[T-Bone]

Originally Posted by Botch

I haven't tried it but I've looked for it before in the local grocery stores in town. I live in a small town and don't have access to a lot of stuff so I'm jealous of you guys. But it sounds delicious and hopefully I'll come across it someday.

They have it at Wally world.

[kraftkid]

Been on this diet for several weeks now and I really love it. Both physically and mentally, it works great.

I am trimming down (mostly inches off waist) and not losing nearly as much muscle as when on straight no carb diet.

Mentally, it is great being able to have carbs on the weekends, but after a couple carb ups, i really don't even craze the junk any more.

I highly recommend.

[CryingEmo]

I've been using cleaner sources for carb ups; lower GI carbs wth fiber content. Kashi Go Lean cereal, Old Fashioned Oatmeal, blue berries, ezikiel bread. I feel way better when I carb up with these than if I ate a bunch of crap. Infact, today, after my refeed, I feel like a million bucks, and I got minimal sleep last night.

[celc5]

I read the Anabolic Diet pdf at all of your suggestions. Man it was quite a shock to this pasta eating Italian I'm sure I'll have some things to discuss eventually, but I want to get my thoughts together first.

Originally Posted by T-Bone

"Buy food that spoils, eat it before it spoils"

How in the world can you guys afford this much fresh meat? Seriously, I spend about $50-75 /week on frozen meats. I have a feeling my sodium intake is probably too high in this regard.

[kraftkid]

Originally Posted by celc5

I read the Anabolic Diet pdf at all of your suggestions. Man it was quite a shock to this pasta eating Italian I'm sure I'll have some things to discuss eventually, but I want to get my thoughts together first.



How in the world can you guys afford this much fresh meat? Seriously, I spend about $50-75 /week on frozen meats. I have a feeling my sodium intake is probably too high in this regard.

The nice thing is you dont have to buy the leanest cuts which are typically more expensive. I get a lot of ground chuck, steaks, bacon.

I have also cut back some on supplements since I am getting so much dietary protein.

Try it, you will amazed how quickly your pasta cravings will go and even if they don't you can hit it hard on the weekend!

[celc5]

Originally Posted by kraftkid

The nice thing is you dont have to buy the leanest cuts which are typically more expensive. I get a lot of ground chuck, steaks, bacon.

I have also cut back some on supplements since I am getting so much dietary protein.

Try it, you will amazed how quickly your pasta cravings will go and even if they don't you can hit it hard on the weekend!

I'm still thinking about it. It's on the shelf for the time being because I have a phera cycle coming up and I want my carbs during the cycle and post cycle therapy until hormones are in check again.

Have you seen any bloodwork on the lipid values after being on the diet for a few months? The book says that these values would improve on AD. I'm sure the author would understand people questioning such a bold statement.

[CryingEmo]

Originally Posted by celc5

I read the Anabolic Diet pdf at all of your suggestions. Man it was quite a shock to this pasta eating Italian I'm sure I'll have some things to discuss eventually, but I want to get my thoughts together first.



How in the world can you guys afford this much fresh meat? Seriously, I spend about $50-75 /week on frozen meats. I have a feeling my sodium intake is probably too high in this regard.

90/10 Natures Promise ground beef was on sale at giant for 3 bucks a LB. So I bought everything they had: 5 lb's. That's 15 bucks. 2 18 packs of eggs, 5 bucks. Whey protein for a week, maybe 10 bucks worth, cheese, 5 bucks. Theres a week of protein for about 35, half of what you are suggesting. Also includes most of fats, minus olive oil, fish oils, flax seeds, etc. Much cheaper than when you eat all 3 macro's.

[kraftkid]

Originally Posted by celc5

I'm still thinking about it. It's on the shelf for the time being because I have a phera cycle coming up and I want my carbs during the cycle and post cycle therapy until hormones are in check again.

Have you seen any bloodwork on the lipid values after being on the diet for a few months? The book says that these values would improve on AD. I'm sure the author would understand people questioning such a bold statement.

I have a lot of experience with higher fat/low carb diets. His statement is not that bold really. Aitkens diets have repeatedly shown to improve lipid profiles.

I have seen in my own bloodwork repeatedly, improvements and my 72 year old father went from bordeline needing cholesterol meds to not needing them becuase of this type of diet.

[Botch]

Originally Posted by kraftkid

The nice thing is you dont have to buy the leanest cuts which are typically more expensive. I get a lot of ground chuck, steaks, bacon.

I have also cut back some on supplements since I am getting so much dietary protein.

Try it, you will amazed how quickly your pasta cravings will go and even if they don't you can hit it hard on the weekend!

Often times I pick up whatever meat is on sale at the grocery store. Last week there was a deal for a huge prime rib roast marked down from $50 to $20! I finished it within the week, and I can honestly say that I don't want anything to do with prime rib for a while hahaha.

[CryingEmo]

Ok, they now have Hood Calorie Countdown 2% Milk at Giant!


I bought 2 64 ounce cartons.


Macro Breakdown:

8 ounces (1 cup)

5 grams of fat
5 grams of protein
3 carbs


What I do is meassure out a half of cup (1.5) carbs, add 1-2 ounces of water, then 1 scoop of IsoPure zerocarb Cookies and Cream protein powder. 2 TBLspoons milled flaxseed.

This tastes like a milkshake, and with only 2.0-2.5 carbs.

The Chocolate Milk has 5 carbs per cup, so not too bad either.



The hood milk tastes alot like whipping cream, fricking delicious.

[kraftkid]

Originally Posted by CryingEmo

Ok, they now have Hood Calorie Countdown 2% Milk at Giant!


I bought 2 64 ounce cartons.


Macro Breakdown:

8 ounces (1 cup)

5 grams of fat
5 grams of protein
3 carbs


What I do is meassure out a half of cup (1.5) carbs, add 1-2 ounces of water, then 1 scoop of IsoPure zerocarb Cookies and Cream protein powder. 2 TBLspoons milled flaxseed.

This tastes like a milkshake, and with only 2.0-2.5 carbs.

The Chocolate Milk has 5 carbs per cup, so not too bad either.



The hood milk tastes alot like whipping cream, fricking delicious.

I LOVE that Hood chocolate milk!!!

[CryingEmo]

Originally Posted by kraftkid

I LOVE that Hood chocolate milk!!!

1 or 2 cups a day won't hurt. And you still have 20 carbs left to fill if you want. Personally I've been getting my carbs with spinach and tomatoes. 2 ounces of tomatoes yeilds like 1.5 carbs. I think botch said 3.5 cups of spinach is 1 carb. But nothing wrong with 1 cup of hoods chocolate milk with a greesy angus burger and cheese... baaahhahaha

[Leggo my Ego]

Originally Posted by CryingEmo

greesy anus burger

[Botch]

Originally Posted by celc5

I'm still thinking about it. It's on the shelf for the time being because I have a phera cycle coming up and I want my carbs during the cycle and post cycle therapy until hormones are in check again.

Have you seen any bloodwork on the lipid values after being on the diet for a few months? The book says that these values would improve on AD. I'm sure the author would understand people questioning such a bold statement.

Eating large quantities of fat in the presence of insulin is what screws with lipids and triglycerides. If you were eating a daily super sized double quarter pounder meal at McDonalds then you would be pretty unhealthy. But that is not the case with this diet since we aren't eating the french fries, bun, etc. It is carbohydrates that are the culprit. In fact, if you were to get bloodtests throughout the week you would see the largest fluctuation in lipids and triglycerides on this diet during the carb up portion.

[CryingEmo]

Originally Posted by Leggo my Ego