Does any fat burner work with out Cardio

daleden · 12-02-2007, 01:40 AM

Question, I'm just coming off a stack, in the beginning of my PCT, I'm not starting my lean down til March, no Cardio no dieting,
Is there a supplement or fat burner i can used that will help keep down the new coming bodyfat and maybe burn some bf% with only my workout being my source of heating up my body? I'm 210, 15% and hope to gain another 5-10 pounds by march before i start my dieting and cardio. I dont really eat bad, but dont want to watch what i eat, just need to see if that is possible? The stack was M1t, i only gain a half % bf during my stack. Any suggestion would be very appreciated.

**bpmartyr** · 12-02-2007, 01:44 AM

Look into DCP by RPN, Sesamin, green tea and forskolin.

AP & P-Slin are also great at putting your carbs into your muscle bellies instead of your bellies belly.

daleden · 12-02-2007, 01:57 AM

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Originally Posted by bpmartyr

Look into DCP by RPN, Sesamin, green tea and forskolin.

AP & P-Slin are also great at putting your carbs into your muscle bellies instead of your bellies belly.

are they stack together, or is the DCP containing all the above?

**bpmartyr** · 12-02-2007, 02:31 AM

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Originally Posted by daleden

are they stack together, or is the DCP containing all the above?

Stack is fine, or mix & match. Just throwing out some supps that fit the description. DCP (Damage Control Protocol) is basically TTA, Raspberry Keytones and L-Carnitine.

Jstrong20 · 12-02-2007, 06:12 AM

dcp/leviathon stack at nutra is good stuff. I had a s hi tty diet one week and still lost weight.

Colin · 12-02-2007, 08:15 AM

I'd use the following stack:

Forskolin-fat loss and boosts T up which is sweet for post cycle therapy.FYI must betaken on an empty stomach or with FAT and fat only i.e.fish/flax/olive oil

bulk sesathin/sesamin

Scorch-has GTE,sulbutiamine analogue+more

salvia milt.-staves off fat loss,heavy player component in
DCP
Salvia Miltiorrhiza 40% (75 grams) By: NutraPlanet

SyntheSIZE-directly increases nutrient partitioning as well accounting for strength maintainance during PCT,as much as possible sans the anabolic.

300mg alpha lipoic acid + large tablespoon apple cider vinegar with meals containing 50+ grams cho

**VolcomX311** · 12-02-2007, 10:45 AM

Sesathin, Sesamin Oil, DCP, maybe even Anabolic Pump (or yellowgold)

MuscleGuyinNY · 12-02-2007, 10:56 AM

Doesn't cardio usually help a little bit? I'm sure that it at least speeds up the fat burning process.

**VolcomX311** · 12-02-2007, 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by MuscleGuyinNY

Doesn't cardio usually help a little bit? I'm sure that it at least speeds up the fat burning process.

Oh yeah, cardio majorly speeds it up, but I think he's not quite in a cutting phase, so he's just trying to minimize the bodyfat while he's in hyper caloric mode, so like a non-stim, non-thermo deal, like a Sesathin or DCP.

**VolcomX311** · 12-02-2007, 11:01 AM

yeah, he's not doing any cardio or dieting "yet"

MuscleGuyinNY · 12-02-2007, 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by VolcomX311

Oh yeah, cardio majorly speeds it up, but I think he's not quite in a cutting phase, so he's just trying to minimize the bodyfat while he's in hyper caloric mode, so like a non-stim, non-thermo deal, like a Sesathin or DCP.

Ah, okay. I'm following now.

I'm running an Epistan cycle within a few weeks. I plan on stacking it with Anabolic Pump and maybe Dermacrine. I have quite the lineup of support supp's and PCT. I'm prepared. I'm looking to put on LBM, meanwhile burning body fat. I'll be taking ALRI Venom Lean Dreams at night, before bedtime, but I'm not sure if there's anything else I could really do. I could always include Primaforce's Sesamin and/or Max CLA, but I don't wanna overdo it.

MuscleGuyinNY · 12-02-2007, 11:06 AM

I am also gonna somewhat be following Scivation's Mass Diet Plan. I'm actually outlining it right now, so I know the 'do's and 'don't's, and what I need to purchase the next time that I go grocery shopping.

With the cycle that I have planned and being able to go to the gym 5 days out of the week, with the Mass Diet Plan included, I should be able to see some pretty impressive results in no time.

**VolcomX311** · 12-02-2007, 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by MuscleGuyinNY

Ah, okay. I'm following now.

I'm running an Epistan cycle within a few weeks. I plan on stacking it with Anabolic Pump and maybe Dermacrine. I have quite the lineup of support supp's and post cycle therapy. I'm prepared. I'm looking to put on LBM, meanwhile burning body fat. I'll be taking ALRI Venom Lean Dreams at night, before bedtime, but I'm not sure if there's anything else I could really do. I could always include Primaforce's Sesamin and/or Max CLA, but I don't wanna overdo it.

A supp like Sesamin won't be overdoing it. I don't even count my oils as part of my "stack" per se. Sesathin, Sesamin, Fish Oil. I'd consider them more as an advanced food category then a supp.

**VolcomX311** · 12-02-2007, 03:47 PM

You have a grasp of which supps to look into Daleden?

daleden · 12-02-2007, 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by VolcomX311

Oh yeah, cardio majorly speeds it up, but I think he's not quite in a cutting phase, so he's just trying to minimize the bodyfat while he's in hyper caloric mode, so like a non-stim, non-thermo deal, like a Sesathin or DCP.

thanks you hit that right on the dot, when i do cardio, and diet, i 99% of the time reach my goal, but to play with it from a differt angle i wanted to see if something different would work, in my workouts, i usually superset most movements after my core movements to speed up my metabolism,

daleden · 12-02-2007, 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by VolcomX311

You have a grasp of which supps to look into Daleden?

NO. from the replies, i see the DCP