps and bounds in his first month back. for someone who's trying to lose all this weight, what i can see from his journal alone is he's not pushing himself. we go around a lot of the same boards jayhawk and dont tell me that on the other boards people would tell him to put the clen down and be critiquing his routine. if he was doing the dieting/workout correctly, he would be getting leaner and stronger all at the same time, that's just the way it goes and how our bodies react.

    and no can do on benching 600, and even if i could i wouldnt, i like my tri's and shoulders

    oh and benching over 400 raw is impressive, dont kid yourself

  16. Ok... lets do a little counting here.
    Started (i start sundays) the cardio day on 9-10
    Started log on 9-11-06
    Spent 1 week on NOTIHNG just figuring out the workout. I also really cleaned up my diet this week.
    Started Clen 9-17.
    Did not loose any weight that week, and knew why.
    Spent this week figuring out exactly what weights work right, being safe and not ever having a spotter.
    9-25 weighed two pounds less than 9-18.
    Spent the next week correcting mistakes (too light/heavy) from last week (again no spotter).
    FINALLY starting on 10-1 I was able to go into the gym and know where I could push, and where I was good on weights. Yes my weight is up, but I speculated as to why in a specific post. I also included my comments about my clothing, and what the mirror shows me. Which to me is way more important than a scale (until they have one that accurately tells you your bodyfat... then the scale MIGHT have an advantage).

    If you read what I am trying to do with each set in the first post of this thread, and then compare it to what I am doing on those sets, you will see that there has been some progress on a good amount of the lifts. You just don't seem to understand how hard it is to push yourself when there is nobody to spot you, and you can't just tip a bar or drop weights. I am working out at a YMCA, so far, nobody really does anything super hardcore there, and nobody talks to anybody unless they already know them (I am from another state entirely, and I'm in a town of 12,000 where everyone knows each other from birth pretty much, my college had 16,000 people). It just isn't the atmosphere for intense hardcore training without a spotter. I have to re-learn where my failure points are. Could I get better results, probably back at my old gym, where I had friends I could lift with who liked to train hardcore. Here everyone does the "Men's Fitness" or "Men's Health" workout, or circut trains. Most people have piss-poor form and are only lifting for their ego, or half-assing it because thier parents/significant other/etc. makes them go. C'mon out here and spot me if you want me to push myself even harder.

    ManBeast
    -Saving random peoples' nuts, one pair at at time... PCT info:
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    -Are you really ready for a cycle? Read this link and be honest:
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    *I am not a medical expert, my opinions are not professional, and I strongly suggest doing research of your own.*

  17. Quote Originally Posted by ManBeast
    Ok... lets do a little counting here.
    Started (i start sundays) the cardio day on 9-10
    Started log on 9-11-06
    Spent 1 week on NOTIHNG just figuring out the workout. I also really cleaned up my diet this week.
    Started Clen 9-17.
    Did not loose any weight that week, and knew why.
    Spent this week figuring out exactly what weights work right, being safe and not ever having a spotter.
    9-25 weighed two pounds less than 9-18.
    Spent the next week correcting mistakes (too light/heavy) from last week (again no spotter).
    FINALLY starting on 10-1 I was able to go into the gym and know where I could push, and where I was good on weights. Yes my weight is up, but I speculated as to why in a specific post. I also included my comments about my clothing, and what the mirror shows me. Which to me is way more important than a scale (until they have one that accurately tells you your bodyfat... then the scale MIGHT have an advantage).

    If you read what I am trying to do with each set in the first post of this thread, and then compare it to what I am doing on those sets, you will see that there has been some progress on a good amount of the lifts. You just don't seem to understand how hard it is to push yourself when there is nobody to spot you, and you can't just tip a bar or drop weights. I am working out at a YMCA, so far, nobody really does anything super hardcore there, and nobody talks to anybody unless they already know them (I am from another state entirely, and I'm in a town of 12,000 where everyone knows each other from birth pretty much, my college had 16,000 people). It just isn't the atmosphere for intense hardcore training without a spotter. I have to re-learn where my failure points are. Could I get better results, probably back at my old gym, where I had friends I could lift with who liked to train hardcore. Here everyone does the "Men's Fitness" or "Men's Health" workout, or circut trains. Most people have piss-poor form and are only lifting for their ego, or half-assing it because thier parents/significant other/etc. makes them go. C'mon out here and spot me if you want me to push myself even harder.

    ManBeast
    you dont need clen to lose weight unless you are a bber and need to get down a couple percentages in time for a show.

    i trained for years without a steady spotter, even now i train alone, and to this day i only use a spotter on squats when i'm doing my last one or two squats before a meet, and that's because i'm in full gear. i've learned to dump the bar off my back and/or squat in a rack. not hard if you're not in gear. i only truely need a spotter/lift off guy when i'm doing my shirt work, and that's because it's nearly impossible to shirt bench w/o a spotter. so the needing a spotter thing is not a valid excuse, the weight room is no place for excuses . it doesnt hurt to ask someone real quick for a spot if you really need one.

  18. I am NOT using it as an excuse, but honestly, I would rather work back to weights safely, than have a problem. I can't drop weights at all here, you get funny looks if you re-rack loudly, and forget making noise (even exhaling loud) while doing a set unless you want everyone (especially the older folks) looking at you and/or complaining to the staff about how disruptive you are. I'm not a BBer, I know my body, I have done my research, I have a few tools at my disposal to help me. I am not risking my health. If I start to feel wrong in anyway, no sh!t I'm going to stop things and re-evaluate. I don't care how you train. I am not going to go significantly past where I know I can make a lift without a spotter. There is no real squat cage, it is just a rack with about 1 foot per side to catch the bar if you have to put it down. It is a "fitness center" not a real weightroom... No it does not hurt to ask, but honestly, judging how people don't let others work in, and don't respect other peoples space, I highly doubt that they are going to spot someone, let alone someone they don't even know. You are not out here at this POS gym, I wish there was better around, but there isn't...

    But this is really getting ridiculous. I just wanted a place to keep a log to track my progress and get *constructive* criticizm.

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  19. Thursday:
    -5 minute warmup on bike
    -Squats
    *100x12(warmup), 150x10, 175x7, 205x5
    -Front Squats
    *100x12, 125x10
    -SLDL
    *150x10 (I forgot I should do 12), 175x10, 175x10
    -Leg Press (plates per side)
    *3x8, 4+10x5
    -Calves (plates per side)
    *12x3, 9x4, 5x6

    ManBeast
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  20. How did the leg workout feel to you? I'm still having serious issues with leg days due to my back.

  21. Well, I like the way it feels. I usually have a *bit* of trouble properly walking up my stairs right afterwards. During the workout, I feel my lower back doing its job (mostly during the front squats), it gets a bit tired by the end (which is why I put leg press at the end to go super heavy on), but feels a lot better by the time I get to my car, and is not noticable 1 hour after working out. I like this split a lot, although I do wish I had 5 days to lift, but hey, you gotta work with what you got right?

    ManBeast
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  22. Exactamundo! Gotta do with what you have. I find I have to work real light weight with higher reps to get a workout that doesn't end 5 minutes into it. it's embarassing when you're throwing around pretty good weight upper body and squatting 225. But I do with what I can.

  23. I understand that. I know that people on this board understand that Form and Saftey come before Weight (to prevent injuries etc.), but it is truly amazing how many people out in the "real world" don't seem to understand this... And ever since I've started to lift at the YMCA, I have learned that this problem isn't only with "kids" or "Young Adults" even seniors can (and will) do some really stupid things when it comes to weightlifting. I really wish that more people would realize that NOBODY cares how much you lift, or how many times you lift it... but they will get annoyed if you grunt and scream with every rep!

    ManBeast
    -Saving random peoples' nuts, one pair at at time... PCT info:
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  24. looking good bro.. look forward to your progress. Keep this one going.

    I've never had a spotter either.

  25. Weekend update... Didn't get any "real" cardio in unless you count running around for 30 minutes in a lazer tag game (I won!), and chasing 2 little kids (2 and 3 years old) around a park, playing catch, and just trying to keep them from sprinting into a damn lake... for about 2 hours. Man... now that was some cardio...

    Weighed in this morning at 260! I had to check the scale 3 or 4 times because I couldn't believe it. I felt like I was holding water last week, but I didn't think I'd drop 10 lbs including the water this week! This tri-lean sytem *really* works. I am never hungry (and this is very strange to me), I have to remember/force myself to eat. Hyperdrive really wakes me up in the morning (even 1), and Lean Dreams really get me into a good sleep (I feel dang good after 6 hours, even if that's all I get each night for a week so far). Thumbs up to this stack.

    Monday:
    -5 minute warmup on bike(#)
    -Deads
    *100x10, 100x12
    -BO BB Row
    *90x10, 115x7
    -Oly Bar Curl
    *50x10, 65x6
    -Assisted chins (lifted)
    *100x12, 120x7
    -Hammer Curl db
    *25x8, 35x5 (last one with spot from my girlfriend)
    -standing 45 deg cable row
    *80x12, 105x10
    -Rear delt flyes
    *80x12, 95x9
    -20 minutes cardio on elliptical

    ManBeast
    -Saving random peoples' nuts, one pair at at time... PCT info:
    http://anabolicminds.com/forum/steroids/192992-pct-what-why.html
    -Are you really ready for a cycle? Read this link and be honest:
    http://anabolicminds.com/forum/steroids/191120-checklist-before-thinking.html
    *I am not a medical expert, my opinions are not professional, and I strongly suggest doing research of your own.*

  26. I'd consider that cardio MB

  27. congrats on your progress! Your goal will be closer and closer now. That's all you need for motivation bro.

  28. Thanks Ubi.
    Monday:
    5 minutes cardio on bike.
    -Flyes db
    20x10, 25,10
    -Flat Bench
    *130x10, 155x6
    -Inc Db
    *35x12, 40x12
    -Dips (lifted)
    *Chest: 100x7, 110x5
    *Tris: 100x7
    -Skulls
    *30x12 (I grabbed the wrong weights to put on the bar...)
    40x12, 50x9 followed by 10 CG press with no pause. (going to add this in)
    -Cable Tri
    50x15, 60x10
    -30 minutes cardio on bike.

    ManBeast
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    http://anabolicminds.com/forum/steroids/192992-pct-what-why.html
    -Are you really ready for a cycle? Read this link and be honest:
    http://anabolicminds.com/forum/steroids/191120-checklist-before-thinking.html
    *I am not a medical expert, my opinions are not professional, and I strongly suggest doing research of your own.*

  29. How do you like starting your chest with Flyes?

    Your tris must have been fried at the end huh? cables get HARD if I leave them for last.

  30. I am actually liking it. I feel that it allows me to get more of my pecs involved in the bench since I can't take the bar down into full extension when doing a BB bench. It isn't effecting my flat bench all that much it seems. I really don't *care* what I bench right now, I don't do the flyes to total failure, and I only approach failure on the Flat bench. I would rather hit total failure on the incline press or the dips, since I won't get caught under a bar.

    Yes... by the end, my tris are completely fried, and lord did the random program on the bike have it out for me yesterday...

    ManBeast
    -Saving random peoples' nuts, one pair at at time... PCT info:
    http://anabolicminds.com/forum/steroids/192992-pct-what-why.html
    -Are you really ready for a cycle? Read this link and be honest:
    http://anabolicminds.com/forum/steroids/191120-checklist-before-thinking.html
    *I am not a medical expert, my opinions are not professional, and I strongly suggest doing research of your own.*
  

  
 

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