aaaggghhh holiday time!!!

[warren]

hey guys, ok first off im sorry for the on off veiws, one minuite i bulking the next im cutting oh no wait im bulking again etc etc etc.

but i have not been on a sunny holiday for 5 years due to fear of flying, so this june im 21 and my mam and dad have offered to take me and my gf away on holiday somewhere hot, we leave in 4 weeks this monday. now i have not been on holiday in so long and getting on a lane is a major thing for me, so i want to look better than i do now. im 5'11 and weight varies between 175lbs and 177lbs. i am around 15% bodyfat and have the vague shape of abs comming through. wouls like to drop to say 12% so that my abs are showing and i loose a bit fat esp round the cest and gut.

i know im average weight and wont look out special but i figure id prefer to look average size but low bf% than average size with average BF%

really need help now tho , is this possible in 4 weeks?? im willing to eat what i have to and spend a bit cash on some supplements, maybee a good cutting stack if needed
thanks warren

[dsade]

DCP/Leviathan reloaded, along with a cortisol control supplement would work decently for you I would think.

Results yield very quicky.

[Australian made]

haha afraid of flying. you big girls blouse.

DCP/Levi would be sweet.

[warren]

cheers guys, but what are they , i aint heard of them lol are they strictly for fat loss or help with muscle aswell?

i was thinking of a carb cycling diet so 1 high day 2 med days 2 low days and 2 none days.

along side a routine to help condition so 1 bodypart per day german volume training style- mon - fri

eg part rep exercises

mon - back - 10x10 - deadlifts and bent over rows
tue - tri - 10x10 - dips and pull downs
wed - legs - 10x10 - 45 degree legpress and calf raises
thurs - bi - 10x10 - pull ups and curls
fri - chest- 10x10- benchpress and wire flies
sat - shoulders-10x10- shoulder press and lateral raises


and yes i know im a girl but they scare the hall oyt of me lol

[crader]

They are fat loss supps but will help you maintain muscle.

[warren]

cool ill try find them in the uk lol which is a pain

[warren]

what you guys reckon??? am i dreaming of abs in 4-5 weeks or is it poss with hard work???


here is the diet i was thinking

Meal 1 - 6 whole eggs
Meal 2 - 200g Chicken + green veg and salad + 2tbsp Olive oil
Meal 3 - 200g Chicken + green veg and salad + 2tbsp Olive oil
Meal 4 - 2 scoops protein drink + 2 tbsp Natty Peanut Butter (pre-workout)
Meal 5 - 2 scoops protein drink + 1 tbsp Natty Peanut Butter (post-workout)
Meal 6 - 250g Chicken or lean steak + green veg and salad + 2tbsp olive oil

[dsade]

It's doable in 4-5 weeks. You need to work on muscle development of your abs, too...do plenty of leg raises, crunches, and weighted ab machines to bring them out.

[warren]

cheers mate i wil do ill hammer them bad boys, my ab routine usually looks like this

3x10

sit ups
leg raises
hanging leg raises
db in each hand and lean side to side
oblique machine

[sf9ersfan8]

i wouldnt worry about your abs, it looks like your face has been through a train reck,(lol, j/k) looks doable, best of luck bro.

[warren]

anyone suggest a good workout to use for the next 4 -5 weeks to help aid fat loss and keep muscle (well what muscle i have)

should i use heavy loads low rep ie 5x5

or

high rep med weight ie 4x12

or

GVT stye with 2 exersices per day , 1 body part per day 10 x 10


im looking to really shift some fat and get the muscle showing for my hol.

[warren]

would napalm help much??

[crader]

I think Napalm would help some.

[warren]

i dont know if naoalm would be best or a thermo , im wary what to take as im taken drive and rpm atm also

[dsade]

I actually do think Napalm would help, for sure. Honestly, I think you need to focus more on building some lean mass and working out those abs HARD.

[warren]

i m currently working te abs on a wed one per week but HARD all weighted , im not too concearned about actual size of waist as im a kickboxer not bb so as long as it aint fat it makes no difference to me weather its 30''32'' or 34'' lol.


could you awnser a few questios for me about napalm i have read the thread labeleb introdution to napalm but didnt get much from it

1- how many sprays in a bottle(4fl oz)
2- how many sprays is needed - id like move visability arount lower /middle chest, abs and obliques
3- how long does it need to be used
4- can i buy t in uk , so far i cant find it here.

[dsade]

Judging by your size, you should use 2 pumps around your ab and oblique area twice a day.

At that rate, a bottle should last you 25-30 days.

Not sure about UK retailers - I will try to find out for you.

[warren]

that sounds sweet, thanks for helping find it over here too. im hopins i will be able to see my oblique lines and abs when standing up relaxed, thats the aim lol i got around 5 weeks, my dad works in lybia 4 weeks on 4 weeks off and hes back to work tomorow that gives me 4 weeks untill he returns then he usually sees te fam before a hol, he has to hol to keep out the uk tax system lol hard life

[Australian made]

dodgy scousers!

[warren]

dodgy scousers!

hahahaha calm down calm down.

nowt dodgey, well unless e stays in uk too long hahah

im still looking for this napalm stuff a good 3 hours of searching brings nothing

[warren]

not even on ebay aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaggggggggggggghh hhhh

[warren]

is this the same stuff as napalm???

http://www.discount-supplements.co.u...xd.asp?id=5801

cant actually find ingrediants list tho

[crader]

The legal gear stuff is similar. I've never used it so I can't vouch for it.

[dsade]

is this the same stuff as napalm???

http://www.discount-supplements.co.u...xd.asp?id=5801

cant actually find ingrediants list tho

That would be more comparable to Lipoderm, honestly. Not sure of the quality of their carrier, and its effectiveness though.

[warren]

for some reason the guys in the uk dont like us supps lol everytime i mention them i get a roasting lol

[warren]

well i have contacted a few guys i know who run shps online and i cant get any for love nor money, so i am left with some options

could get

animal cuts - a guy i know just recomended them
grenades - aparently most potent legal fat burners
tis gel i found link above

any ideas , it will be running along side drive and rpm

[Australian made]

well i have contacted a few guys i know who run shps online and i cant get any for love nor money, so i am left with some options

could get

animal cuts - a guy i know just recomended them
grenades - aparently most potent legal fat burners
tis gel i found link above

any ideas , it will be running along side drive and rpm

animal cuts - without looking at its ingredients im guessing reasonably effective but overpriced along with the rest of the animal line.

grenades - "most potent legal fatburner" my ass it is. Been seeing those things all over ebay for the last 2 years now. if they were good you would have heard about them.

id give the lipo a try if its reasonably priced.

[warren]

well the grenades are heard of over here, they have been recomended by a few people

here is the list of ingredients see what you tink of them



High potency thermogenic formula based on ma huang, caffeine, tyrosine, chromium polynicotinate and Coleus Forskohlii

Supplements facts per tablet

Ma Huang 500mg

Caffeine 300mg

Tyrosine 200mg

Chromium Polynicotinate 10mg

Coleus Forskohlii 200mg

Recommended Usage: One tablet to be taken daily at breakfast. Avoid consumption at least 6 hours prior to sleeping.

100 SERVINGS (Important - Do not exceed recommended dose)

[warren]

ths is the animal cuts list



Serving Size: 1 Pack
Servings Per Container: 42

Amount Per Serving:

Niacin: 15 mg (as niacinamide)
Vitamin B6: 2 mg
(as pyridoxine HCL)
Thermogenic Complex: 575 mg
Synephrine
Octopamine
Tyramine
Epigallocatechin Gallate (EGCG)
L-Theanine
PEA (phenylethylamine)
Lipotropic Complex: 75 mg
Choline Citrate
Betaine HCL
Inositol Monophosphate
Metabolic Complex: 900 mg
Guarana (22% Caffeine)
L-Carnitine
Diuretic Complex: 750 mg
Dandelion Extract (taraxol, taraxerol)
Uva Ursi Extract
(arbutin, methyl-arbutin)
Thyroid Complex: 175 mg
Guggul (2.5% Guggulsterones)
Soy Isoflavones
Insulin Potentiators: 100 mg
Alpha Lipoic Acid
Chromium Polynicotinate
Chromium Picolinate
Nucleotide Regulators: 300 mg
Phosphate
Inosine
Phosphatidylcholine
Neurotransmitter Regulators:
250 mg St. John's Wort (0.3% hypericin)
L-Tyrosine
Animal Cuts Complex: 812 mg Citrilene™ (-hydroxycitric acid) Grapefruit Extract
(naringin, naringenin) White Willow (bark)
Phenylalanine (as L-phenylalanine)
Ginger Root Extract
(gingerols, shoagols)

Other Ingredients: Bitter orange extract, green tea extract, cocoa extract, potassium phosphate, magnesium phosphate, magnesium stearate, gelatin, stearic acid

[Australian made]

Animal always seem to go for the kitchen sink method.....i cant really comment on that. Someone smarter is required ha!

[warren]

this one is by legal gear called infuse



Container Size: 240ml
Serving Size: 10 Sprays (5ml)
Servings Per Container: 48

Amount Per Serving:

Proprietary Blend: 500mg
L-Arginine
Arginine AKG
DiArginine Malate
Citruline Malate
Acetyl-L-Carnitine
Adenosine TriPhosphate
Adenosine MonoPhosphate
Nicotinic Acid

Other Ingredients:

Water, isopropyl alcohol, benzyl alcohol, propylene Glycol

[warren]

as in they trow every thing in but lol


you watch prison break by any chance??? lol linc the sink

[warren]

finally found the ingrediant list to the legal gear lipo burn here it is

sorry for the constant posting just hoping someone on here will no what any of there ingrediants are and any ide if they will work

Container Size: 240ml
Serving Size: 4 Pumps
Servings Per Container: 60

Active Ingredients:

Glycerrhetinic Acid
Theophyline

LipoBurn Other Ingredients:

Isopropyl alcohol
Cetearyl alcohol
Glyceryl stearate
Methylparaben
Propylparaben
Ceteareth 20
Phenoxyethanol

[dsade]

Animal always seem to go for the kitchen sink method.....i cant really comment on that. Someone smarter is required ha!

Looks severely underdosed...all of those ingredients combined into 575 mg Thermogenic complex? Some of those ingredients are only effective in the 100-150mg range.

[warren]

what do you think of the lipo burn ingredient list?? im trying to make a comp with the napalm

[warren]

napalm list =

glycyrrhetinic acid, raspberry ketones, SesaThin™, yohimbine HCl, synephrine HCl

lipoburn list=

Active Ingredients:

Glycerrhetinic Acid
Theophyline

LipoBurn Other Ingredients:

Isopropyl alcohol
Cetearyl alcohol
Glyceryl stearate
Methylparaben
Propylparaben
Ceteareth 20
Phenoxyethanol

[dsade]

Glycyrrhetinic acid is a potent cortisol reducer, but Theophylline is pretty much just a diuretic and wont yield true fatloss. I have to give Napalm the superior formula.

[warren]

what you think of these?? called grenades from here in uk.orally taken not rub on

100caps

Ingredients

*Properietary Blend* 500mg
Caffeine 300mg
Tyrosine 200mg
Chromium Polynicotinate 10mg
Coleus Forskohlii 200mg



Recommended Usage: One tablet to be taken daily at breakfast. Avoid consumption at least 6 hours prior to sleeping.Do not exceed recommended dose

[warren]

maybee i need a poll lol im not between

1 - grenades

or

2 - lipoburn from legal gear

or

3 - none lol

any suggestions

[crader]

I like LG so I say Lipoburn!