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    Straps or no on the Krocs?
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    Quote Originally Posted by AZMIDLYF View Post
    Nothing better than walking in the gym and feeling great. You running any supplements right now Rodja?
    I'm using Erase Pro, Alphamine, Enhanced, and cruising on E.
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    Those Kroc Row numbers are huge man. Solid freaking workout volume too.
    I'm glad to be able to get my base back so quickly and able to get back to ramp up the volume.
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    Straps or no on the Krocs?
    Straps. I figure doing roughly 2/3 of my BW for rows warrants using straps.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rodja View Post
    Straps. I figure doing roughly 2/3 of my BW for rows warrants using straps.
    Hahaha. I can't say I disagree with you there. I did Krocs once upon a time, but I'm not in that neighborhood. I need to be to keep upright during squats and finish off my sumo pulls.
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    What's the weekly cruising speed?
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    Quote Originally Posted by AZMIDLYF View Post
    What's the weekly cruising speed?
    250 until June.
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    That is enough to keep your levels up?
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    Quote Originally Posted by AZMIDLYF View Post
    That is enough to keep your levels up?
    I'm not a heavy user. I've only jumped above 500 on two occasions and didn't notice a difference in terms of strength. For this one, I'm going to try a different approach with the PEDs as I hate the cardio killing sides of tren and won't be using it again.
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    Ok, I was just curious as to how 200 was enough to provide benefit when you are suppressing your natural production and only bringing in 200. This area is totally foreign for me and will be until I possibly end up on TRT.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AZMIDLYF View Post
    Ok, I was just curious as to how 200 was enough to provide benefit when you are suppressing your natural production and only bringing in 200. This area is totally foreign for me and will be until I possibly end up on TRT.
    250 has been my cruise dose for awhile now and I may keep this dose throughout and use other compounds for strength. I haven't decided yet, but I'll likely use 1T cyp and NPP or dbol.
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    5/2 Lower


    Sumo
    315x5x5

    Oly Squat
    135x10x2
    225x8x2

    Walking DB lunges
    55x12x3

    Standing Cable Crunches
    110x15
    120x15
    130x12

    Hypers/Donkey Calf Raises
    BWx15/180x15
    BWx15/240x15
    BWx15/240x15

    My pulls are really off right now since I'm going raw for a little. Between the lack of groin support and the narrower stance, my technique doesn't feel quite right.
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    When do you plan on getting back into gear?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sean1332 View Post
    When do you plan on getting back into gear?
    I'll probably throw on suit bottoms in a few weeks, but not sure on the shirt and full gear.
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    5/4 Upper

    Close Grip Bench (+200# chain)
    135x5x2
    155x2
    135x5

    2-Board Close Grip (+120# chain)
    135x10x3

    Pullups
    BWx6x5

    Tate Press/Pullaparts (mini)
    40x12x4/15x4

    Band External Rotations (mini)
    15x3

    We got a TX Power Bar and used it for the first time on this day. We were all in a "do something stupid" mood and decided to use all the chain we had on us despite the fact that none of us are strong enough raw benchers for 200# of chain. Nobody got hurt and we're far out enough that now is the time to do something stupid. I'm still hitting a lot of volume on shoulder/RC work and will keep this up for at least until the end of June.
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    The "stupid" days are always the most fun.
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    Sounds like stupid fun to me haha
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    Agreed, and often it's trying something dumb that opens your eyes to new methods or you surprise yourself by your own strength.
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    It felt weird to use that much chain, but it was a nice change of pace from my normal accumulation stuff.

    5/5 Lower

    Oly-style Squat
    225x5x2
    275x5x2
    315x3

    Cambered GM
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    Unilateral LP/DB Shrugs
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    540x10/90x10

    I'm starting to find my groove on Oly-style squats and it's definitely something I'll keep in the rotation to spare my hips. I might use some loose briefs on them for overload, but will keep the same stance and depth. They slightly irritate my right knee, but nothing major and it's probably just a sign of weakness in the area. It looks like I will be bringing back gear the week of 6/3 and I might be switching some stuff around, but nothing definitive yet.
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    Chucks or oly shoes for the oly squats?

    Lilly's shirted template is calling for ME floor press with 3 chains...I'll see how that goes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sean1332 View Post
    Chucks or oly shoes for the oly squats?

    Lilly's shirted template is calling for ME floor press with 3 chains...I'll see how that goes.
    Chuck's.
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    5/6 Upper

    OHP
    135x8
    145x6
    145x5
    135x9

    Kroc Rows
    145x19 PR!

    Incline DB Press
    70x10x2
    80x7

    Rolling Ex/Side Laterals
    35x10x3/35x12x3

    Facepulls/DB Curls/Pullaparts (mini)
    100x10/45x8/15
    100x10/45x7/15

    I'm really hitting my stride and getting everything back to full bore. I finally set a new PR on Kroc's after setting my mind that I would do so on this day. One thing I have really noticed is the weakness in my right biceps and I have to fix that as I know it is a partial culprit to my impingement.
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    145x19 holy crap. Nicely done.

    I hope you had a Cinco de Mayo beer, considering you're in Texas...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sean1332 View Post
    145x19 holy crap. Nicely done.

    I hope you had a Cinco de Mayo beer, considering you're in Texas...
    My wife is Mexican...of course I did some celebrating.
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    Man, your rows are ridiculous. I am loving the Kroc rows myself.
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    I took a look at the calendar last night and drew up a tentative schedule for the other stuff. I'm not using tren for this round. It took too much out of my cardio and I didn't get much out of it in strength terms. I was debating on using NPP again, but I'm not really ready to commit to ED pinning again for awhile. The verdict is to bring back 1T cyp with lose dose E to stave off lethargy and keep libido up. Depending on how that all goes, I might throw in some dbol the final month before the meet.

    I've also decided that 198 is off the table for now. I'm on the road too much right now to have a stringent fat loss diet and would rather focus on recomping and filling out my frame to be a bigger 220. If I can get to a solid 230, I'll be stoked, but its not as important as making sure I stay healthy and keep my leverages.
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    I was I could do that fun stuff..

    You're already a solid dude. You'd be a monster at a big lean 220.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sean1332 View Post
    I was I could do that fun stuff..

    You're already a solid dude. You'd be a monster at a big lean 220.
    I figured I'll take advantage if it while I can. The main reason I'm staying at 220 is I'm unsure how my gear would fit me if I dropped to 198. My shirt would most likely be fine, but my briefs would be too big, which is what you need to have be the tightest piece of gear.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rodja View Post

    I figured I'll take advantage if it while I can. The main reason I'm staying at 220 is I'm unsure how my gear would fit me if I dropped to 198. My shirt would most likely be fine, but my briefs would be too big, which is what you need to have be the tightest piece of gear.
    Ah that makes sense. Luckily for me I guess, my gear is forcing me to lean out some. Not a bad thing, my clothes will fit again.

    I hear ya on that though. Would hate to drop 500+ bucks just because you lost 20lbs.
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    What does D-bol bring to the table if you don't mind me asking?
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    Quote Originally Posted by AZMIDLYF View Post
    What does D-bol bring to the table if you don't mind me asking?
    Lots of strength and mass.
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    Where do I sign?? Lol Looks like I need to start researching.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AZMIDLYF View Post
    Where do I sign?? Lol Looks like I need to start researching.
    There's a reason it's an extremely popular steroid: it works.

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    Word. I waited way too long to try it out. It's not a sexy pick, but it freaking works.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rodja View Post
    There's a reason it's an extremely popular steroid: it works.



    Word. I waited way too long to try it out. It's not a sexy pick, but it freaking works.
    I'm going to mini-rant, so please excuse...I personally think it's a f'n awesome pick. People under-educate yet manage to over-think AAS, and it drives me INSANE. Stacking multiple methylated orals, multiple estered test (no, not a fan, pick one and go), and looking for a "better" way. It's all been done. Pick a setup, use it, and f'n TRAIN.

    I love dbol/Anadrol + a long estered test for damn near anybody doing a cycle. It'll get you big, get you strong, and there's virtually no way to f it up.

    Sorry, dude. Love your log, love your gear choice, and I'll delete that if you like.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Swanson52 View Post

    I'm going to mini-rant, so please excuse...I personally think it's a f'n awesome pick. People under-educate yet manage to over-think AAS, and it drives me INSANE. Stacking multiple methylated orals, multiple estered test (no, not a fan, pick one and go), and looking for a "better" way. It's all been done. Pick a setup, use it, and f'n TRAIN.

    I love dbol/Anadrol + a long estered test for damn near anybody doing a cycle. It'll get you big, get you strong, and there's virtually no way to f it up.

    Sorry, dude. Love your log, love your gear choice, and I'll delete that if you like.
    I have no problem with the rant. While I enjoy dabbling in different combinations, I realize that the most important part is still to train your ass off. If people spent 1/10 the time that they do in the anabolics section looking at training, they'd actually get somewhere instead of treading water.
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    I agree totally with the previous post^^^ If they would spend as much time and effort on the right diet, training, and recovery as they do on all the supps/gear they would be so ahead of the game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rodja View Post
    I have no problem with the rant. While I enjoy dabbling in different combinations, I realize that the most important part is still to train your ass off. If people spent 1/10 the time that they do in the anabolics section looking at training, they'd actually get somewhere instead of treading water.
    I think dabbling is good too...it's these crazy, 8 compound cycles that make my brain hurt. No, you don't need cyp, prop, a dbol kicker into a 5 week run of winstrol, tapering off with 8 weeks of Anavar.

    I mean, if you don't dabble, you'll never optimize your own cycles.
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    5/7 Lower

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    405x3x3

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    325x4

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    255x7

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    80x15/40x10
    85x15/40x10
    95x10/40x10

    I had to cram in my schedule since I have a roadtrip this week. Training 4 out of 5 days was a bit of a kick in the balls, but I got through it and really hammered this day. I'm getting better on the Oly squats, but still fixing the kinks in my hips before I can really push myself on them. I'll get back to wide squatting once I get back in briefs, but that won't be until after National's on 5/18 in Detroit and then I'll start figuring out when to suit up. I'm definitely going to do more work with the straps up this time compared to last as I didn't feel comfortable with them during the meet.
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    Are you competing 5/18? Standard bar for the GM's? I feel like the cambered bar spoiled me.

    I got my suit on today just to figure out how to get it on quickly to limit wasting time in the gym tomorrow. Put the straps up and realized how miserable that is....goin straps down for a while here..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sean1332 View Post
    Are you competing 5/18? Standard bar for the GM's? I feel like the cambered bar spoiled me.

    I got my suit on today just to figure out how to get it on quickly to limit wasting time in the gym tomorrow. Put the straps up and realized how miserable that is....goin straps down for a while here..
    No, one of the guys and I share share squat/deadlift equipment and he's competing on 5/18. I used the standard bar since it was already loaded and I was feeling too lazy to get the cambered bar.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rodja View Post

    No, one of the guys and I share share squat/deadlift equipment and he's competing on 5/18. I used the standard bar since it was already loaded and I was feeling too lazy to get the cambered bar.
    Ah I got ya.
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