Motiv8erjr's log... it makes Glen and Beelze look short!
- 05-20-2006, 06:36 PM
- 05-20-2006, 06:50 PM
Thanks J... It kinda embarassed me just cuz I was trying to be the little **** and messed it up.
- 05-20-2006, 06:59 PM
Alright, I have a question for you boys. what type of shoe do you recommend to lift in? I have been lifting in a pair of running shoes, but you throw my 240 lbs body on a pair of running shoes for more than 6 months they die, throw in some lifting of 2-3 hundred lbs on my own BW and these shoes ain't lasting. I just want some of the Pl'ers ideas on what foot wear will last longer than 4-6 months for lifting?
I used to do Olympic lifting in a pair of adidas lifting shoes, but i can no longer find them online. I hear wrestling shoes make good lifting shoes, but if you drop something on your foot your f!cked and in a gym full of young hot heads I want my feet protected. SO I was looking into something like the inzer pillar, but I dont know how the arch support or anything like that is in these shoes, so if you have some insight please share
05-20-2006, 07:52 PM
this is what i use:
squatting-all black chucks(got for $40ish off chucksconnection.com)
deadlift-asics wrestling shoes(got for $20 off eastbay)
bench-whatever running shoes i'm wearing that day
you can also get those adidas oly shoes at:
05-21-2006, 12:37 AM
Wow, I was always doing Good Mornings so my back was parallel, no wonder they were always ridiculously hard. I agree with Guy on doing leg press in the deadlift stance, for me it helped a lot, somehow made my squats go up too. Also how tight do you guys go on the wraps because I made mine super tight the other day and my lower legs turned purple during my set.
05-21-2006, 12:45 AM
Originally Posted by ktw
Which sounds like you might have had them TOO tight I know when I have wrapped mine in the past I made sure blood could flow. Plus did you put the wraps on and leave them on? Because the couple of times I have gone heavy enough to use wraps 3x350 squats and 10x800 leg press, I put them on right before my set, and then strip'um off really quickly. Then if you do another set put'um back on. Other than that Beelze or Guy might have more of clue, I tend to have to wrap mine pretty tight to make them fit my legs. I got big knees / slash big body, so mine are never long enough for the job.
sorry i cant be more helpful ktw
05-21-2006, 12:47 AM
Originally Posted by guyfromkop2
Guy or Beelze or whoever, if I told you I have really high arches and it puts my achilles and hamstrings at risk of injury if I dont have the right heel and arch support, would you recommend the adidas, or just some wrestling shooes?
05-21-2006, 01:28 AM
I only wrap before sets, I did 365 a lot looser, so i dunno. i saw a video on teamsniffy.com and he emphasized tightening after every half rap, oh well, still managed to do 275x15 on the set so I'm not too bummed. Big guy, big knees huh? Sounds like we're in the same boat, im 6 2" and have huge knees and thighs. What's your weight? I'm 205 but am planning on cutting to 190 and be able to hit the 2x bodyweight mark on a regular basis.
05-21-2006, 01:39 AM
I am 6'6" and 243 as of this morning. But I am only 19 years old, and still growing. I have stopped dreaming of hitting lifts in comparison to body weight till I am at least in my twenties. Because every time I come close to reaching a lift at my body weight or times it, my BW increases too.... or my height. But yeah, I got me some big ugly knees
05-21-2006, 02:03 AM
Yah I'm only 20, just started lifting correctly in September, not really trying to do much but get bigger and I went from 156 to a top 206 the other day. Time to get rid of some of that fat I accumulated in the meantime. How wide do you go on bench and deads?
05-21-2006, 09:05 AM
Taller people normally have wider hipes so a bigger post. chain. I try to vary a a bit, but I got a bum left knee so I take a pretty narrow conventional stance for deads with a slightly wider grip than most people take. On squats I normally squat with my heels just outside of my shoulders and I will change that from workout to workout. But for now I am just going to narrow that some too and be careful of my knee, because I think I can do a more regular squat on this DC program . And I have been told by other tall people. That if you have long arms, to stay away from barbell bench, specially flat, because it works your shoulders way to much. So I tend to do a lot of DB work.
05-21-2006, 10:20 AM
ktw - if your legs turned purple they are just right just make sure to take them off after your set.
motiv8 - with the shoes, i'd say get the chucks to squat in, more support
05-21-2006, 10:21 AM
05-21-2006, 10:23 AM
05-21-2006, 01:52 PM
If you can't find chucks, which will be impossible not to do, vans classics also work. Yah, I'm gunna start doing db's pretty soon here, I got the monkey arms and always get the bench shoulder workout.
motiv8- sucks about your knee, being a tall lanky bastard myself I love squatting wide, much more power out of the hole it seems like.
Guy- Ya I took them off right after, but during my set it was ridiculous, it was like I couldn't feel my lower legs, I can't imagine using briefs
05-21-2006, 02:37 PM
ktw - briefs dont cut your circulation off like wraps do. numerous times, and i'm sure it's the same with beelze, is that my feet go numb if i'm in them too long. just part of the game
05-21-2006, 03:01 PM
05-21-2006, 07:18 PM
wraps? yeah, my calves usually turn a slight hue of purple. by the end of the set, my feet are tingling. and this is just from me wrapping myself. the ultimate wrap is when you get someone to do it for you. then, the real pain begins.Originally Posted by guyfromkop2
05-21-2006, 07:44 PM
wait till you get into a shirt, you have to wrap your wrists first, and if you're like me you like them extra tight, and then get your shirt situated, the one day i had to tell everyone that i better get under the bench soon because my hands were turning purpleOriginally Posted by Beelzebub
05-21-2006, 08:18 PM
Hey man just thought I'd chime in hereOriginally Posted by motiv8erJR
Personally, I lift in New Balance shoes. My latest pair, M890, I have had for over six months. They are marketed as a running / training shoe, but have held up very well! They are extremely comfy, look good (if you like black), and give me good support for heavy lifts like deadlifts and squats. If you are worried about them crumbling under your size, I'm 240lbs+ @ 5'10", they've survived so far ! Anyways, keep up the quality log, and good luck with the shoe situation!
edit: I just checked the company website and they have been replaced with a new model M891, but the new ones look similar.
05-21-2006, 10:48 PM
05-21-2006, 11:50 PM
Hey, I am just glad that no one suggested I lift in my Doc Martens. BC be careful squatting in a shoe that isn't straight laced. I couldn't tell if that shoe or not was. But when ya got long legs your knees will go in weird directions if your shoes are laced in a curve. Thanks for the suggestions boys. i am pretty much just looking at a pair of core converses or the ol' adidas lifting shoes for deads and squats. Thanks though!
05-22-2006, 02:04 AM
Originally Posted by ktw
Eh, I dunno, maybe it is because my limbs are not as long as yours and MotivatorJRs, but I was doing work sets of 400lbs last week just fine.
Because they are not 100% flat, it is supposed to increase the chances I will topple forward? Should I order some Chucks?
05-22-2006, 09:50 AM
don't fix what ain't broke
although, i would always recommend chucks over any other type of shoe for squatting. the flatter - the better. i would think a standard running shoe would force you to place more emphasis on your quads and perhaps cause knee issues. if the shoe is flatter, you can recruit your hams/glutes more into the movement.
05-22-2006, 12:40 PM
Ya what beez said and it's harder to use heel force with them, but to each their own. if you're doing 400 with them then keep going with it
05-22-2006, 01:15 PM
plus the sides of running shoes arent that strong, so the chances of you rolling your ankle is much greater
05-22-2006, 02:22 PM
Standing smith calf press from a deficit:
10x815 PR (I could only fit 17 45's on the leg press... its a cheap paramount so it worked My partner had to help hold the 17th's on top of the sled.
Romanian Dead lifts:
10x315 PR Yeah! (used straps due to \/ )
alright so I had to cut my workout short for a couple of reasons. 1st-when I broke my left knee, in the same accident I broke my left forearm in half, its held together at the bone by two metal plates. I aggravated the tendons that go over the metal moving out of the dorm the other day, so I did not do biceps or forearms because i didn't think it a good idea. I am gonna ice my forearm and give it a rest.
Alright, I fly home tomorrow. so take care!
05-22-2006, 02:42 PM
awesome job brutha. remember, small people make great additions to sit on top the leg press for added weight
05-22-2006, 02:49 PM
Amen to that. At the gym I just switched too the leg press only holds 815..I had to get my gf to sit on top of it.Originally Posted by Beelzebub
05-22-2006, 03:03 PM
Is 315 what your standing calf press machine tops out at? It's the same @ our university gym, I just go for reps.Originally Posted by motiv8erJR
Also, you are flying home? Done with the semester? I am jealous man! I'm on the quarter system over here and am stuck in classes till June 18th
Nice job on the Romanian DLs!
05-22-2006, 03:16 PM
Originally Posted by Beelzebub
If only there was a small person at this gym... My partner is almost 200, so could have probably done more. but I dont think this ole sled could take much more I go home tomorrow where my leg press is already bent from me but it will hold a lot more
05-22-2006, 03:19 PM
It wasn't a calf machine, just smith rack with 315 on it, and me on a 20 KG bumper doing DC like movement. I didn't want to put much stress on my back, cuz CNS burn out scares me, so I just did higher reps with 315 instead of trying a higher weightOriginally Posted by BigCasino
Yup, I fly home tuesday, and I am finished with this school year! Thanks fo the support ya'll (I was ready to heave after the RDL's )
05-24-2006, 05:44 PM
Did I say it was nice to be home? Had to make a run to GNC this morning for protein its nice to work there part time... get the discount and my boss loves me so I got 5 lbs tub of ON whey and a free tub of Bananna creme Muscle Milk with some UNi-Liver he couldn't sell
Decline Dumbell Press:
100x5 plus a BIG negative PR
Barbell Shoulder Shrugs SS with lateral Raises:
135x15 ss 15x12
225x8 ss 20x12
405x12 ss 20x15 PR
I do the shrugs with a 3 sec. hold at the top same with the lat. raise
Close Grip BB press:
I stayed at one weight because my arms were fryed from the 100 DB's ^
Lat Pull Downs:
200x12 with straps PR
I haven't done these in a year
200x10 with straps
hadn't done these either.... was very happy with them, gonna have to add weight to the stack next time and drop the first two sets and do a 100x15 as a warm up
All DC stretchs for each exercise 90 sec.
back :45 lbs
20 minutes on the Gauntlet!
05-25-2006, 02:32 PM
get some chucks, and get a molded insole from a pediatrist. He will be able to get a custom model set up for you that supports your arch perfectly while not doing too much to make your foot unstable.
Also, I am a huge fan of deads these days, but you've got to mix it up. I do some kind of deadlift every week. You can do rack pulls, deadlifts off a platform, deadlifts off the floor, switch stances, one armed deadlifts, deadlifts with/against bands, etc. Big thing is just not to overdo it, deadlifts are one of those exercises (squats and good mornings are like this too) where you can do just fine with 3 sets of 5 at 80%, 4 sets of 3 at 85% or 6 sets of 1 at 90% and call it a day without pushing it TOO hard. I've made the mistake of pushing too hard on my legs and my PRs got very very small (i.e. just barely squeezing out one more rep). Keep the volume and percentages slightly lower for legs than you might normally think, and don't worry so much about going to failure frequently, but hammer them often.
05-25-2006, 03:14 PM
05-25-2006, 04:28 PM
Originally Posted by exnihilo
I understand what you are saying. This was my first two week rotation of a DC style training, and I wasn't sure exsactly what weights I needed, so I tried to hit reps till I knew what felt right, and I didn't over do the working sets. So, the next two weeks should be more proving.
Thanks for the advice on the insole though ex
05-25-2006, 04:50 PM
That's major good advice on the rotating your Dead's..I am doing the same program as you and actually only end up doing Floor Pulls twice a month. Even still my Dead has gone up 40lbs since starting the program. Like Ex said, they are an easy exercise to overdo
05-25-2006, 05:31 PM
i have a quick question, im currently three days deep in a haladrol cycle and im not sure how intense i should work out one source tells me day1 back bi's day2chest triceps day3 legs day4 shoulder lats than 2 days of rest while the other is telling me i shouldnt need to take days off as long as im switching muscle groups every day
05-25-2006, 07:45 PM
Originally Posted by Irish alky
Do you have your PCT ready, if you want a serious answer on this board you need to give your stats and that means height, weight, AGE, and number of years you train, and an idea of what you eat on a daily basis. No matter what you are on you need rest days dude, Look at Beelze he is probably one of the strongest mofos on here, and he only lifts four days a week.... think on that and if you still need answers I am only 19 and dont plan on touching any form of anabolics anytime soon. So maybe take this post seriously and post your question in the forum named anabolics. But do what I told you, list your stats... or no one will help... and if jmh80 finds you first... good luck
05-25-2006, 07:49 PM
Originally Posted by Mulletsoldier
Yeah, I switched up my deads, and I am only doing Romanian's once every two weeks.... which is in my mind plenty of time. Because at my height lifting deads will not only burn out my CNS and lower lumber but can also but un-needed stress on my forearm... its held together by metal... not good.
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