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Old 09-17-2006, 06:29 PM   #1
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albuterol with t3???

Ive used albuterol alone before with decent results for weight loss and amazing performance results. I play rugby so it really helps. This said, season is startin and I want to take the alb again. But I also want to throw in some t3 and get shredded up. I found out everything for dosing, ramp up, then down, 25mcgs-75mcgs, pct, etc... anyways I couldn't find any info regarding dosage times if you take both alb and t3. As well as any logs of pple who have tried this. I tried searching and I cant seem to find anything. Thanks in advance
 
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All I know is that I would personally be hesitant to use t3 without some sort of anabolic support, unless you aren't afraid to lose muscle mass as well.

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Old 09-17-2006, 07:58 PM   #3
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i was planning on using prostan at a higher dosage of around 150mg e/d starting after I would begin to ramp up the t3 dosage. Ive read that at 25mcg there is little/no break down of the muscle. So when I increase dose past this point I would start to use the prostan.
 
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I would personally rather have the anabolic active before I introduce any t3 into my system, because you will already have some naturally, and I do not know how fast the shutdown is.

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I think it depends on what body type he has. I've seen people (myself included) who are for the most part very endomorph, who are absolutely fine running T3 without any anabolic along with it.
 
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I am an endomorph too, I *really* don't think that makes a difference. T3 is very catabolic and goes after muscle. What doses of T3 did you run without any noticable muscle loss?

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Old 09-18-2006, 11:00 AM   #7
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I ran it with clen at actually a pretty high dose, about 75-100mcg. Clen is a bit of an anti catabolic though, so maybe that helped me out a little.
 
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Probably helped some, but I'll still stand by what I said earlier. Unless you aren't afraid of loosing at least some muscle, I wouldn't run t3 on its own.

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what about the safety of combining alb and t3? Do you think that should be a concern at all?
 
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That should be fine. Alot of people myself included run Clen/T3 cycles. I'm not sure how hard albuterol affects your beta 2 receptors, but if it's just as good as clen, you're going to want to do something like a 2wk on 2wk off 2wk on cycle of the alb/T3. Simply because the alb like clen has the effect of burning out your beta 2 receptors to the point where it becomes immune to the alb, and it becomes ineffective. Yohimbe/yohimbine helps with this somewhat, but still better to do 2 on 2 off if you ask me.
 
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im running about 6-8 times a week b/c of practice w/ rugby, will this effect me at all negatively when i combo it w/ the t3 and alb? Im getting prostan, cissus and powerfull for my anabolic stack and i also have some keto to refresh my beta receptors...
 
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I'd be EXTREMELY careful with the T3 on THAT much cardio. That is going to eat up muscle off you like no other without a real anabolic running with it. And by real anabolic i mean anabolic steroids or PH.


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I'd run an anabolic along with T3/Alb. A low dose of test maybe? I'm not sure how anti-cat Alb is but I don't think it's as effective as the name anti-catabolic implies.
 
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I think Im gonna keep the dose very low on the t3, like 25mcg and peak it around 50mcg for several days then ramp it back down. Hopefully that will be enough to keep the muscle.
 
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i did some more research and am slightly concerned w/ a faster heart rate because at practice i feel like im gonna have a heart attack from running haha. Should I just dose the t3 very low?
 
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The alb will affect your BP and heart rate more than the T3 will. That's not to say that the T3 doesn't though
 
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alb really didnt bother me at all as far as HR so if t3 is less than that im not worried at all. Thanks
 
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does anyone know how much ketotifen i should take and when? Last time I just used Benedryl.
 
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