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Old 07-11-2007, 07:26 PM   #1
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Belly Fat

Trying to find a way to get my belly a little smaller. I used to be extremely fat and now im down to 12.2% BF but my belly area is where ALL of it is. No matter what I do it doesn't go away. I wanted to know if there were any specific workouts or things to try different in the gym. No matter what kind or how many abs I do all that happens is my abs get big and pushes my belly out more and makes it look bigger. Just looking for some help cause no matter what i do nothing seems to help. Thanks
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dude cardio first thing in the morn...no food......lotts of coffee,and any other preferd stimms....only was it's gonna come off...fasted cardio



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Some swear by a cortisol blocker for belly fat. Try lean extreme. But like Tripdog said, fasted cardio.



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if you cant man up and do fasted cardio...then your not looking to work past your "comfort zone"........get out of that zone.....if you want to be fat and 'COMFORTABLE" thats great...just dont whine on a website saying you cant get it off....Do youself a favor and study this topic..it will only help you.....sorry to come off like a d*ck,but the answer isn't that hard.... good luck bro.....



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if you cant man up and do fasted cardio...then your not looking to work past your "comfort zone"........get out of that zone.....if you want to be fat and 'COMFORTABLE" thats great...just dont whine on a website saying you cant get it off....Do youself a favor and study this topic..it will only help you.....sorry to come off like a d*ck,but the answer isn't that hard.... good luck bro.....
Well dude I think you can go **** yourself. I didn't come on here for you to run your mouth about me. I do cardio first thing in the morning actually. Ive done it for a while now just haven't had time cause i work 12 hours a day on top of working out at 630 in the morning before hand. I just came here to see if there was something new I could try to help me out.
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There are tried and true methods:

1. Dropping calories ( most likely some form of empty carb i.e. white bread, pop etc ) by 500 a day = 3500 = 1lb BF

2. HIIT Cardio - Keeps the muscle up but revs your metabolism higher than just standard steady pavement pumping.

3. Thermogenics & Supps - Formestane + Pentrate solution - see my signature for the FAQ this should help you

You basically need to:


1. Up your protein

2. Drop your sh!tty carbs a little more

3. Hit the weights harder

4. Do a lil more cardio preferably HIIT method

5. Healthy fats add in - Omega / Fish 3g's day plus.

*Note* don't be so hard on Trip, he means well and just laid it out a little harshly. Perhaps he should have worded this a little differently and you to have supplied more details of what you are currently doing.

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Thanks for the help man. Ive cut out most of my bad carbs for a long time now. All I really drink is water or crystal light and no more white breads or things like that. The only thting I havnt tried yet is fish oil and things. Does fish oil really help that much?
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do you consider 2 scoops of Xtend before cardio in the morning still to be "fasted cardio"? ive been taking that to try to prevent muscle breakdown but i want to keep the fat burning to a maximum...
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Some swear by a cortisol blocker for belly fat. Try lean extreme. But like Tripdog said, fasted cardio.
Retain just makes the belly fat fall off me. But that could just be me. oh and the fasted cardio too..good advice.
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Thanks for the help man. Ive cut out most of my bad carbs for a long time now. All I really drink is water or crystal light and no more white breads or things like that. The only thting I havnt tried yet is fish oil and things. Does fish oil really help that much?
Fish oil is an amazing supp. It helps in many ways. For fat loss it helps to mobilize fat within the body.

I read that you already do fasted cardio - I suggest doing HIIT followed by extremely high rep ab exercises - working up to 500 per session. This will help to burn off some fat from the tissue(s) adjacent to the muscles being worked and if you have the time, use a sauna belt for 30 minutes afterwards

Caffeine is a great supp to help - drink some black coffee or take a 200mg pill prior to working out.

I'd also suggest, if you have not done so already, that you stop eating all starchy or calorie dense carbs: bread, potatoes, pasta, beans/legumes, yams, rice, oats and other cereal grains. You should also try cutting or eliminating dairy from your diet.

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Ill think I'm gonna try fish oil and I'm taking cissus right now along with leviathan so theres my caffeine and cortisol blocker there. I o cut out most of the starchy foods anyways. Every now and then ill have bread for lunch but other than that I don't eat to much of it at all. Only thing thats hard for me is the time to do cardio. I work so much I have no time to do it in the morning other than about 2 days a week. But thanks for the input man.
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You can try vaccums while your doing abs. It retrains the muscle to suck in. You just suck your gut in and hold it while doing your sets. I also use topical lipoderm and at nights I use Abliderate for cortisol.

My fish oil supplement has really been helping. Along with DCP and Sesathin, I've found my abs again
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Well dude I think you can go **** yourself. I didn't come on here for you to run your mouth about me. I do cardio first thing in the morning actually. Ive done it for a while now just haven't had time cause i work 12 hours a day on top of working out at 630 in the morning before hand. I just came here to see if there was something new I could try to help me out.
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Retain just makes the belly fat fall off me. But that could just be me. oh and the fasted cardio too..good advice.
well where's my reps then?? God! lol



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well where's my reps then?? God! lol
my bad. repped! now how bout repps back for agreeing with you.
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