Im ditching my keto diet - AnabolicMinds.com - Page 2

Im ditching my keto diet

Page 2 of 2 First 12
  1. Board Supporter
    Nitrox's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2004
    Age
    42
    Posts
    1,303
    Rep Power
    801

    Reputation

    Quote Originally Posted by jonny21 View Post
    It is only utilized for local energy needs. I just didn't think that ketosis kicked in until glycogen depletion but i guess i was wrong. It is liver glycogen depletion that starts the process.
    That is what I meant, not going to state the obvious.

    I agree with your conclusion that muscle might have available glucose but other body functions will not. Hence they have to resort to fat for energy.

  2. Registered User
    NYhomeboy's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2006
    Posts
    395
    Rep Power
    298

    Reputation

    ketosis is dependent upon liver glycogen, not muscular. hence why you're supposed to stay away from fructose on CKD. I really wish c-k-d.com didn't shut down because this has been discussed over and over again there w/ many sources.

    also to those thinking about running CKD, don't obsess w/ trying to get into ketosis. i've tried it w/ obsession and without, and as long as the ratios were good results were always the same
  3. New Member
    krogtaar's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2007
    Posts
    225
    Rep Power
    199

    Reputation

    I second using Anabolic pump to help with carbing up. I only had marginal results using it to bulk at 2 caps per day (to avoid digestivbe problems), but using it for carbing up i feel lets me eat less calories from carbs and still get the strength and energy back
    •   
       

  4. Elite Member
    BigVrunga's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2002
    Age
    38
    Posts
    5,063
    Rep Power
    2682

    Reputation

    http://www.c-k-d.com/ is still up....
  5. Board Sponsor
    Distilled Water's Avatar
    Stats
    5'9"  191 lbs.
    Join Date
    Oct 2006
    Posts
    9,663
    Rep Power
    2038262

    Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation

    They must have just changed it beccause it wasn't working 2 weeks ago. It sent you to some weird jap/chinese writting
    Serious Nutrition Solutions Representative
  6. Board Sponsor
    macedaddy's Avatar
    Stats
    5'10"  172 lbs.
    Join Date
    Sep 2006
    Age
    36
    Posts
    6,068
    Rep Power
    3136

    Reputation

    Quote Originally Posted by Distilled Water View Post
    They must have just changed it beccause it wasn't working 2 weeks ago. It sent you to some weird jap/chinese writting
    maybe your drugs wore off...........
  7. New Member
    Al Shades's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2007
    Posts
    239
    Rep Power
    206

    Reputation

    Quote Originally Posted by TripDog View Post
    oh god they got you too...........people you need carbs unless you wana look like some emo homo(not you crying emo)
    Emo? The majority of those people follow very high carbohydrate, low fat diets. The reality is 180 degrees away from what you describe. It doesn't take any balls whatsoever to eat a high carb diet. It takes balls to eat nothing but fat and protein.

    You DON'T need carbs, unless you want to be fat and unhealthy.
  8. Board Supporter
    Nitrox's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2004
    Age
    42
    Posts
    1,303
    Rep Power
    801

    Reputation

    Quote Originally Posted by Al Shades View Post
    It doesn't take any balls whatsoever to eat a high carb diet. It takes balls to eat nothing but fat and protein.

    You DON'T need carbs, unless you want to be fat and unhealthy.
    Gimme a break...
  9. Board Sponsor
    Distilled Water's Avatar
    Stats
    5'9"  191 lbs.
    Join Date
    Oct 2006
    Posts
    9,663
    Rep Power
    2038262

    Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation

    Quote Originally Posted by Al Shades View Post
    Emo? The majority of those people follow very high carbohydrate, low fat diets. The reality is 180 degrees away from what you describe. It doesn't take any balls whatsoever to eat a high carb diet. It takes balls to eat nothing but fat and protein.

    You DON'T need carbs, unless you want to be fat and unhealthy.
    yea man take a chill pill, (not the drug I was on while looking for c-k-d.com)

    Thats an absurd statment. You need to do some research about the carb comment, son.
    Serious Nutrition Solutions Representative
  10. New Member
    Al Shades's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2007
    Posts
    239
    Rep Power
    206

    Reputation

    Quote Originally Posted by Distilled Water View Post
    yea man take a chill pill, (not the drug I was on while looking for c-k-d.com)

    Thats an absurd statment. You need to do some research about the carb comment, son.
    I'm wll aware of the research and conventional wisdom surrounding carbs. It can basically be summed up as, "you need them for energy". I disagree for various reasons and based on alternative nutrition theories which I've encountered.

    But I'm not going to push it at the moment. I'm more interested in learning about anabolic pump and p-slin as they relate to low carb diets.
  11. Banned
    nphocus's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2007
    Posts
    42
    Rep Power
    0

    Reputation

    Quote Originally Posted by Al Shades View Post
    I'm wll aware of the research and conventional wisdom surrounding carbs. It can basically be summed up as, "you need them for energy". I disagree for various reasons and based on alternative nutrition theories which I've encountered.

    But I'm not going to push it at the moment. I'm more interested in learning about anabolic pump and p-slin as they relate to low carb diets.
    X2. From What I'm reading, Yellow Gold by Nutraplanet is one of the key ingredients in anabolic pump and p-slin... What I believe it does is push all of the glycogen out of the liver. The liver glycogen levels are what the brain goes by to decide if it's going to burn ketones or carbs. I picked up some keto test strips and have a 150gr of yellow gold enroute. I am going to test that theory and see how fast/long it takes for YG to push you from carbs to ketones and also to see if it can push you to higher levels of ketosis.
  12. Board Sponsor
    macedaddy's Avatar
    Stats
    5'10"  172 lbs.
    Join Date
    Sep 2006
    Age
    36
    Posts
    6,068
    Rep Power
    3136

    Reputation

    Quote Originally Posted by nphocus View Post
    X2. From What I'm reading, Yellow Gold by Nutraplanet is one of the key ingredients in anabolic pump and p-slin... What I believe it does is push all of the glycogen out of the liver. The liver glycogen levels are what the brain goes by to decide if it's going to burn ketones or carbs. I picked up some keto test strips and have a 150gr of yellow gold enroute. I am going to test that theory and see how fast/long it takes for YG to push you from carbs to ketones and also to see if it can push you to higher levels of ketosis.
    looking forward to this.......
    i ahve anabolic pump here......are you saying to use it ONLY on the carb up days? or throughout the CKD? Because, if you do not take it with ENOUGH carbs, you get the ANABOLIC DUMP!
  13. Board Sponsor
    Distilled Water's Avatar
    Stats
    5'9"  191 lbs.
    Join Date
    Oct 2006
    Posts
    9,663
    Rep Power
    2038262

    Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation

    only on carb up days.

    I'm testing Neovar so after my go with that I think I'll be able to decied what to use on my carb up days. I'll let you know mace which one I prefer as I have used AP & YG both.

    Mace, when you gonna start CKD?
    Serious Nutrition Solutions Representative
  14. Board Sponsor
    macedaddy's Avatar
    Stats
    5'10"  172 lbs.
    Join Date
    Sep 2006
    Age
    36
    Posts
    6,068
    Rep Power
    3136

    Reputation

    Quote Originally Posted by Distilled Water View Post
    only on carb up days.

    I'm testing Neovar so after my go with that I think I'll be able to decied what to use on my carb up days. I'll let you know mace which one I prefer as I have used AP & YG both.

    Mace, when you gonna start CKD?
    SOON (tomorrow)

    i think i have everything lined up correctly.

    2253 cals per day, 150.24 P, 10C, 179.18g fat.

    carb ups will be 300g carbs on sat and sun.

    I have the lyle mcdonald book and have been lurking on c-k-d site.
  15. Board Sponsor
    Distilled Water's Avatar
    Stats
    5'9"  191 lbs.
    Join Date
    Oct 2006
    Posts
    9,663
    Rep Power
    2038262

    Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation

    Quote Originally Posted by macedaddy View Post
    SOON (tomorrow)

    i think i have everything lined up correctly.

    2253 cals per day, 150.24 P, 10C, 179.18g fat.

    carb ups will be 300g carbs on sat and sun.

    I have the lyle mcdonald book and have been lurking on c-k-d site.
    As have I, well after I got off the drugs that is.

    Thats sounds awsome, other than you may wanna only do a 24hr carb up the first few weeks just to get a feel for your body's reaction to ckd.

    Whats your training/supps. going to look like?
    Serious Nutrition Solutions Representative
  16. Board Sponsor
    macedaddy's Avatar
    Stats
    5'10"  172 lbs.
    Join Date
    Sep 2006
    Age
    36
    Posts
    6,068
    Rep Power
    3136

    Reputation

    i have a new routine coming from a friend of mine.

    supps will be an AX stack that includes, SDNG, XXX(shhh, its a secret ), Stim X, Mass FX, and possibly the new creatine we got coming out next year.
  17. Banned
    nphocus's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2007
    Posts
    42
    Rep Power
    0

    Reputation

    Quote Originally Posted by macedaddy View Post
    SOON (tomorrow)

    i think i have everything lined up correctly.

    2253 cals per day, 150.24 P, 10C, 179.18g fat.

    carb ups will be 300g carbs on sat and sun.

    I have the lyle mcdonald book and have been lurking on c-k-d site.
    Why the two days of carb ups? from what I understood, and I could be wrong, you only need a single carb meal per week to refresh liver T3 levels. I would also caution listening to your body when you are doing 5 days no carbs, 2 days with carbs, the transition between each of the two phases can be rough.
  18. Board Sponsor
    Distilled Water's Avatar
    Stats
    5'9"  191 lbs.
    Join Date
    Oct 2006
    Posts
    9,663
    Rep Power
    2038262

    Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation Reputation

    Quote Originally Posted by nphocus View Post
    Why the two days of carb ups? from what I understood, and I could be wrong, you only need a single carb meal per week to refresh liver T3 levels. I would also caution listening to your body when you are doing 5 days no carbs, 2 days with carbs, the transition between each of the two phases can be rough.
    Everybody's different. If you handle carbs well than 36hr is great for a carb up.

    The idea is once your body has totally switched to useing fat for fuel the days following carb up days should be fine. You may get a little drowgey on carb up days but by keeping fat pretty high stil you should be alright.
    Serious Nutrition Solutions Representative
  •   

      
     

Similar Forum Threads

  1. please help me with my keto diet!
    By clayface91 in forum Weight Loss
    Replies: 28
    Last Post: 08-04-2012, 04:51 PM
  2. My Keto Diet
    By Batman1991 in forum Nutrition / Health
    Replies: 6
    Last Post: 08-27-2010, 12:26 PM
  3. Hows my Keto diet look...currently on day 2
    By CombatTested in forum Weight Loss
    Replies: 11
    Last Post: 06-09-2009, 07:03 PM
  4. Critique my Keto Diet!
    By MikeBU in forum Weight Loss
    Replies: 9
    Last Post: 06-09-2003, 12:25 PM
  5. My Keto Diet - Comments?
    By Draven in forum Weight Loss
    Replies: 14
    Last Post: 02-28-2003, 11:06 AM

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  
Log in
Log in