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    I think I may start throwing in some fasted cardio. Now, as it sits, I hit snooze a few times and I get up and am sleepy. I'm in bed regular time but it have no reason to wake up and get my day going, so I don't.

    May sound odd but 30min in the morning (not on leg days) can only help body composition. I think I'll start this Tuesday
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    Fasted cardio on lift days too? Or just off days?
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    Hey congrats on the rep gig man need to catch up on your thread just wanted to say that first
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    Quote Originally Posted by masonmarin18
    Fasted cardio on lift days too? Or just off days?
    Probably every day but leg day, may even do it on leg day. I'm pretty anal about my routines. It may turn out to be easier to do mon-fri, as long as performance lifting doesn't suffer.

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    Hey congrats on the rep gig man need to catch up on your thread just wanted to say that first
    Thanks matty!
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    Hmm yeah I was thinking about this as well. The idea behind fasted cardio you use fat stores as energy, so even if you end up in a caloric surplus later that day you still burned some fat while u were fasted right. So doing so could possibly keep you pretty lean during a bulk.. I was thinking of adding it on my lift days but I wasn't sure if I would split it into am pm or just lift right after the cardio.
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    Quote Originally Posted by masonmarin18
    Hmm yeah I was thinking about this as well. The idea behind fasted cardio you use fat stores as energy, so even if you end up in a caloric surplus later that day you still burned some fat while u were fasted right. So doing so could possibly keep you pretty lean during a bulk.. I was thinking of adding it on my lift days but I wasn't sure if I would split it into am pm or just lift right after the cardio.
    One thing Donte has said about DC, eat like you're 250 and do cardio like you're 8%. Maybe not exactly those words but similar.

    Yes, with carb cut offs, that's the idea. Old school train of thought b
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    Quote Originally Posted by Distilled Water

    One thing Donte has said about DC, eat like you're 250 and do cardio like you're 8%. Maybe not exactly those words but similar.

    Yes, with carb cut offs, that's the idea. Old school train of thought b
    I thought morning (fasted) walks were the only DC approved cardio? Not being argumentative at all just curious...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valdez
    I thought morning (fasted) walks were the only DC approved cardio? Not being argumentative at all just curious...
    Post workout cardio is approved (in contest prep 2 my knowledge). Youre right, Fasted LISS is the preferred method of cardio, for sure.

    I had only been doing afternoon cardio on off days and fasted on weekends. I'm looking at going exclusively fasted cardio for a while.
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    Yo bro, ever thought about trying Clenviscerate? Specially for the abs o.O?? I wanna hear your take on this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valdez View Post
    I thought morning (fasted) walks were the only DC approved cardio? Not being argumentative at all just curious...
    It is, if I ever do cardio it fasted, although I have not been doing it on my weight lifting days.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Celorza
    Yo bro, ever thought about trying Clenviscerate? Specially for the abs o.O?? I wanna hear your take on this.
    Nope, trying this DermaTherm now is the first I've messed with Topicals in a while. Other than that, its extremely limited. It's been about 2 weeks on DermaTherm, so far nothing crazy (I think, I'll measure and take pics Tuesday)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Distilled Water View Post
    Nope, trying this DermaTherm now is the first I've messed with Topicals in a while. Other than that, its extremely limited. It's been about 2 weeks on DermaTherm, so far nothing crazy (I think, I'll measure and take pics Tuesday)
    Never tried dermatherm honestly, last time I had a good noticeable six pack was thanks to a combo of:

    Oxy Elite Pro + Erase + Alpha T2 + Eviscerate Smolder

    So thought I could give it a try if push comes to shove and I have trouble getting rid of the little fat deposits my "lean" bulk left me with.


    Looking forward to knowing your honest opinion on DermaTherm Mr.USP! !!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Celorza

    Never tried dermatherm honestly, last time I had a good noticeable six pack was thanks to a combo of:

    Oxy Elite Pro + Erase + Alpha T2 + Eviscerate Smolder

    So thought I could give it a try if push comes to shove and I have trouble getting rid of the little fat deposits my "lean" bulk left me with.

    Looking forward to knowing your honest opinion on DermaTherm Mr.USP! !!
    Haha this guy ^^^^^

    Not a bad plan, I want a 6 pack without flexing. That's the goal with this DermaTherm and my recomp. Looking at another 6 weeks maybe, there's a lot in the bottle. I'm going to recomp until I out of DermaTherm.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Distilled Water View Post
    Haha this guy ^^^^^

    Not a bad plan, I want a 6 pack without flexing. That's the goal with this DermaTherm and my recomp. Looking at another 6 weeks maybe, there's a lot in the bottle. I'm going to recomp until I out of DermaTherm.
    Dermatherm has the same carrier as eviscerate if I am not mistaken , add 40mcg of clen twice daily at some point...2 days on and 2 days off haha, so says the Clenviscerate Bible:

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    That could yield a good un-flexed six pack!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Celorza

    Dermatherm has the same carrier as eviscerate if I am not mistaken , add 40mcg of clen twice daily at some point...2 days on and 2 days off haha, so says the Clenviscerate Bible:

    <img src="http://anabolicminds.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=67 662"/>

    That could yield a good un-flexed six pack!
    Normally, I'd jump on it. However, Matt hooked this up so I wanna give feedback of just the DermaTherm.
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    Cut out lactose this week. No more cheese for me. My diet has also changed a bit. Just food choices but I'll stay on this for about another 2 weeks then change food choices again. It's actually similar to Palumbo Diet, no shakes though.

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    3 cups broccoli
    2 tbs EVOO (cooked food in)

    Meal 4:
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    Meal 5:
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    4 cups spinach w 2tbs olive & vinagar
    2 cups broccoli

    Meal 6:
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    Quote Originally Posted by Distilled Water View Post
    Normally, I'd jump on it. However, Matt hooked this up so I wanna give feedback of just the DermaTherm.
    Oh I didn't know , I'm all up for respecting when someone sponsors me too! You finish this , and then we run a run of Clenviscerate later or DermaClen and see how it treats us hahaha and who gets better abs xD
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    Quote Originally Posted by Celorza

    Oh I didn't know , I'm all up for respecting when someone sponsors me too! You finish this , and then we run a run of Clenviscerate later or DermaClen and see how it treats us hahaha and who gets better abs xD
    Deal!!!!!
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    Workout B2


    Seated DB curls
    40x21RP

    Rev Grip EZ curls
    75x11SS

    Hack calf raise
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    ISO-Leg curl
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    Smith Front squat
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    Puuuuuke! Well almost, lot of dry heaves though.
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    30min of cardio and feeling awesome!!!


    LISS of course
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    Sweet. May want to pick your brain about some dc stuff at some point
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    Quote Originally Posted by mattys4
    Sweet. May want to pick your brain about some dc stuff at some point
    Heck yeah! With frank in here too, you've got all bases covered with DC.

    30min LISS cardio this morning, feeling great. I think I may keep this up indefinitely. Starts my work day off better & should assure staying "lean" year round.

    First round of DC workout A will commence today & means switching shoulder exercises back to pressing!!!!!
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    Yo, I didn't know the switcharoo to DC was happening. What a coincidence ... I was kind of planning on doing the same thing as well! I just need to figure out gym/training partner situation first.
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    I don't use a training partner anymore, mostly bc they suck.


    Only a few ppl I've ever trained with are good workout partners, only 1 that bought into DC. Thank goodness my gym has a lot of hammer strength, smith machines & cages.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Distilled Water
    I don't use a training partner anymore, mostly bc they suck.

    Only a few ppl I've ever trained with are good workout partners, only 1 that bought into DC. Thank goodness my gym has a lot of hammer strength, smith machines & cages.
    Hammer strength and power racks are the way to go man i could never find a trainer partner that was commited. Except the wife but we do completely different routines
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    Thing is, I only really need a spotter for 3 lifts: incline bench, decline bench, and sometimes close grip bench (concentric failure on tricep work is not pretty, LOL). I can definitely find a way around the CGBP, like using the smith, but I'd still like to do those other 2 movements in my routine without a smith machine.
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    Please tell me what LISS means? lol
    I have wondered this the entire time.
    Just gonna go ahead and look dumb and ask.
    Here is my loghttp://anabolicminds.com/forum/supplement-reviews-logs/216779-bigguy-vs-wilpit.htmlhttp://supplementreviews.com/users/mhseaver670/reviews
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    Quote Originally Posted by bigguyn10ec View Post
    Please tell me what LISS means? lol
    I have wondered this the entire time.
    Just gonna go ahead and look dumb and ask.
    Low Intensity Steady State cardio.
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    thats what I thought. lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Distilled Water View Post
    I don't use a training partner anymore, mostly bc they suck.


    Only a few ppl I've ever trained with are good workout partners, only 1 that bought into DC. Thank goodness my gym has a lot of hammer strength, smith machines & cages.
    I wish mine had a few cages. I could do everything without anyone's help. ... The way I like it to be honest.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bigguyn10ec View Post
    Please tell me what LISS means? lol
    I have wondered this the entire time.
    Just gonna go ahead and look dumb and ask.
    low intensity steady state
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    Workout A3


    Hammer Flat Iso Bench
    230x16RP

    Hammer Lateral Raise
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    Skull Crusher
    *fail, my shoulder felt weird so I switched to reverse grip bench.

    Hammer Lat Pull Down
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    I'm gonna hate life 2maro.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Torobestia View Post
    Thing is, I only really need a spotter for 3 lifts: incline bench, decline bench, and sometimes close grip bench (concentric failure on tricep work is not pretty, LOL). I can definitely find a way around the CGBP, like using the smith, but I'd still like to do those other 2 movements in my routine without a smith machine.
    Like others have said, why not just do those in a power rack/cage? Honestly it is better because you can set the bench angle to more subtle angles VS the extremely steep incline/decline on most bench stations. I love doing some low incline/low decline presses.

    Nice low incline like this(but in the cage)
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?list=PL...yer_detailpage
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    Quote Originally Posted by Frank Reynolds
    Like others have said, why not just do those in a power rack/cage? Honestly it is better because you can set the bench angle to more subtle angles VS the extremely steep incline/decline on most bench stations. I love doing some low incline/low decline presses.

    Nice low incline like this(but in the cage)
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?list=PL...yer_detailpage
    Yeah, my incline smith isn't traditional incline. Slightly lower angle but bar is over my throat more. Kills upper chest & is less strain on my shoulders.
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    I was in bed and asleep by 8 pm, thanks a lot deaslifts. At least it saved me the horror of watching papa grande blow a 3 run lead.
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    I took 12.5mg of ephedra this morning, holy crap! I forgot how strong this stuff is ok Keto. No/low insulin=stims on steroids! Nothing there to slow em down....

    May buy some test strips for my blood sugar meter, curious to see blood levels on keto.
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    Dont know about blod sugar but ephedrine will decrease blood pressure.... honestly good for any cycle...
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    Quote Originally Posted by madds87
    Dont know about blod sugar but ephedrine will decrease blood pressure.... honestly good for any cycle...
    I was talking about stimulants having a Steiner affect when blood sugar is low.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Distilled Water

    I was talking about stimulants having a Steiner affect when blood sugar is low.
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