[ZDawg]

I am a fat ass.... I admit that. I will say I have went from 5'11 330 lbs to 260 on the last 6-8 months by cleaning up my diet and hitting the gym doing heavy workouts...but I have stalled. Others say they see a dramatic difference but who knows. You know when you walk around the house flexing in good lighting to try and stay motivated something is wrong.....or is it normal.

I do not want to sound stupid, and what I am about to say sounds about as stupid as the scrawny guy who says he does not want to take protein powder cause he does not want to look like Jay Cutler....but I really do not wanna be a small guy. I want to lost fat but gain or at least not lose muscle. I could probably just quit eating and lose fat...im kinda all or nothing...but I have friends that did that and now they cant even lift thier lawnmowers into the back of a truck.

I went low carb for months and that helped by can't seem to stick to it...still failrly clean diet with occasional slips but its hard getting 260 grams plus of clean protein a day.

Anyway......Looking for a good weight loss supplement to help get me over the hump here. I have just about given up on losing the fat and decided to keep trying to gain muscle and just be a big fat ass..........then I see a post of a guy struggling to gain a pound and can''t figure who has it worse.



any ideas....support..ass kicken you guys can offer would be great. This week I just feel like tossin in the towel....no idea why...never really posted for help before but alittle conserned that after reading an hour or two of post I still feel ......dazed and unmotivated...

Anyone in my situation that can help// I have don a ton of research, kinda know what works but but I guess it is more ... I dunno...bad day I guess...is depression for real or does everyone trying to lose weight feel like giving up every now and then....

[EasyEJL]

everyone feels like giving up now and then How long have you been stalled for?

[ZDawg]

Originally Posted by EasyEJL

everyone feels like giving up now and then How long have you been stalled for?

up a down for a few a few weeks at least...Sorry about the Whining above...not sure what happened...

The main thing is I took some pictures and I guess I had it in my mind I was a lot better off than I really was. The pics don't lie...I got so far to go the light at the end of the tunnel is a pin prick. 8 months ago it was an abyss Im sure.

It is just tough.... For months I have been seeing improvements in definition and sizes but all of the sudden I was looking at myself through different eyes....

Current measurements to put it in perspective are

weight 260lbs 5'10 ish

waist 48.5
forearm 12.75
hips 46.25
legs 24
calves 17.5
bicept 16.5
chest 50

Supplements include creatine(I know a little water weight but the energy and workouts are noticeably better) for a bout 2 months or less....., multi,fishoil,green tea and just started ZMA a few days ago....someone gave me hydroxycut hardcore and stacker 3's but have not taken them....

[EasyEJL]

well, so long as you aren't crazy about timelines, you surely can do it. Its a marathon, not a sprint. There were 2 times I got caught bad in "I'm ready to give up", once when I got my bodyfat measured in a bodpod and it was 8% higher than I thought it was, and then again when i got blood test results showing how low my testosterone was and how high my estrogen is. But both of those incidents just meant "it might take longer" not it won't happen.

2 weeks in a stall is long enough. You do have a long way to go, even if you are a large framed 5'10, 180-190 is still big. How big is your wrist at its widest point? if you grab one wrist and try to have your middle finger and thumb touch, do they not make it, just touch, or overlap each other.

[ZDawg]

Originally Posted by EasyEJL

well, so long as you aren't crazy about timelines, you surely can do it. Its a marathon, not a sprint. There were 2 times I got caught bad in "I'm ready to give up", once when I got my bodyfat measured in a bodpod and it was 8% higher than I thought it was, and then again when i got blood test results showing how low my testosterone was and how high my estrogen is. But both of those incidents just meant "it might take longer" not it won't happen.

2 weeks in a stall is long enough. You do have a long way to go, even if you are a large framed 5'10, 180-190 is still big. How big is your wrist at its widest point? if you grab one wrist and try to have your middle finger and thumb touch, do they not make it, just touch, or overlap each other.

wrist is 7 inches..... they dont touch by about 1/4 inch or so.

It is good to know I am not the only one who feels like quitting but still knows I should(and deep down wants) to keep going and see where the progress will take me.

I do feel better after a few hours of sleep...though I am going to try and get at least 7 or 8 hours from now on. I think getting 5-6 has been a little of my "mood" problems. Hopefully ZMA will help.

[GymRat5972]

Try doing something that shocks the muscle. Not just an everyday routine. I have been there myself. now i change my routines quiet often muscle confusion to keep buring the fat and melting the weight off. I dont consider it a diet, its a life change for all of us. If you only new how many time i have wanted to sit home and do nothing, chill out and throw the towel in, but as soon as i get to the gym i get excited and hit it even harder. MUSCLE CONFUSION BRO. try it out, it works.... good lck in your ventures and like EASY said "its a marathon , not a sprint"

[EasyEJL]

for sure, I find that I have to change my routine every 6-12 weeks, or else progress overall stops.

[crader]

Getting good sleep definitley helps, its very hard to make it to the gym when you are tired.

Get in enough protein, do maybe 30 min of cardio 4 days a week. Hit the weights before cardio and keep a clean diet. It will all come in time.

Post a log here, we are all good at helping to motivate!

[macedaddy]

what do you think is your BIGGEST obstacle right now?

diet? trianing? willpower?

looks like you know WHAT to do and HOW to do it. lets help you get the trian back on track!

never fear, i was 42.5 inch waist in 2005 after a ACL replacement. I am now to a 36.25 inch waist at 5'10"

IT TAKES TIME! but, that is what we are here for.

[ZDawg]

Originally Posted by macedaddy

what do you think is your BIGGEST obstacle right now?

diet? trianing? willpower?

looks like you know WHAT to do and HOW to do it. lets help you get the trian back on track!

never fear, i was 42.5 inch waist in 2005 after a ACL replacement. I am now to a 36.25 inch waist at 5'10"

IT TAKES TIME! but, that is what we are here for.

I dunno.... I guess changing my goals form getting active and healthy to actually getting definition and getting rid of the large amount of fat has taken me out of the "doin great' mode to the "its damn near impossible" mode again,. My mind knows one day at a time.....but that little guy on my shoulder who likes pizza and beer and late night tv is using a damn megaphone right now!

I think If I can get the fat loss going again by maybe actually doing some cardio Ill get back in the right mind set....but I hate cardio.....it was good 6 months ago cause a heavy weight few rep workout was also cardio Now I think I might actually have to hit the up arrow on the treadmill.......... I am trying to rationalize cardio causes muscle loss but........well.....it causes more ass loss .........

Also might give the hydroxycut hardcore a go....not for a way around the obstacle of fat loss...but maybe all i need is a copilot for a few weeks.

[ZDawg]

Originally Posted by EasyEJL

for sure, I find that I have to change my routine every 6-12 weeks, or else progress overall stops.

You and GymRat5972 are probably right. I recently started the Rippetoe 3x5 workout and it is kicking my tail muscle wise but not sure if its doing the trick fat loss wise. do this m-w-f....maybe add c...ca....card....cardio (there I said it again) in there a few days a week.

Probably need to get serious about calorie counting now...its possible that going down from 330 lbs to 260 I have not adjusted(down) my caloric intake enough to stay with the fat loss.
I know 260+ clean protein calories seem tough...even with several protein shakes a day.

[macedaddy]

leviathan reloaded works great for me to cut cravings.

you might also look into the anabolic diet, as it allows you weekend binges/carb loads (which could include pizza, wings, lasagna, beer, etc.....)

[EasyEJL]

you can do weights as cardio, its just a different style of workout. remember that cardio is about reaching and maintaining a heart rate, not what you do to get there. so doing high speed clean and jerks with a 20lb barbell works. you can shoot for 100 reps, so the low weight will still cause muscle growth. Plenty of others, burpees are a good one http://ezinearticles.com/?The-Prison...tine&id=563138

just get your heart rate over 130, and keep it there. Don't go higher than 160ish for the first while as you build better cardio conditioning in general.

I'm about 5 9.5, was at 245 last january, around 197 now. Hit a low of 189 a few weeks back but when I changed supplementation it popped back up FAST (I hit 201 in 8 days, and not eating over mainteanance calories). I've put a bit of cardio in, it makes a difference. Particularly just in "life stuff". I can now much more easily chase down one of my dogs if they escape the yard, and not be wheezing by the time I do. I can play with my kids and not be worn out that much before they are

[macedaddy]

another thing is GBC (German Body Composition) I am starting it now and easy has done it in the past. It is geared towards fatloss without cardio. Although, you really need to get over your fear/hatred of cardio. It is a necessary evil!

[ZDawg]

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