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The "Cant loose fat on my abs" club!

  1.  12-06-2007  03:17 PM
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    The "Cant loose fat on my abs" club!


    Seriously, dose anyone else have this problem? Like last year i dieted for 10 weeks and my abs were just ok. I mean my obliques were ripped as hell but just down the middle of my stomach i CANT loose fat. Its so goddamn frustrating. I mean i can loose fat on my stomach but it is THE LAST to go. I would probably have to diet for like 15 weeks which i wont do untill i compeat...

    Just ordered some Napalm and im HOPING TO GOD that it solves my problems

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    Have you thought about a major calorie deficit running and an ECA stack thats what im doing and im getting ripped as heck. sorry i would have joined your club a a couple months ago, but i dont qualify anymore!Hope this helps and good luck!(You can Pm me your diet and i can guarantee i can diagnose the problem(if you want)

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    Originally Posted by boxmeman View Post
    Have you thought about a major calorie deficit running and an ECA stack thats what im doing and im getting ripped as heck. sorry i would have joined your club a a couple months ago, but i dont qualify anymore!Hope this helps and good luck!(You can Pm me your diet and i can guarantee i can diagnose the problem(if you want)
    Naw, my diet is in check. I can get ripped everywhere else but my stomach fat is soooo stubborn. Im not making excuses tho, i just gotta diet longer. Im actually gonna be running a huge stack coming up pretty soon (including EC and Napalm)

    Im gonna start doing ab work 3x a week now. Might not do anything but its worth a try
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    Actually im doing a training split imitating victor martinez 10 weeks out before mr olympia and abs and calves are worked every other day. The split is awesome and has done much good!

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    Count me in. I've been deifcit for over a month seeing very little progress. I am dealing with some injuries which have slowed training, but I'm eating so little (1250-1750 cals). Worst thing is, I've been leaner than this before. Good luck bro.
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    Originally Posted by boxmeman View Post
    Actually im doing a training split imitating victor martinez 10 weeks out before mr olympia and abs and calves are worked every other day. The split is awesome and has done much good!
    im actually gonna try that (for the abs)

    what sort of rep/set ranges are you using? And are you doing upper/middle/lower abs and oblique every other day? or splitting them up?
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    Originally Posted by Cool View Post
    Count me in. I've been deifcit for over a month seeing very little progress. I am dealing with some injuries which have slowed training, but I'm eating so little (1250-1750 cals). Worst thing is, I've been leaner than this before. Good luck bro.
    Yeah dude, it really sucks. Im only dieting at 2700 tho Gonna bump it up to 2800-2900 tho cause i lost 2.6 lbs this week
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    Originally Posted by warbird01 View Post
    im actually gonna try that (for the abs)

    what sort of rep/set ranges are you using? And are you doing upper/middle/lower abs and oblique every other day? or splitting them up?
    sidebends(obliques): alternating 20 side each 3times=1set(3total)
    Situps(Upper abs)(weighted 70lbs) 30 reps(3total)
    legraises(lower abs):30 times(3total)

    I had to work up to this, I also am preparing for my return to boxing(gotta have the strong core)!

    Hope this helps Good luck dont forget squats and deadlifts (heavy and high reps) will help you get those abs, and finally don't forget running!

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    Originally Posted by warbird01 View Post
    Yeah dude, it really sucks. Im only dieting at 2700 tho Gonna bump it up to 2800-2900 tho cause i lost 2.6 lbs this week
    lol dang man ecto i dont have that problem!2.6 lbs in a week would be crazy!(in a bad way)!!

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    I am so joining this club. Basicall have cut my calories down quite a bit, as well as carb intake. Started cardio (first time ever) gonna run an EC stack soon as well. I think I have abs, but its kinda like the easter bunny, he might exist, Ive just never seen him.

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    Originally Posted by freqfly View Post
    I am so joining this club. Basicall have cut my calories down quite a bit, as well as carb intake. Started cardio (first time ever) gonna run an EC stack soon as well. I think I have abs, but its kinda like the easter bunny, he might exist, Ive just never seen him.
    lol nice man!

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    Originally Posted by freqfly View Post
    I am so joining this club. Basicall have cut my calories down quite a bit, as well as carb intake. Started cardio (first time ever) gonna run an EC stack soon as well. I think I have abs, but its kinda like the easter bunny, he might exist, Ive just never seen him.
    yeah dude, im an insane ecto. Im the only ecto i know who doesnt have abs tho wtf. Im lean everywhere except abs I mean im gonna be cutting on ****ing 2900 at 187 lbs (got up to 198 on my bulk) which is insane! (plus 2 carb ups a week!)
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    Originally Posted by boxmeman View Post
    sidebends(obliques): alternating 20 side each 3times=1set(3total)
    Situps(Upper abs)(weighted 70lbs) 30 reps(3total)
    legraises(lower abs):30 times(3total)

    I had to work up to this, I also am preparing for my return to boxing(gotta have the strong core)!

    Hope this helps Good luck dont forget squats and deadlifts (heavy and high reps) will help you get those abs, and finally don't forget running!
    Yeah, i would say my core is pretty strong. Hit a PR on front squats (285x3) 3 weeks ago now and deloading for 4 weeks tho.
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    I would def attribute my abs to carb cycling followed by extremely low carbs for a week or so, a strict diet,the ECA stack, and constant work!

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    carb cyceling is how I got my abbs to finally "POP". I always had some fat arouns my belly button almost it was like an oval that went to my upper abbs and the split between my lower. Odd I know. After a few weeks of carb cycleing (similar to CKD) the next carb load they really popped out good.

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    I have resorted to Lipo-U with cap to try to get my abs to finally show. It's so painful, but, hopefully, it will be worth it.
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    Originally Posted by Rodja View Post
    I have resorted to Lipo-U with cap to try to get my abs to finally show. It's so painful, but, hopefully, it will be worth it.
    wait what?
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    Originally Posted by warbird01 View Post
    wait what?
    Adding capsaicin to the Lipo-U carrier helps to increase lipolysis to the area. Hurts like hell, but it increases thermogenesis.
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    yea you really have to work hard while cutting in otder to get that cut look!
    For instance here's todays workout log:
    Dead lifts(4 sets) 215-225lbs 13-15 reps
    Squats(3sets,total)245lbs 15 reps(2sets),265lbs 12 reps(1set)
    LegExt.(3sets)160lbs 12 reps
    sidebends(obliques)(50lbs): alternating 20 side each 3times=1set(3total)
    Situps(Upper abs)(weighted 70lbs) 30 reps(3total)
    legraises(lower abs):30 times(3total)
    CalveRaises(3 sets):60lbs in each hand)
    This was followed by a 40 min run(also did 7 100 yard sprints half way through)

    Today was a bit long and not something i do everyday the sprints are only once a week but the 40 min run is 5-6 times a week(maybe longer) Although I try to get a 10 miler in at least once a week)

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    Originally Posted by boxmeman View Post
    yea you really have to work hard while cutting in otder to get that cut look!
    For instance here's todays workout log:
    Dead lifts(4 sets) 215-225lbs 13-15 reps
    Squats(3sets,total)245lbs 15 reps(2sets),265lbs 12 reps(1set)
    LegExt.(3sets)160lbs 12 reps
    sidebends(obliques)(50lbs): alternating 20 side each 3times=1set(3total)
    Situps(Upper abs)(weighted 70lbs) 30 reps(3total)
    legraises(lower abs):30 times(3total)
    CalveRaises(3 sets):60lbs in each hand)
    This was followed by a 40 min run(also did 7 100 yard sprints half way through)

    Today was a bit long and not something i do everyday the sprints are only once a week but the 40 min run is 5-6 times a week(maybe longer) Although I try to get a 10 miler in at least once a week)
    Trust me, it is not from a lack of training. I hold fat around my midsection more so than others. I am sure I have a high number of alpha-2 receptors, but I am doing my best to fight genetics.
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