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    4 "acceptable" carb sources


    This is what I've come up with, and plan on sticking to:

    Old Fashioned Oatmeal
    Apples
    Sweet Potatoes
    Brown Rice





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    you are psycho? is that a good discussion point?

    you left out quinoa, the ancient indian god of carbs. And I find most fruits in general to also be good, primarily non-citrus. So bananas, pears grapes, berries as well. outside of that, hmm I like whole grain bread but thats cause I need something to make sandwiches on so it doesn't really count. Maybe buckwheat?
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    I like Ezekiel bread and cereal and Avant Research's SuperCarb. All are low glycemic and tasty.
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    I finally bought some of the ezekiel cereal to keep at work since seeing you + rodja mention it a few times, and it is pretty good. need to buy a box for at home
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    It's good stuff, no doubt. I like putting Liquid Sucralose and cinnamon on it.
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    People tend to eat way to much bread even if it's considered "good."

    I know the 4 sources I listed are the best however. Banana's are wayy to high GI.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CryingEmo View Post
    People tend to eat way to much bread even if it's considered "good."

    I know the 4 sources I listed are the best however. Banana's are wayy to high GI.
    hmm interesting, cause banana is between plain sweet potato and sweet potato boiled, and below brown rice as far as www.glycemicindex.com shows.

    what about quinoa? or bulgar ?
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    There are tonnes of good carb sources.

    Here are some I can think off the top of my head

    Sweet Potatoes
    Yams
    Long Grain Brown Rice
    Old Fashioned Oats
    Scottish Oats
    Fresh or Frozen (w/o syrup) berries
    Fruit
    Whole Grain Bread
    Fiber One
    All Bran w/ Extra Fiber
    Uncle Sam Cereal
    Whole Wheat Pasta
    Lentils
    Legumes
    New Potatoes
    Red Potatoes
    Pumpkin
    Squash
    Turnip

    As for GI. In reality who gives a .....! unless you are eating sugar by itself, then the GI won't mean squat. As the other foods ingested with the meal will throw that number out the window.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CryingEmo View Post
    People tend to eat way to much bread even if it's considered "good."

    I know the 4 sources I listed are the best however. Banana's are wayy to high GI.
    Do you know anything about Ezekiel bread?

    I consider it a better carb source than whole grain rice.
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    I think there's a lot more to it than glycemic index.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thesinner View Post
    I think there's a lot more to it than glycemic index.
    There's much more to it than GI, in fact, it matters far less what you eat than hitting your daily diet numbers, making the small necessary adjustments each week, and timing your macros (which timing macros probably doesn't matter until single digit BF anyway).

    If GI, eating clean, or any of the other nutrition fads out there that authors write about trying to come up with new stuff to fill a magazine were true, I'd be fat. Unless you have some kind of physiological problem going on (thyroid, diabetes, etc.), your body is just not going to break any laws of thermodynamics.

    What those types of foods DO for people, is help with satiety, mood, etc. But the overall net effect isn't going to be affected if the diet is kept in check and the necessary adjustments are made...no matter what bodytype you have.

    I know I'm probably blaspheming here, but way too many of my overweight clients have gotten super lean by eating things that were not consider clean, or low GI, and blah blah blah. They ate the food they wanted to, hit their numbers every day, I made their adjustments depending on what all happened that week, and we rinsed and repeated. For instance, it's not that you can't have pizza. It's that there might not be enough roon in your daily numbers to have very much of it. But if you can control yourself to limit the portion size to hit your numbers, then hell, eat pizza! After all, the BEST diet is the one that you can stick to. Period. All diets pretty much say the same thing in a different way (they each have their own spinoff and have some random studies to back up their theory). When it comes right down to it, they all are saying the same thing. Eat less and exercise more. The approach you use matters much less than just hitting that "cals in versus cals out". Only when you start to get to single digits (for men, or 12-14% for women), does any of the other crap really matter. And even then, it only *might* make a difference.

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    When I diet those are the only 4 carb sources I eat and it has worked out well for me. I do want to pick up some quinoa just to try out.
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    A great carb source are the famous amos Oatmeal Raisin Cookies I am currently feasting upon.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PumpingIron View Post
    A great carb source are the famous amos Oatmeal Raisin Cookies I am currently feasting upon.
    That is some primo sh*t right there.
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    SuperCarb- the perfect carb source.

    -Bulk with it
    -Cut with it
    -Carb load with it
    -Bake with it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sir Savage View Post
    SuperCarb- the perfect carb source.

    -Bulk with it
    -Cut with it
    -Carb load with it
    -Bake with it.

    Discuss.
    Quote Originally Posted by rpen22 View Post
    I like Ezekiel bread and cereal and Avant Research's SuperCarb. All are low glycemic and tasty.
    Agreed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Distilled Water View Post
    I do want to pick up some quinoa just to try out.
    quinoa is good stuff.
    but be warned, you sh!ts may look funny.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sir Savage View Post
    SuperCarb- the perfect carb source.

    -Bulk with it
    -Cut with it
    -Carb load with it
    -Bake with it.

    Discuss.
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    Here is some food for thought (literally)-oats and brown rice are two of the most acidic foods that are in our diets. Acidosis causes many nasty conditions and is one of the main causes for high cortisol production.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rodja View Post
    Here is some food for thought (literally)-oats and brown rice are two of the most acidic foods that are in our diets. Acidosis causes many nasty conditions and is one of the main causes for high cortisol production.
    Well right now those are pretty much my only carb source's o and apples wich are probably the best fruit ever
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    Quote Originally Posted by Distilled Water View Post
    Well right now those are pretty much my only carb source's o and apples wich are probably the best fruit ever
    Berries are much better than apples.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rodja View Post
    Berries are much better than apples.
    I can't afford berries lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by Distilled Water View Post
    I can't afford berries lol
    Yeah, they are kinda pricey. Bananas and raisins are 2 good sources. I know that they are higher GI, but they are also great at neutralizing acidosis. I have been using either a banana or raisins with my oats (sometimes with honey as well) for a while and I have noticed better recovery from using extra oats or non-fruit sources.
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    I've been alternating quinoa and the ezekiel cereals (cinnamon raisin + almond) the last few days.

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    "Discuss" is my line pal. >=(

    I don't see the trademark for it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rodja View Post
    Yeah, they are kinda pricey. Bananas and raisins are 2 good sources. I know that they are higher GI, but they are also great at neutralizing acidosis. I have been using either a banana or raisins with my oats (sometimes with honey as well) for a while and I have noticed better recovery from using extra oats or non-fruit sources.
    Found this.. may or may not be useful or accurate.

    http://www.acidalkalinediet.com/Alka...oods-Chart.htm

    From that it looks like veggies, legumes and beans, and some nuts are the best to eat, not too surprising, I guess the Scivation crew take this pretty seriously as their diets are a good attempt to increase consumption of the more alkaline foods.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sir Savage View Post
    I don't see the trademark for it.

    Discuss.
    Perhaps not a trademark, but there may be copyright which subsists in all literary works, and can include things like slogans and tag lines.. and usually they will last for 70 years (even without the little (c) mark accompanying it).
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    Quote Originally Posted by asianbabe View Post
    Found this.. may or may not be useful or accurate.

    http://www.acidalkalinediet.com/Alka...oods-Chart.htm

    From that it looks like veggies, legumes and beans, and some nuts are the best to eat, not too surprising, I guess the Scivation crew take this pretty seriously as their diets are a good attempt to increase consumption of the more alkaline foods.
    The Scivation crew is what got me curious about the whole alkalinity/acidity thing. I follow Berardi's list because it has actual rankings and it lists almost everything that is in our diets.

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    can't i just eat lots of baking soda instead?
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    Quote Originally Posted by EasyEJL View Post
    can't i just eat lots of baking soda instead?
    Yes, but there is a major risk
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    theres always a downside. it does sound interesting to try tho (the alkaline dieting in general)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sporto View Post
    There's much more to it than GI, in fact, it matters far less what you eat than hitting your daily diet numbers, making the small necessary adjustments each week, and timing your macros (which timing macros probably doesn't matter until single digit BF anyway).

    If GI, eating clean, or any of the other nutrition fads out there that authors write about trying to come up with new stuff to fill a magazine were true, I'd be fat. Unless you have some kind of physiological problem going on (thyroid, diabetes, etc.), your body is just not going to break any laws of thermodynamics.

    What those types of foods DO for people, is help with satiety, mood, etc. But the overall net effect isn't going to be affected if the diet is kept in check and the necessary adjustments are made...no matter what bodytype you have.

    I know I'm probably blaspheming here, but way too many of my overweight clients have gotten super lean by eating things that were not consider clean, or low GI, and blah blah blah. They ate the food they wanted to, hit their numbers every day, I made their adjustments depending on what all happened that week, and we rinsed and repeated. For instance, it's not that you can't have pizza. It's that there might not be enough roon in your daily numbers to have very much of it. But if you can control yourself to limit the portion size to hit your numbers, then hell, eat pizza! After all, the BEST diet is the one that you can stick to. Period. All diets pretty much say the same thing in a different way (they each have their own spinoff and have some random studies to back up their theory). When it comes right down to it, they all are saying the same thing. Eat less and exercise more. The approach you use matters much less than just hitting that "cals in versus cals out". Only when you start to get to single digits (for men, or 12-14% for women), does any of the other crap really matter. And even then, it only *might* make a difference.

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    I agree with hitting the numbers, but disagree that you can eat whatever you want to do so. Things like poor insulin sensitivity can only be exacerbated when Joe shmoe dieter eats a sugary donut for breakfast. There are way more things to take into account like health, and hormone levels. Bad food has alot of bad **** in it also.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CryingEmo View Post
    I agree with hitting the numbers, but disagree that you can eat whatever you want to do so. Things like poor insulin sensitivity can only be exacerbated when Joe shmoe dieter eats a sugary donut for breakfast. There are way more things to take into account like health, and hormone levels. Bad food has alot of bad **** in it also.
    I humbly disagree with you. The amount of food I'm talking about (wrt say a McDonald's cheesburger) is so small relative to anything else, that if you are hitting your diet numbers, you aren't eating very much of these types of foods at all for there to be any concern about health, insulin sensitvity, etc. You are projecting things that aren't there. Yes, a diet of complete garbage has isues regarding what you stated, but if you are on a diet and hitting your numbers, there's simply not enough room in your daily diet to have the amount of these foods for that to even come into play here.

    Way too many "endo" clients of mine purposely save up for something like a McDonald's cheesburger because to them it's like their "cheat meal". First off, they have the will power to only have one. Second, it fits into their numbers and the rest of the foods that they have to eat all day to reach their numbers (lean meat, fish, etc...) is worth it to them to have that cheeseburger. Third, it's psychologically satisfying and keeps them on the diet. Fourth, 1 cheeseburger like that is HARDLY enough to be an issue when considering all other things they are eating with that.

    These are people with horrible metabolisms, horrible insulin sensitivity, etc...yet they have the discipline to save up for it. And guess what? The couple of clients that were obese who have dropped significant weight that have done things like this have had their high cholesterol come down while doing it. Why? Cause the amount of the junk they were eating was so small, it was insignificant compared to the bigger picture of them KEEPING THEIR DIET IN CHECK. That was the original point.

    But, sounds like you have your mind made up, which is why I humbly disagree with you. Too many of my clients have lost weight and are healthy by using strategies like this to achieve their goals for me to agree wtih you.

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