[762mm]

Good evening Shayz. Were, or are you still taking cycle assist ? I saw your bloodwork results, which are very comperable to mine. My test levels were lowered to 142. / AST 55 / ALT 79 and Bilirubin is 0.2. I compared the both of our bloodwork results are our numbers are not to far off from eachother. I dont know how to post my work or i would proudly display them.

The question for the cycle assist is because I never used it during my cycle of M1,4ADD for 4 weeks and then Superdrone LV for two weeks after, making for a six week cycle.

GOD i loved the gains!!!!!! And i still have a several month supply, but am also holding up until i can bring my liver back to normal. If you were using cycle assist, and i was not, yet we have the near same blood results, should in theory cycle assist can be questioned? Im just wondering because I nearly purchased 2 of the 240caps bottles. Any thought please!!

Thanks and Good Day !

[ShayZ]

Good evening Shayz. Were, or are you still taking cycle assist ? I saw your bloodwork results, which are very comperable to mine. My test levels were lowered to 142. / AST 55 / ALT 79 and Bilirubin is 0.2. I compared the both of our bloodwork results are our numbers are not to far off from eachother. I dont know how to post my work or i would proudly display them.

The question for the cycle assist is because I never used it during my cycle of M1,4ADD for 4 weeks and then Superdrone LV for two weeks after, making for a six week cycle.

GOD i loved the gains!!!!!! And i still have a several month supply, but am also holding up until i can bring my liver back to normal. If you were using cycle assist, and i was not, yet we have the near same blood results, should in theory cycle assist can be questioned? Im just wondering because I nearly purchased 2 of the 240caps bottles. Any thought please!!

Thanks and Good Day !

When was your bloodwork done into the cycle? Was that 2.5 weeks in as well or at the end?

I am still taking 8 pills a day of cycle assist

Everyones different though. Cycle assist is for liver, acne, blood pressure, etc. Not just for liver care.
I will agree though, I dont think its worked as well as I had hoped. I have bought some Himalaya Livercare and been using it since Saturday. Ill get blood test a week after cycles over, so we'll see if that worked better.


You also used much stronger PH's than me, so you've got a good liver it looks lol.

[762mm]

Good Morning ShayZ!
I had my blood work done at the last day of my cycle. My blood pressure was is great standings, and acne? Well i have always had moderate to heavy acne since I was 13, and being now 32, I just dont worry about acne anymore, but it was the liver helping agent in cycle assist that drew me to it. Please let me know how that Himalaya Livercare works out. I am overzealous to start another cycle, but will be wise about it for sure. I have also been looking into a product called Liv-R Clear (spelled just in that way) and curious about that product.

I would love to find a great liver protectant !!

[ShayZ]

H Drol Cycle: Day 22 - (Overall: 36 days)

Diet
Strawberries (50 Cals)
Banana (120 Cals)
1.5 Scoops Allmax Whey (165 Cals)
8 Ounces milk (80 Cals)
Calories: 415

Protein Pancakes
2 Eggs (140 Cals)
1 Cup of Rolled Oats (300 Cals)
1 Banana (120 Cals)
2 Tbsp Honey (120 Cals)
Calories: 680

1 Powerade Protein Bar (210 Cals)
2 Slices Whole Wheat bread (100 Cals)
5 Ounces Deli Ham (150 Cals)
1/3 Cup of Nuts and Raisins (220 Cals)
Calories: 680

PreWorkout
1 Scoop On Hydrowhey (140 Cals)
Calories: 140

Postworkout
1 Scoop Ergoenix Aftermath (153 Cals)
1 Banana (120 Cals)
Calories: 273

Postworkout Meal
2 Fajita Tacos with Chicken breast
No cheese, No sour creams.
Onions, tomato.
Calories: 600?

Dinner:
Shrimp Taco on Whole Wheat Tortilla (350 Cals)
Some Granola Nut Clusters (60 Cals)
Calories: 410

Presleep
8 Ounces Skim Milk (80 Cals)
1 Scoop On Casein (120 Cals)
Calories: 200

Total Calories: 3395
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Workout
Wow... Tried to switch the routine up a tiny bit.

Flat Dumbbell Bench
40 x 15
60 x 3
65 x 3
70 x 3
75 x 3
80 x 3
85 x 3
90 x 3 (Last week this was hard, easy peezy this week)
95 x 3 PR! - (little sloppy, but did em!)

Seated Military Press
Never done these before. After the 3rd set it just felt too uncomfortable.
Im use to dumbbells and going towards my ear, with the bar you have to go forward, so i kept almost grazing the front of my face.
45 x 12
65 x 8
95 x 6

Shoulder Dumbbell Press
65 x 6
65 x 6
So... I told my workout partner to come and help me cause I wouldn't be able to get the 70's up... I was like Ill likely need a little push and probably only get 5 reps, if that....
70 x 10! PR - UNASSISTED!
Got them up EASY! Like I had been doing it for years... I was even talking during the set telling him how I was shocked lol. I talked literally thru the entire set, wasnt even breathing right and busted ut 10 reps easy! Never even put the 70's up before lol.

Incline Bench Press
Now, i dont really use barbells for any type of bench, but my workout partner wanted to do Incline Bench today... Last time I did it was a LONG time ago... Maybe did 135 x 8. So i wont call any of these PR's, but it felt good putting up the numbers I did.
135 x 10
155 x 8
175 x 6
185 x 3 (prob had 1-2 more in me)

Bent Over Barbell Rows
135 x 8
145 x 5
155 x 5
165 x 5
175 x 5
185 x 5 (PR!)

Overall fantastic workout today!

Still no sides, knocking on wood again. Well acne definitely increased. Ive been washing my face 3 times a day and I still get 2-3 new whiteheads every morning. Also acne on my butt, thigh, back, lol. Not crazy but theres some.

[ShayZ]

H Drol Cycle: Day 24 - (Overall: 38 days)

Diet

Didn't log, but here's a couple things I ate. yes Im aware my steak was overcooked.
Scallops and Potatoes. Steak and Brown rice. I had already eaten like 5-6 of the scallops.

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Workout

Well, I potentially messed up my knee, but we shall see... The center of my knee was hurting around the 225 squats, and I really shouldnt have kept going.
It hurt mildly doing Good mornings, quite a bit on the lower portion of Calf raises, and it hurt doing the leg curls. FML.

I took an ice bath and the pains still there. Not bad, I mean I can walk up stairs and I dont feel it at all, but as soon as I apply pressure.... UGH!

Barbell Squats
45 x 10
135 x 10
185 x 5
205 x 3
215 x 3
225 x 3
235 x 3 (PR)
245 x 3 (PR) - (horrible pain on all 3 reps)
I could've easily done 255, and I know I could've, but just said No. I Should've stopped at 225 when the pain started, damnit!

Good Mornings
115 x 8
135 x 6
145 x 5
155 x 5
165 x 5 (PR)

Kneeling Leg Curls
80 x 8
90 x 6
100 x 6
110 x 6
120 x 5

Seated Calf Raise
180 x 10 x 2
Pain just too much, Im done.

Only Cardio was walking my dogs.
I can only hope this gets better. Think ill skip leg day this Sunday and switch the routine up a bit for hypertrophy.

Maybe a Chest/Shoulders Day. Arms day, and a Back day? Dunno. Im so mad right now though.

[votum]

Nice PRs mate! Sorry about the pain, you taking cissus or anything of the sort?

[stxnas]

Hey! Great to see you over here at AM. I would have joined in sooner had I realized you had another log going.

[ShayZ]

Nice PRs mate! Sorry about the pain, you taking cissus or anything of the sort?

I take 2 tabs a day of extra strength glucosamine and condroitn. I figured thats enough? What do you feel? Ill be OK I feel though, I might need to lay off the legs for 2 weeks though. Ill figure it out next week =/

Hey! Great to see you over here at AM. I would have joined in sooner had I realized you had another log going.

No problem! Im probably gonna buy some HGHPro Soon, prob after this PCT is over. Or maybe during cause I heard Nolva makes it hard to sleep sometimes =/

[Gonzo14]

No problem! Im probably gonna buy some HGHPro Soon, prob after this PCT is over. Or maybe during cause I heard Nolva makes it hard to sleep sometimes =/

I recommend during PCT, so you can keep/continue gains through PCT, also aid in losing any extra BF gained during the cycle. just IMO.

[votum]

Yeah if there is such a thing I would consider labelling HGHPro as a wonder drug lol...it literally has tons of positive benefits, and I can't recall ever seeing a negative to it. It's my favorite

HGHPro + nyquil and benadryl = best sleep ever.

[ShayZ]

Switched the routine up due to the injured knee.

Did Chest and Shoulders today...

Back tomorrow. Bis and Tris Sunday Or I might do Bis and Back tomorrow and then triceps and abs Sunday. Very weird setup, but meh.

Ill likely keep off leg excercises next week as well. I should be able to mantain the muscle just eating, but I guess well find out 2 weeks from now when I do legs again. I just dont wanna risk injuring it.

Excercises

Incline DB Bench
40 x 15
75 x 8 x 2
80 x 8 (PR!)

Shoulder DB Press
40 x 12
65 x 8 x 3
Supersetted with
Front Raises
30 x 10 x 3

Ez Bar Upright Rows
60 x 10
70 x 10 x 2 (PR!)

Incline DB Fly
35 x 10
40 x 8

DB Fly
40 x 8

Hammer Strength iso Lateral Decline Press
90 x 10
140 x 8
180 x 6 x 2

Flat barbell Bench Warmdown
135 10

DB Shrugs
80 x 8 x 3
Was working on Grip so I held the DB's for 20 seconds after the end of each set.

[ShayZ]

Well yesterday i did Back and Biceps. I think my biceps are my weak point as I dont really go up in weight on them at all. But I for the first time ever did Bicep Dropsets yesterday, and for 4-5 hours post workout my Bis were still tight. In fact when I flexed my bicep on either arm it was REALLY tight, and almost hurt lol. So hopefully I found what makes them grow.

Excercises

Hammer Curl
20 x 15
35 x 10 x 2
40 x 6
Dropset to
30 x 8

EZ Curl bar preacher Curls
40 x 10
75 x 10
75 x 9 x 2

Sated Alternating DB Curls
35 x 8 x 3
Dropset to
30 x 8

DB Incline Curl
30 x 10
35 x 7
35 x 6
Dropset to
30 x 6

Wide Grip lat Pulldown
140 x 10
155 x 8
170 x 8 (PR)

Dual Pulley Low Row
80 x 10
90 x 10

Pullups
2 Sets of 10

Close Grip Plams In Lat Pulldown
130 x 10
145 x 10
160 x 10 (PR)

Hyperextensions
45 x 10 x 2
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Today is the last dosing of H Drol

[Gonzo14]

I think my biceps are my weak point as I dont really go up in weight on them at all.

no Barbell curls? very different from DB curls believe it or not. If you wanna add size and strength to your bi's def. consider adding those in. Also i've found that arm's grow best with high rep high intensity short rest workouts, hit them and get out kinda deal.
just food for thought.
solid gains, looks like you had one hell of a ride, interested to see final stats.

[votum]

Yeah arms are like legs imo, high reps work better, which means dropsets work great. I have no clue what a drop set is anymore after someone mention stripper runs, which sound like what I do as drop sets, but meh.

I like picking a heavy weight for db curls, busting out as much as i can, and then going to grab the next lower size, and do that to failure until I hit the lowest db. You look AWESOME hitting failure with a 5 or 2 lb db lol.

And second for bb curl, it's completely different, kinda weird.

[ShayZ]

Top part is the precycle pics, bottom is post cycle

I gained some fat as my stomach at belly button went from 34.5 to 35.5 inches.

173 to 187 in 4 weeks at 3500 cals a day avg.

PCT started today. Nolva went down easily. No sides to report yet.

Ill post an initial review of H Drol by tomorrow.

[votum]

Looks good man, chest/arms/back look a bit fuller and I don't notice a change to comp, so that means it was all muscle, well done !

Actually on a second look it looks like some belly fat is gone. Even more well done!

[ShayZ]

Looks good man, chest/arms/back look a bit fuller and I don't notice a change to comp, so that means it was all muscle, well done !

Actually on a second look it looks like some belly fat is gone. Even more well done!

there was some fat gained i think. Belly went from 34.5 to 35.5

[chocolatemilk]

Looks good man back is wider shoulders and arms are fuller and you look bigger all around congrats! now the real games begin haha

[ShayZ]

Looks good man back is wider shoulders and arms are fuller and you look bigger all around congrats! now the real games begin haha

well today was my first workout back...

I set 3 new PR's, lawl. PRs in PCT, and they were LEGIT prs too. Ill post em later.

Im getting an X ray on my right knee tomorrow though. I have a bad feeling I tore my ACL or miniscus... I cant even do a BW squat... Walk fine, run fine, cant squat BW to save my life.

[Gonzo14]

well today was my first workout back...

I set 3 new PR's, lawl. PRs in PCT, and they were LEGIT prs too. Ill post em later.

Im getting an X ray on my right knee tomorrow though. I have a bad feeling I tore my ACL or miniscus... I cant even do a BW squat... Walk fine, run fine, cant squat BW to save my life.

keep killin it through PCT
good luck with your knee, I hope its nothing major.

[ShayZ]

H Drol PCT: Day 2 - (Overall: 43 days)

Diet
Not logged, but really clean. About 3200 cals is my guess.

Total Calories:
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Workout
STRENGTH GAINS IN PCT!!!!

Flat Dumbbell Bench
Barbell warmup 65 x 25
DB's
80 x 5
85 x 4
90 x 4
95 x 6 (PR!)
SO Easy to push those up. 95 x 3 last week as actually assisted and I was dying trying it. Today I didn't even kick them up because my knees in pain. So i brought them to my chest slowly, and pushed up from there! Considered trying the 100's, but Im taking it easy on my knee.
Heading to my doctor tomorrow to get an X ray on my knee. Im thinking I mightve torn my meniscus honestly...

Seated DB Shoulder Press
50 x 8
65 x 5 x 2
70 x 6
Ok, not a PR here, but if you guys remember 2-3 weeks ago I complained about these weird seats that curved upwards, well this gym used the same seats. And I got 70's on them, so thats HUGE since I couldnt do 60s or 65's last time on the same seat.

Incline Dumbbell Bench Press
75 x 6
80 x 6
85 x 5 (Last rep was ssisted) PR!
The guy next to me before I started my set was like "u sure u gott hat big guy?"
I told him I had never tried before and wasnt sure, so he offered a spot and I said sure. I kind of did a forced rep for the 5th one, but it felt good. The dude forced me to squeeze the Dumbbells at the top, , im use to just pressing em up, and going down. He told me to bring them together which required a hell of a lot more effort.

Bent over BB Row
No PR here, but thats cause I thought I had 195 on the bar... FML, so I didnt bother going up cause I was happy with my last set. Whoops!
135 x 10
155 x 6
175 x 6
185 x 5

Skullcrushers Supersetted with CG Bench Press
70 x 6 for both
60 x 8 for both

Spider Curls
Never did these before.
55 x 10
75 x 6
75 x 6

Incline Curls
35 x 6
Dropset to
25 x 10

Overall fantastic workout today!

Nolva Sides
Had a hard time sleeping last night, woke up 5-6 times. other than that its all good.

[stxnas]

Good job on setting a couple of PRs...while in PCT

[Gonzo14]

question, which I dont know if you answered already i'm being lazy and dont feel like searching, but is the Nolva just for safe measure? or are you vulnerable to gyno?

[ShayZ]

question, which I dont know if you answered already i'm being lazy and dont feel like searching, but is the Nolva just for safe measure? or are you vulnerable to gyno?

Its for safe measures. No idea on gyno as ive never cycled before.

[Gonzo14]

Its for safe measures. No idea on gyno as ive never cycled before.

fair enough. I've seen a lot of people run it JIC lately, gyno isn't something i'd wanna play with personally. Are the family jewels accounted for?

[ShayZ]

fair enough. I've seen a lot of people run it JIC lately, gyno isn't something i'd wanna play with personally. Are the family jewels accounted for?

Yea, they never really shrunk. I have no problem getting it up, libido is fine.

[ShayZ]

I forgot to bring ym log book to the gym the day I planned to log what I did lol!

I tried squatting again after 2 weeks. Did 135 and 185 sets no biggy.
I tried 225 and bam knee pain came back, so I stopped after 1 rep.
I wanted to do deadlifts next but didnt wanna injure my knee so I went with rack pulls from the knees.
135 x 10
225 x 8
315 x 6
365 x 6 (straps)
405 x 6 (straps)
455 x 6 (straps)

Depending on knee next week Ill either try a 405 deadlift or a 495 rack pull.

Did some calf excercises, leg extensions and leg curls as well as hip adductor machine. Im somewhat limited due to my knee, but just trying to mantain the gains.

The 225 was damn easy for the 1 rep, and I went ATG, but the knee was just in pain after the rep. Fuking blows.

[chocolatemilk]

That sucks bro. You planning any more blood tests?

[ShayZ]

That sucks bro. You planning any more blood tests?

yea, next week and at the end of 6 weeks pct.

[ShayZ]

Just to update you guys.... read my quote as well as its from my other forum i post at

Very nervous unfortunately

Last week I said I had mild stomach pains.
They went away and came back the past 4-5 days.
Im literally scared to take the Nolva.
Why?
I googled left side stomach pains, and one of the 5 main causes is Hepatitis C.
How is Hep C caused? Liver problems....
Hep C symptons include yellowing of skin and eyes, nausea, tiredness, darkened urine etc.
NONE of those apply to me, except for mild dull left side stomach pains.

Hep C is caused my an enlarged liver organ...

I told my mom, a nurse practitioner that I had been having these mild stomach aches. She immediately said, if anything is bad you will have enlarged organs, so let me check.

She checked my stomach for a few minutes, feeling around, having me breathe, etc. She said she didnt feel any enlargment of my organs.

Regardless, ive ordered some bloods, and will have them today.
Hep C usually shows very elevated AST and ALT levels, but it also said sometimes they show as normal, FML. So even if I get normal bloods back, I might still be sick.

I had my mom do a check on my throat to see if I had any swelling, she checked my lymph nodes, she said it all seemed fine.
It could be in my head, but I dunno. She said all seems normal.

Just ordered both hep B and Hep C Blood test.
Both are liver diseases. As soon as I get my requisition papers in the next hour or so im heading to get blood drawn, hopefully I get my results by Saturday morning.

Ill save the complete blood test for 2-4 weeks from now.