Im ditching my keto diet

**ItsHectic** · 08-30-2007, 01:31 PM

I have gone from a pcf of 150:150:33 calorie deficit to a 150:20:90 calorie deficit, I cant sleep at night and I havent had a decent crap ever since starting it, despite metamucil and broccoli servings, but worst of all my strength has dropped. I am starting to think all the ketones in my piss are coming from those 90 grams of fat Im taking in, and my muscles are losing strength from the lack of carbs.
I sound like im whining, and I know I havent given it long enough but I wouldnt be changing my mind if I hadnt just read Tom Venutos view on keto diets.
Im going back to the drawing board, rereading BTFFTM and following it all the way.

Nitrox · 08-30-2007, 11:58 PM

Kudos for posting your experience with ultra-low carb dieting. The number of KD yeah-sayers has me wondering if it is some kind of cult.

TripDog · 08-31-2007, 12:03 AM

fukc that ****!! you need carbies bro............do bananas have carbs??????

the answer is you dam right they do!!!

so in retrospect.....can your sh!t be bananas without carbs???

ANSWER- NO

~trippy nanas

Nitrox · 08-31-2007, 12:44 AM

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Originally Posted by TripDog

fukc that ****!! you need carbies bro............do bananas have carbs??????

the answer is you dam right they do!!!

so in retrospect.....can your sh!t be bananas without carbs???

ANSWER- NO

~trippy nanas

Damn Trip! Best pro-carb post ever. Reps

**ItsHectic** · 08-31-2007, 02:43 AM

LOL I actually read that bananas on a keto diet can actually contribute to constipation.

**BigVrunga** · 08-31-2007, 09:24 AM

When I was 240, I used a keto diet to get down to 225. It worked fast, but my strength went through the floor. After I read Venutos book I got down to 210, and maintained my strength just fine.

BV

Lander · 08-31-2007, 09:57 AM

I had a similar experience, but I ran Keto for 3 months straight, with carb ups every 3 weeks. Went from 225 to 200 and dont regret doing it, but I lost alot of mass. I also was tripped out by the craps... I would have a goat pellet size one once about every 3 days. I learned to accept it as part of the diet.

thesinner · 08-31-2007, 10:00 AM

From my experiences going keto/not keto, I find that my muscles are fuller looking when I take in an appreciable amount of carbs.

45Caliber · 08-31-2007, 12:13 PM

Too many carbs make me sluggish.

Are you eating enough total calories? I've never gotten weaker while going low-carb. Then again, I usually do a carb up day once a week or once every two weeks (depending on goals, etc).
If you haven't given up on low carbs completely, you should look into a cyclical keto diet.

**ItsHectic** · 08-31-2007, 02:15 PM

I have given up on low carb, I was expecting my weight to drop and strength to stay the same like most say but I actually put on a lb or 2 of fat.
I think I was doing CKD except it only lasted 4 days, I was gonna carb up today.
My body has always responded very well to low fat diets.

**macedaddy** · 08-31-2007, 02:28 PM

BTFFTM is an AWESOME BOOK!

TripDog · 08-31-2007, 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by macedaddy

BTFFTM is an AWESOME BOOK!

oh god they got you too...........people you need carbs unless you wana look like some emo homo(not you crying emo)

**macedaddy** · 08-31-2007, 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by TripDog

oh god they got you too...........people you need carbs unless you wana look like some emo homo(not you crying emo)

the tom venuto book doesn't advocate low carbs! Trip i know you never learned to read, but have trauma read it TO YOU! It's good!

**ItsHectic** · 08-31-2007, 03:39 PM

The baseline diet in the book is pcf 25:55:20 - 30:50:20

**BigVrunga** · 08-31-2007, 07:01 PM

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BTFFTM is an AWESOME BOOK!

That's the damn truth right there....