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    P5's Cut then Bulk w/LG


    This is my very first log so I'll take advice and criticisms!

    I have always been lean and it was difficult to build any muscle unless I ate, ate, ate, and then ate some more. I still drop wt easily from not eating enough while on vacation so I take my tubs of protein EVERYWHERE! I will be cutting through January, then Feb 1 I will start to lean bulk again. I may be inspired to do another mini-cut before summer.

    Age: 40
    HT: 5-7
    WT: 160
    BF: ??

    Supps for this log:
    LG's MMV2- for recomp/cutting/muscle hardening
    LG's M1D- for the lean bulk stage; growth!
    Muscle Pharm Shred Matrix- energy, thermogenesis
    AppNut Neovar- creatine for cell growth and nutrient partitioning
    CL White Blood- NO for the pump/vascularity
    Napalm- for the stubborn mid-section

    Training Split
    M- Cardio AM/PM (typically a morning brisk walk, 40 min and evening is at the gym: 45 min treadmill 15 degree incline @ 3.3 mph)
    T- Chest/Shoulders/Cardio
    W- Cardio AM/PM
    T- Back/Biceps/Cardio
    F- Legs/Triceps
    S- OFF
    S- Cardio AM/PM

    Calories:
    Cut 2600 avg
    Lean Bulk 3200 avg
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    Day 1 01/02/09


    Supps:
    MMV2
    Neovar
    White Blood
    Beta Alanine
    Napalm (1 pump AM/1 pump PM)
    Shred Matrix (1 packet AM)

    Workout- Back/Biceps
    Superset- DB Curls & Hammer Curls
    3 sets 40x10/3 sets 30x10

    Preacher Curls DB
    3x30x10

    DB Rows
    3x10x85

    Wide Grip Pulldowns
    3x150x10

    BB Rows
    3x155x8

    Cardio: 45 min HIIT (3 min low HR/2 min hi HR)

    Energy: I felt ready to go with the MMV2, clean energy no jittery. Cardio was easy even though my iPod died, needs JUICE!

    Pump: First day using NO supp in a couple of years, didnt notice too much yet. My biceps were more vascular while curling, good to see.
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    Day 3 01/04/09


    WT: 164, I am gaining a little over the past days because I lost 5 lbs while being sick last week.

    Supps:
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    Neovar
    White Blood
    Beta Alanine
    Napalm (1 pump AM/1 pump PM)
    Shred Matrix (1 packet AM)

    Workout- Legs/Triceps
    Squats
    4x5x225

    BB Lunge
    2x10x135

    SLDL
    3x10x155

    DB Overhead Press
    3x90x8

    DB Kickbacks
    3x10x25

    Cardio: 20 min low intensity (140 HR). I was exhausted after leg routine, I almost didnt do cardio

    Energy: I felt ready to go but leg day is tough as you all know. That and my Sunday eating habits are lousy, so I wasnt ready for the most part.

    Pump: Okay, nothing to speak of.

    Tomorrow> CARDIO= 45 min
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    Day 4 01/05/09


    WT: 163

    Cardio: 45 min, low intensity jog/walk
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    Day 5 01/06/07


    Supps:[/B]
    MMV2
    Neovar
    White Blood
    Beta Alanine
    Shred Matrix (1 packet AM)

    Workout- Chest/Shoulders
    Incline BB
    225x6
    235x4
    235x4
    135x12

    DB Press/DB Flys
    85x10/40x10
    85x10/40x10
    85x8/40x8

    Superset: LatRaise/Side Raise/Rear Delt Raise
    30x10/30x8/30x12
    30x10/30x8/30x12
    30x10/30x8/30x12

    DB Military
    45x10
    45x10
    45x8

    Cardio: 30 min low HR (130) elliptical. I HATE cardio as most do, but it seems to get easier and easier as long as I avoid the monotony. At least there was the Ball St-Tulsa FB game.

    Energy: I usually feel ready to go as I take MMV2 30-40 min before the gym. Today I had time to spare as my meeting ran late. I felt amped and fidgety but not too bad, just ready to hit the weights. My drive was tough, pumped and ready, almost some road rage!

    Pump: No major pump feel, but did have energy. I don't know how much I will feel from White Blood while taking MMV2. Last time I used it was only Green Bulge/White Blood stack so I felt a difference.
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    Day 6 01/07/09


    WT: 163

    Cardio: 45 min, low intensity jog/walk, approx 2 miles.
    New route with more hills, I walk the uphill (fast walk) and jog the downhill.

    Kind of scary, I am not hating cardio much, it is getting very easy to do and sometimes extend my time. Maybe it is motivating to imagine the results over 4 weeks.
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    Day 7 01/08/09


    Supps:
    MMV2 (1 AM/2 Pre-workout)
    Neovar
    White Blood
    Napalm (1 pump AM/1 pump PM)
    Shred Matrix (1 packet AM)

    Workout- Back/Biceps
    Superset- BB Curls & Hammer Curls
    3 sets 60 (+bar)x7/3 sets 30x10

    Preacher Curls DB
    3x30x12

    DB Rows
    3x10x85

    Wide Grip Pulldowns
    3x150x10

    BB Rows
    3x135x10
    hold for a 2 sec count on contraction

    Cardio: 30 min treadmill, 15 incline @ 3 mph

    Sauna for 10 min.

    Energy: Morning is smooth, no jitters. Preworkout I feel the MMV2 as I get to the gym, not overwhelming but good focus and primed to go.

    Pump: Biceps were killing on the hammer curls as I got to 6-7 reps, had to really work for the last 3. Arms seem bigger, moreprominent bicep vein and in the upper chest/shoulder.
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    Day 8 01/09/09


    WT: 161.5

    Supps:
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    Neovar
    White Blood
    Napalm (1 pump AM/1 pump PM)
    Shred Matrix (1 packet AM)

    Workout- Legs/Triceps
    Squats
    3x8x225

    BB Lunge
    3x10x135

    SLDL
    3x10x135
    Skullcrushers- Superset
    3x60x8 60 lbs + bar)

    DB Kickbacks- Superset
    3x10x25

    Close Grip Bench
    2x105x15
    Havent done these in a while, next time I will go w/135

    Cardio: 10 min low intensity on stationary bike, gym was closing

    Energy: does MMV2 take some time to "feel"? Each day gets better, I was full of energy and wanted to keep going on every set.

    Pump: Legs were great, I increased by squat from last leg day by 3 reps each set and lunges were easier. Triceps were full and tight.

    Tomorrow> CARDIO= 45 min
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    Day 9 01/10/09


    WT: 161.5

    OFF for a rest today, my legs are killing! But it is good to know that I worked 'em hard yesterday.
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    Day 10 01/11/09


    Supps:
    MMV2
    Neovar
    White Blood
    Shred Matrix (1 packet AM)

    Workout- Chest/Shoulders
    Incline BB- dropped the wt and went for more reps
    185x10
    195x8
    204x6
    135x10

    DB Press/DB Flys
    85x8/45x8
    85x8/45x8
    85x8/45x8

    Superset: LatRaise/Side Raise/Rear Delt Raise
    30x10/30x10/45x10
    30x10/30x10/45x10
    30x10/30x10/45x10

    BB Military
    135x10
    135x10
    135x8

    Cardio: 30 min low HR (130) elliptical. I HATE cardio as most do, but it seems to get easier and easier as long as I avoid the monotony.

    Energy: Felt good today, wanted to keep going but don't need to overtrain.

    Pump: Noticing the bicep vein though I didn't work my biceps today. Shoulders felt good with the pre-exhaust on DB before doing BB military.
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    Day 11 01/12/09


    Supps:
    MMV2 (1 AM/2 Pre-workout)
    Neovar
    White Blood
    Napalm (1 pump AM/1 pump PM)
    Shred Matrix (1 packet AM)

    Workout- Back/Biceps
    Superset- BB Curls & Hammer Curls
    3 sets 50 (+bar)x8/3 sets 30x10

    Preacher Curls DB
    2x30x12
    1x12x25

    DB Rows
    3x10x85

    Wide Grip Pulldowns
    3x150x10

    BB Rows
    3x135x10
    hold for a 2 sec count on contraction

    Cardio: 30 min treadmill, 15 incline @ 3 mph
    I was drenched!

    Sauna for 10 min.
    Disgustingly drenched w/sweat

    Energy: I felt good throughout the day, never too jittery and I want to extend the workouts now, but not at the expense of overtraining.

    Pump: Bicep vein is looking gos, shows me some progress. Preacher curls killed, could barely flex at the peak of contraction.
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    Day 12 01/13/09


    Cardio: 2.5 miles fast paced walk, approximately 45 -60 minutes.

    Supps:
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    Neovar

    I may add Inhibit-E (ATD) 25 mg at night to help with estrogen/bloat
    And I have to start tanning this week.
    Progress pics should be up in a couple of days.
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    Quote Originally Posted by p5sky View Post
    Cardio: 2.5 miles fast paced walk, approximately 45 -60 minutes.

    Supps:
    MMV2
    Shred Matrix
    Napalm
    Neovar

    I may add Inhibit-E (ATD) 25 mg at night to help with estrogen/bloat
    And I have to start tanning this week.
    Progress pics should be up in a couple of days.
    nice man! Look forward to some progress pix!
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    Let me know if you need any help with Neovar when time arises. Your incline is pretty good man! keep it up!
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    Quote Originally Posted by TexasLifter89 View Post
    Let me know if you need any help with Neovar when time arises. Your incline is pretty good man! keep it up!
    I'm using original Neovar, got it when on sale for $10! I do have Neovar recomped too.

    Should I eventually eliminate Neo as we get closer to Feb 1? Especially as carb intake goes down.
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    Day 13 01/14/09


    Took today off as my meetings went late and I felt extremely tired . . . actually exhausted.

    Tomorrow is legs/triceps. After the last increases on leg day I am excited to see what I get done tomorrow. I'll also try to get some update pics for the 1/2 way point.
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    Quote Originally Posted by p5sky View Post
    I'm using original Neovar, got it when on sale for $10! I do have Neovar recomped too.

    Should I eventually eliminate Neo as we get closer to Feb 1? Especially as carb intake goes down.
    Its it up to you. I think you should be fine though... I have not heard many cases of heavy water retention while on neovar
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    Day 14 01/15/09


    WT: 161.5

    Supps:
    MMV2 (thinking of uppin to 4: 1 am, 2 pre, 1 post)
    Neovar
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    Napalm (1 pump AM/1 pump PM)
    Shred Matrix (1 packet AM)
    ATD 25 mg PM

    Workout- Legs/Triceps
    Squats
    3x8x225
    1x20x135 rest pause

    BB Lunge
    3x10x135

    Leg Ext
    150x10
    150x8
    100x10
    75x10

    Leg Curls
    3x120x10

    Skullcrushers- Superset
    3x50x10 (50 lbs + bar)

    DB Kickbacks- Superset
    3x10x25

    Close Grip Bench
    2x135x10

    Cardio was not going to happen. Tried to do a walk to loosen up . . . almost fell, tried the bike, no good.
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    You started in pretty good shape and it looks like you're doing great, keep it up!
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    Quote Originally Posted by silverSurfer View Post
    You started in pretty good shape and it looks like you're doing great, keep it up!
    Thanks for stopping by. I have 2 more weeks for cutting, then a nice bulk to add some thickness.

    I cannot wait for izza:, it's been too long since the last indulgence of ice cream, or wine, or PIZZA
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    CraigMatthew, I was thinking of going to 4 MMV2 the next 2 weeks with dosing at
    1-AM
    2-Pre
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    When I add in the M1D I will probably bring it back down to 3/day. I also have Anadraulic State ready to go too. So starting in Feb I will stack:

    MMV2, M1D, Anadraulic State.
    With AS I can drop Neovar & White Blood

    How does that sound?
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    Quote Originally Posted by p5sky View Post
    CraigMatthew, I was thinking of going to 4 MMV2 the next 2 weeks with dosing at
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    1-Post

    When I add in the M1D I will probably bring it back down to 3/day. I also have Anadraulic State ready to go too. So starting in Feb I will stack:

    MMV2, M1D, Anadraulic State.
    With AS I can drop Neovar & White Blood

    How does that sound?
    Sounds killer dude, and similar to what I might run
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    Day 15 01/16/09


    Wt: 160.5

    Supps:
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    Workout- Chest/Shoulders
    Incline BB- dropped the wt and went for more reps
    185x10
    205x7
    205x6
    135x10

    DB Press/DB Flys
    85x8/35x10
    85x7/35x10
    85x6/35x10

    Superset: LatRaise/Side Raise/Rear Delt Raise
    30x10/30x10/35x12
    30x10/30x10/35x12
    30x10/30x10/35x12

    BB Military
    135x10
    135x10
    135x8
    95x20 (behind neck & rest pause)

    Cardio: 45 min treadmill avg 15 incline @ 3.0 mph. Seemed easy today, maybe I took new pics before the workout and wanted to keep the progress going. That and the Laker game was on so I was distracted.

    Energy: Presses were tough because I did triceps yesterday, I usually have a 1-2 day break between tris & chest. So it wasnt so much a lack of energy, but muscle fatigue.

    Pump: Nothing extraordinary, usually dont get much pump on chest/shoulders. Vascularity is increasing in biceps and front of shoulders . . . very exciting.
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    Nice pics man! Quads are impressive!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Craigmatthew View Post
    Nice pics man! Quads are impressive!
    Thanks for the love!! I always thin I have chicken legs but they are gettin there, I am noticing the cuts.

    So you think it will be good to up MMV2 to 4/day at 1-2-1 dosing? I've only got 2 more weeks of the cut then BULK TIME!

    Bulk Supps:
    wk 1- M1D (4)/MMV2 (3)
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    wk 3- M1D (6)/MMV2 (3)
    wk 4- M1D (6)/MMV2 (3)
    wk 5- MMV2 (3)/Psarm (4)
    wk 6- MMV2 (3)/Psarm (4)
    wk 7- MMV2 (3)/Psarm (4)

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    Quote Originally Posted by p5sky View Post
    Thanks for the love!! I always thin I have chicken legs but they are gettin there, I am noticing the cuts.

    So you think it will be good to up MMV2 to 4/day at 1-2-1 dosing? I've only got 2 more weeks of the cut then BULK TIME!

    Bulk Supps:
    wk 1- M1D (4)/MMV2 (3)
    wk 2- M1D (6)/MMV2 (3)
    wk 3- M1D (6)/MMV2 (3)
    wk 4- M1D (6)/MMV2 (3)
    wk 5- MMV2 (3)/Psarm (4)
    wk 6- MMV2 (3)/Psarm (4)
    wk 7- MMV2 (3)/Psarm (4)

    PCT: T911 & Psarm (2-3 weeks)

    How's this? And Anadraulic State throughout cycle & PCT
    Yeah bumping the mmv2 is a possibility, see if it effects you positively, if not..drop it back down.

    That bulk stack looks really good! Similar to mine except I have epi in there as well
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    Day 16 01/17/09


    Wt: 159.5
    this is the lowest I have been in a couple of years. I stay lean but have never done a cut. Over the past 5-6 yrs I stick around 165-170 depending on if I eat enough to grow!

    Cardio today is a 2fer:
    AM-45 min brisk walk with the doggie
    PM-45 min treadmill

    A workout is out of the question! I am hurting all over. Is it the increased cardio? Decreased carbs?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Craigmatthew View Post
    Nice pics man! Quads are impressive!
    Yeah I was thinking the same thing. Good progress so far p5sky, I'm looking forward to the rest of this cut then bulk. :bb3:
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    thanks for checking in carib. I am pleasantly surprised that people notice my legs, but I do see some growth and definition coming in.

    2 more weeks of cutting, it is getting tough. I feel sore all of the time, is that from lowered carbs? Recovery is not as good as when I get to EAT, EAT, EAT.
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    I don't think the increased soreness is due to the cut, more likely it is the result of increased training intensity/volume from the MMV2. Personally I don't get more sore when I'm cutting, just have less energy in the gym usually and get fatigued more easily. Keep it up though, just two weeks to go and then you can start to EAT EAT EAT! You're definitely looking leaner now than at the beginning of your cut so what you're doing is working.
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    Day 17 01/18/09


    Took today OFF!!! I felt lazy and crappy til late afternoon. The I get home and felt like heading to the gym, but the lousy place closes early on Sunday.

    Tomorrow is back and biceps along with cardio AM & PM.
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    This is a really good log. How far are you going to take your cut? Are you just planning on losing some fat so you don't get too fat on your bulk or are you trying to get lean cuts?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Space View Post
    This is a really good log. How far are you going to take your cut? Are you just planning on losing some fat so you don't get too fat on your bulk or are you trying to get lean cuts?
    I decided to participate in the AM Contest so I have a goal to work towards. I didnt gain as much as I hoped throughout Aug, Sept, Oct. Busy sched, illness . . . but I didnt want to quit. I'm trying to come in as lean as possible for the Feb 1 date. I really don't gain much fat, even with a lax diet. I am quite busy daily, always on my feet and moving so that helps.

    Thanks for checking in.
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    Day 18 01/19/09


    WT: 159, my lowest in 6 yrs. I have never done a cut program before. Worked on leaning out but never this regimented

    Supps:
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    Neovar
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    Workout- Back/Biceps
    Superset- BB Curls & Hammer Curls
    1x50 (+bar)x10/30x10
    1x50x8/30x10
    1x45x10/30x8

    Preacher Curls DB
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    1x25x12
    3x20x8

    Wide Grip Pulldowns
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    DB Rows
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    hold for a 2 sec count on contraction

    Hammer Strength Hi Rows
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    Cardio:
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    40 min treadmill, 15 incline @ 3 mph
    I was drenched! I felt like I could keep going, it was nice and easy.

    Sauna for 10 min.
    Disgustingly drenched w/sweat

    Energy: Both weights and cardio are easy, I want to keep going thought I know I shouldn't

    Pump: Biceps were hurtin on the last set of 20, going for the pump and it was there!

    I do have Axis Labs Xtract for the last 5 days to drop water wt . . . anyone have experience with this supp?
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    Day 19 01/20/09


    Supps:
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    Workout- Legs/Triceps
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    BB Single Leg Squat
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    SLDL
    1x135x10
    2x155x10

    Leg Ext
    150x10
    125x8
    100x10
    Double Arm DB Overhead Press- Superset
    3x80x10

    DB Kickbacks- Superset
    3x12x25

    Single Arm Cable/Rope Press
    5x30x8

    Energy: I took MMV2 closer to workout but I felt more energy as I finished squats and went into Single leg squat, just kept pumping out reps. Usually on the last 2-3 I pause for a couple of secs, then finish . . . not today!!

    Pump: Tris were full and hurtin on the kickbacks and rope press. Veins poppin without workin the biceps or shoulders, looks like progress.

    Cardio: Are you kiddin?!? After legs, NO WAY. I will walk the dog later on so I get a little stretch. Legs were already tired for the double cardio yesterday.

    Next 2 days are quite busy at work so I will take off from wts and just do cardio, 45-60 minutes now.
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    Compliments on my legs was great motivation! Just want to get in there and still improve, thanks. What are my weakest areas so that I can focus on those the next few months? I think its my back, no width . . . but my shoulders are not wide so I am at a disadvantage. I hate when I see guys with B R O A D S H O U L D E R S yet they do not even workout, just naturally wide . . . lucky!
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    Quote Originally Posted by p5sky View Post
    Compliments on my legs was great motivation! Just want to get in there and still improve, thanks. What are my weakest areas so that I can focus on those the next few months? I think its my back, no width . . . but my shoulders are not wide so I am at a disadvantage. I hate when I see guys with B R O A D S H O U L D E R S yet they do not even workout, just naturally wide . . . lucky!
    Yeah I got lucky with broad shoulders and pretty big delts...where I lucked out was legs...still skinny, but improving! Glad yours are showing improvements.
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    I actually think that your back is looking a bit thicker since your first pics, so whatever you're doing now is working. I think you should just keep hitting the heavy compound stuff - squats, deads and bench - and see what happens. The lower lats might need some improvement, try throwing in some wide grip pull ups and see what that does for your back. I also don't think your shoulders are bad man, you're starting to get that 'V' shape which is awesome!
  

  
 

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