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View Poll Results: What is your personal experience with taking supplements with ephedra?
it gave me energy 53 13.77%
it burned fat 23 5.97%
it gave me energy and burned fat 263 68.31%
it gave me energy and burned fat, but gave me health problems 32 8.31%
it did nothing, but give me health problems. 14 3.64%
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Old 10-14-2006, 07:40 AM   #31
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"Aspirin inhibits prostaglandin production outside of the cells, which, in conjunction with caffeine, greatly prolongs the thermogenic effects and increased metabolism by substaining elevated cAMP levels."

Aspirin and other NSAIDs inhibit COX-1 and 2 enzymes, which are derived from ARA. COX-1 causes platelette aggregation (aka blood clotting) among other things. COX-2 is used to produce Prostraglandins.

Aspirin and other NSAIDs (Ibuprofen, Naxopren, etc) may increase the thermogenic effects of Caffeine and Ephedrine, but the prostraglandin inhibition will decrease the anabolism. So this may not be a good stack if you are taking X-factor.
 
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I think my receptors need a break from ECA. I am not seeing the same results that I was. I even have noticed a little bit of unwanted fat around my waist again even though I have been staying clean with my diet and doing all the right things. I am on post cycle and want to keep my gains and avoid anymore fat, bloating, etc,.. Anyone have advice?

I know Venom Hyperdrive is a great alternative. I am going to search the site for similar scenarios but I would appreciate feedback. Thanks!
 
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I think my receptors need a break from ECA. I am not seeing the same results that I was. I even have noticed a little bit of unwanted fat around my waist again even though I have been staying clean with my diet and doing all the right things. I am on post cycle and want to keep my gains and avoid anymore fat, bloating, etc,.. Anyone have advice?

I know Venom Hyperdrive is a great alternative. I am going to search the site for similar scenarios but I would appreciate feedback. Thanks!
Lean Xtreme?

Venom Hyperdrive contains 5-htp, which can increase cortisol levels. I don't think i'd recommend it for PCT.
 
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Old 10-16-2006, 10:18 AM   #34
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Thanks Sinner. I will check it out.
 
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I am taking Retain. I should have mentioned that. I have been on it for 1 month now. I am taking 3 caps per day. Should I taper off with it to 2 caps then 1 cap? I think my cortisol levels spiked because of not tapering. Additionally, I have started taking Formadrol Extreme to return to normalcy with my natural test levels. I am not sure if I am helping the situation or just spinning my wheels. I have kept my stength gains, and probably 97% of my muscle gains. Just need to tweak things a bit to stay on course for next time.
 
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I am taking Retain. I should have mentioned that. I have been on it for 1 month now. I am taking 3 caps per day. Should I taper off with it to 2 caps then 1 cap? I think my cortisol levels spiked because of not tapering. Additionally, I have started taking Formadrol Extreme to return to normalcy with my natural test levels. I am not sure if I am helping the situation or just spinning my wheels. I have kept my stength gains, and probably 97% of my muscle gains. Just need to tweak things a bit to stay on course for next time.
Yeah, probably wouldn't be smart to add LX to the mix if taking retain. You may want to start a new thread on this one.

From the looks of things I'm guessing you haven't done very many cycles. Unfortuntately, I haven't either, so I don't really have any expertise to share.
 
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Starting new cycle next week
I'm starting a new cycle next week to help reduce the fat and water weight I've gained recently. It will consist of the following:

Vasopro HCL
Caffeine
Aspirin
Lipoderm Ultra
Capsaicin

Plus a balanced low-cal diet and changing my workout routine to include more cardio and more reps when lifting. I'll keep a log to let you know how it works out.
 
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The FDAs ban on ephedra is a joke. Millions of people were losing weight with a natural supplement and it was taking a serious bite out of the Pharmaceutical Company's pockets. By banning ephedra, people will go back to their doctors again and start asking for prescriptions for the amphetamine based pharmaceuticals weight loss products. The FDA will never admit that the Pharmaceutical companies control them, so they just play it off as if they are coming to rescue of the ignorant masses who have to be protected from themselves. What a crock.
 
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I'm starting a new cycle next week to help reduce the fat and water weight I've gained recently. It will consist of the following:

Vasopro HCL
Caffeine
Aspirin
Lipoderm Ultra
Capsaicin

Plus a balanced low-cal diet and changing my workout routine to include more cardio and more reps when lifting. I'll keep a log to let you know how it works out.

Sounds like a pretty good stack. The ephedrine/Caffeine/Aspiring stack is the best weight loss stack there is.
 
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I thought the FDA banned the ephedra a couple years ago. I didn't know it was still available out there.
 
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there's still plenty of sites out there selling it. If you pop around on any of the search engines you'll find it.
 
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My girlfriend used the lipodrene ephedra product and stuff really worked. She obviously started really watching what she was eating, but she ended up losing like 17lbs in 8 weeks. Pretty potent stuff.
 
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i've heard some pretty good things about the lipodrene too. My favorited was the old Xenadrine RFA. That stuff helped cut me up like crazy.
 
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Definition of ephedrine to me - makes all other energy supplements obsolete
 
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Ephedrine gave me heart palpitations. I always had great successs with it as pre-workout or ECA stack for cut, with on and off use for ~ 5 yrs. My last run (~ 4 months @ 3x/day ECA) did me in. No ephedrine products or other stims for me now. I should note, prior to getting back into the iron game, I had to overcome and eight year cocaine addiction. My cardiovascular system has been stressed enough, and I am sure it set me up for problems while using ephedrine. Only stim now is caffiene.
 
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Ephedrine gave me heart palpitations. I always had great successs with it as pre-workout or ECA stack for cut, with on and off use for ~ 5 yrs. My last run (~ 4 months @ 3x/day ECA) did me in. No ephedrine products or other stims for me now. I should note, prior to getting back into the iron game, I had to overcome and eight year cocaine addiction. My cardiovascular system has been stressed enough, and I am sure it set me up for problems while using ephedrine. Only stim now is caffiene.
I can take 500mg of caffeine if I wanted an still can't tell that I took it. Damn tolerance has got the best of me. Thankful for ephedrine
 
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i am sorry but there is a pill on that list of products called "abgone" what a freaking horrible name! Who are the ad wizards who came up with that one i mean come on, if i wanted to lose my abs i would just eat another plate of pasta with vodka sauce. ( i did that tonight!)
 


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