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Old 10-12-2007, 10:42 AM   #1
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Venom Sp tactics: results?
So, I've been taking Venom special tactics for about a month, and I am not seeing any change in leaning out. In fact, I have actually seen my calves get a little bigger.

I have to take a stim free because of some meds I'm on. ( adderall) Is there a stronger, stim free product?
I'm clean on diet, cardio 7 days- changing it up from 35 min to 45.
Just curious if theres any thing out there that is another tried and true stim free or should I give this a bit longer? I want to get a little leaner than I am right now but this is hard. It's like I hit a complete plateau!!! I think I'm at about 12-15 bf.
 
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Old 10-13-2007, 01:39 PM   #2
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you should either try a different diet approach, try interval training or weights instead of cardio, or try doing some high dose fish oil. just switch some stuff up your body will respond
 
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RPN's DCP is a good stim-free.
 
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No Stims?
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RPN's DCP is a good stim-free.
No stims? Then explain this quote:
Raspberry Ketones are included because they are potent thermogenics...and we were able to include an effective dose without having to increase to 3 capsules.
 


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No stims? Then explain this quote:
Raspberry Ketones are included because they are potent thermogenics...and we were able to include an effective dose without having to increase to 3 capsules.
Stimulants and thermogenics are completely different compounds.
 


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Rodja is correct.
 
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Stimulants and thermogenics are completely different compounds.
Reason is I'm a 50+ Dude on BP meds, cant use stims at the risk of stroking out and dying!(could really put my BB goals off track if I'm dead, right?)...Currently running ALR Special Tactics, so far no visible results at 23% BF..., going to add in 11-OXO to hopefully kill off visceral ab fat, stress cortisol...so, help a Brotha' out!
 


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Reason is I'm a 50+ Dude on BP meds, cant use stims at the risk of stroking out and dying!(could really put my BB goals off track if I'm dead, right?)...Currently running ALR Special Tactics, so far no visible results at 23% BF..., going to add in 11-OXO to hopefully kill off visceral ab fat, stress cortisol...so, help a Brotha' out!
take measurements with measuring tape and go by that

also, fatloss is a process that happens over time, give it time
 
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No stims? Then explain this quote:
Raspberry Ketones are included because they are potent thermogenics...and we were able to include an effective dose without having to increase to 3 capsules.
We like to consider DCP as Caffeine free. Stim free is often synonymous with caffeine free, although not entirely accurate. You will be able to feel DCP working, as the RK will produce a little heat after ingestion.

To the OP, you could give DCP a go next round if you wish, I have yet to try Special Tactics, although the ingredient profile does look pretty okay to me.
 
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Question Time?
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take measurements with measuring tape and go by that

also, fatloss is a process that happens over time, give it time
Hah! Thats easy for you to say, Bro' you are only 22 years old!!! I've got 60 starin me in the face in a few years!! I'd like to enjoy a decent physique above and beyond what I've settled for (semi-athletic, uncut, more Endo than Meso)So Clarence Bass is my semi role model (I'm bigger than him at 6 foot)...Visible abs or die tryin'! (Well, except for those stroke inducing thermos! )...Thanks for takin' the time to comment...
 


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Unhappy Adrenal Fatigue?
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We like to consider DCP as Caffeine free. Stim free is often synonymous with caffeine free, although not entirely accurate. You will be able to feel DCP working, as the RK will produce a little heat after ingestion.

To the OP, you could give DCP a go next round if you wish, I have yet to try Special Tactics, although the ingredient profile does look pretty okay to me.
Asian Babe: Will DCP stim the adrenals? I'm rehabing adrenal fatigue also (work/life stress) which is why I'm stacking 11-OXO (just started this week) B Vitamins, & Rhodela with the Special Tactics...
 


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Asian Babe: Will DCP stim the adrenals? I'm rehabing adrenal fatigue also (work/life stress) which is why I'm stacking 11-OXO (just started this week) B Vitamins, & Rhodela with the Special Tactics...
No it shouldn't. DCP doesn't really work that way.

A good product for Adrenal fatigue however, is reset AD, you might want to check that out.
 
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