New to BDC and have a few ?'s

Daniel97Cobra · 11-20-2002, 03:34 AM

Sorry if this is in the wrong forum, but im new and dont exactly know where to post it.

I was referred to this site when i replied to a post on steroids on a mustang forum. I have read a few posts on each forum and am still confused as to what is the difference between everything, and mainly what exactly everything is. I have been working out for about a year now and am now where i want to be. I feel that my working out is just keeping me in shape and not getting me stronger or bigger. I want to get bigger, but i do not want to take actual steroids like some have said to do. I am 18 and i am about 6'1 and weigh around 180. I would like to be around 200, but i just can not seem to gain weight. I eat right, and as much as possible, always have protein shakes, stay healthy, but nothing works. Could someone point me in the right direction, or give me some sort of idea of where to start? Thanks, and sorry for the long post.
Daniel

Kay · 11-20-2002, 03:44 AM

hi,
bud you are 18, so your testosterone levels are still rising in your on body, So steroids wont help you much.
I mean whats the point of taking exogenous steroids when your own body continues to produce increasing volume of testosterone. Also, since you are probably not done growing completely, and your growth plates are not completely shut off, taking steroids/pro-steroids/prohormone may actually do more harm than good.
If you would like some advice on diet, training etc. more than happy to give it to you.
You man find more benefit in other supplements such as HMB, creatine and protein.

18 is a little too young for steroids, and would strongly advise you NOT TO TAKE steroids. Wait a few years you have your whole life to llok forward to.

Daniel97Cobra · 11-20-2002, 03:53 AM

Is that what all the stuff you guys are talking about is? From what i understood it was different than steroids. If that is wrong, i misunderstood the other person. I DO NOT want to take steroids. I never have. I just want the edge that i do not have right now. I do not know if i am just not eating right or what. I feel like i am doing everything necessary, but the benefits are just not there.

Kay · 11-20-2002, 04:01 AM

oh sorry if i misinterpreted you. it must be getting late.
why dont you provide a breakdown of your eating habits and training program and lets see if we can offer some suggestions.

Daniel97Cobra · 11-20-2002, 04:29 AM

My workouts are about 5 times a week. One day i do chest and triceps. This is usually 6 exercises with reps varying on each exercise. Next day i do biceps and back. About six exercises again. Day off. Legs and abs. Day off. Then i start over. I work abs in every now and then, just depending on how crowded the gym is, of if i am up for it or not. I always have a protein shake after i work out. I dont usually eat breakfast, if i do it is just a piece of fruit to start my day, along with a glass of water. I drink about 36 ounces of coke a day. I try to drink as much water as possible. For lunch i eat 2 Hot turkey and swiss sandwiches on white bread. Along with 4 regular sized chicken strips and a big glass of water. A couple of hours later i will eat a chicken sandwich or two to hold me over until dinner. Dinner varies depending on what is being cooked(still live with the parents). It is never anything that unhealthy but it could be things such as roast, brisket, to things such as sloppy joes, fries, or hamburgers. I always have another meal right around midnight, right before i go to sleep. It is usually chicken taquitos, egg rolls, ham and turkey sandwich, something that will fill me up. I will snack in between meals with things like powerbars, or such. I just recently started having a protein shake around 1030 to hold me over till lunch time. Thanks for the help in advance.
Daniel

"THE TICK" · 11-20-2002, 11:10 AM

i have sent out the yj signal. sir, would u care to help a young brother? D97C u stick around here, and you will gain all the knowledge u could want.

YellowJacket · 11-20-2002, 11:28 AM

Whao killer.....

The reason you arent gaining in weight or it appears that way id your diet man. That hurts my stomach just looking at it. And when you listed your workout routine, I didnt see shoulders or forearms in there anywhere. Go to the Nutrition section on this board and read the "Want to gain weight?" sticky, do the math and use that number to your advantage. You will have to eliminate things like coke from your diet and to be honest, you wont get too far without eating a breakfast, just like in real life, breakfast is the most important meal of the day. This is when you need your complex carbs and depending on when you plan to eat again after that, a good amount of protein. Once you figure up your BMR, tweek your exercise routine, we can all work on a meal plan for you, but in the end its you who have to make the choices, we can all give you the knowledge, but its you that has to follow it. And Im going to move this to the Nutrition section so you'll get even more help....

sage · 11-20-2002, 11:46 AM

mmm...YJ beat me to breaking down your diet. there are great amounts of knowledge, including diet ideas and such. of course its not always easy to eat right every meal but if your goals are set, and you want to get there, no doubt nutrition as important as anything. Again, theres alot to change but if i would change just one....it would be the coke my friend. drop that shid, its liquid candy....nothing...nothing....NOTHING....good thats gonna come from drinking that. we got some good people here and just be open to suggestion and you will reach your goals much quicker.

labrad · 11-20-2002, 12:39 PM

1 easy tip. Trade out the 36 ounces of Coke for 36 ounces of milk. Best of luck.

Daniel97Cobra · 11-20-2002, 05:12 PM

Thanks alot guys. I am about to read the sticky in the nutrition section and see about changing my diet up. As for shoulders and forearms, i work shoulders in with chest and triceps, and forearms in with back and biceps, i just forgot to mention that. Is there any kind of specific milk that i should drink? I am open to new ideas for anything whether it be nutrition, or even a new work out routine. I just do not have very much knowledge in this area. As of today i am going to try and cut down on my cokes. Thanks to everyone for the help.
Daniel

YellowJacket · 11-20-2002, 05:18 PM

Well you've come to the right place, once you read that sticky and figure your BMR, it will be easier to help you with a nutritional plan since we will know how much you will have to eat to bulk up....

Daniel97Cobra · 11-20-2002, 08:05 PM

My final number was 3265. Looks like im going to have to be eating a whole lot to gain weight. What is the next step i need to take?

YellowJacket · 11-20-2002, 08:11 PM

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Originally posted by Daniel97Cobra
My final number was 3265. Looks like im going to have to be eating a whole lot to gain weight. What is the next step i need to take?

At 180, I think 3265 is a bit off, Its not going to be that high, .....it's going to be somewhere around 2700-2800 I believe. Maybe re-try the math and if you still get 3265, PM me and I'll work it out.... But then ext step is to add 500 cals over your final BMR each day, then at the endo of 7 days, you'll have 3500 cals over your weekly BMR, which will equal 1lb. Not 1lb of fat like the shitheads at BB.com think. All in all your next big step is to construct a daily meal plan and try to keep it consistant. To do this you need a ratio of fats/carbs and protein. Once you have these 2 thinks (A desireable macronutrient ratio and your final BMR) you can begin putting together a rough draft of a daily meal plan and thats where all of us come in, I know windwords7, myself, Kay and a few others are good with putting together meal plans so let us know

Daniel97Cobra · 11-20-2002, 08:19 PM

I still get the same answer each time. My BMR is 1979. My AF is 989. Those added together are 2968. Then my final number is 296, when i divide by .1. I add 296 to 2968. Am i doing this right? I thought i was going thr right direction.

YellowJacket · 11-20-2002, 08:21 PM

Whats your activity factor? Moderate or high? The initial math is usually what gets people...

Daniel97Cobra · 11-20-2002, 08:24 PM

My activity factor is moderate. I think my age is what hurt me.

YellowJacket · 11-20-2002, 08:26 PM

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Originally posted by Daniel97Cobra
My activity factor is moderate. I think my age is what hurt me.

Ahhh....well if the case is you're goal is over 3000, yo have some work ahead of you depending upon your current caloric intake.

Daniel97Cobra · 11-20-2002, 08:28 PM

I figured that was the case. I just hope i can stick with everything and get where i want to be.