Killer wieght loss stack and plan! - 5% here i come!
05-27-2006 05:58 PM
Killer wieght loss stack and plan! - 5% here i come!
approx 10% ish (pretty cut put not tested)
3 x H.E.A.T. stack 3 x a day
1-2 Amp 3 x day
1 custom nutition 500mg Grean tea 4x day
1 custom nutition forslean 3-4x day
1 ephedrine gel cap 4x day
6ml 40mg/ml tren base topically
4mg mega trn
20m megadrol (superdrol)
200mg masteron EOD
50mg proviron ED
10mg meridia as needed
1. 1 cup oat + 50g protein powder
2. Post workout - .5 cup oat + 1 cup light and fit yogurt + 50g prot
3. yam + lima bean/black eye pea mix and .3lb ground turk
+ 1 tsp hemp oil
4. wild rice + vegi mix + .5 lb chx + 1 tps hemp oil
5. wild rice + turkey chili
6. .5 lb chx + vegi mix + 1 table spoon hemo oil
That is a ROUGH estimate of food, too hyped up from the fat loss stack to rwrite it all out.
4-5x a week cardio (moderate 40 mins)
mon - chest/back
wens - legs
fri - shoulders/arms
05-27-2006 06:42 PM
Dude - step away from the oral androgens....
That is alot bro. I know everyone thinks that TRN is harmless because it's non-methylated or whatever, but RyanSM's bloodwork showed that it raised his liver values and crapped out his cholesterol levels (albeit not as bad as Superdrol).
I'd drop the SD and maybe TRN if you want to keep Proviron for libido.
05-27-2006 07:19 PM
how are you planning to run that i mean by the weeks. How many weeks are you going what compounds what dosages what weeks? I got the same results from tren ace and trn so you could take out the Trn. Then Drol would basically be your only oral at 20mg a day you could do it for 3wks
05-27-2006 07:36 PM
Ok well I'll drop the superdrol to 10mg ED and drop the proviron all together unless needed
05-27-2006 07:38 PM
I dunno. I'm not familiar enough with masteron to know if it provides any libido support.
If it doesn't, I'd keep proviron as I keep hearing something is needed with tren to help with "tren d**k".
Maybe someone more familiar than I could chime in about that.
05-27-2006 07:48 PM
masteron is dht basically, its injected non-methyl proviron in effect
05-27-2006 08:05 PM
In the simplest way possible...Don't do all that, it'll **** your liver and prostate up.
If you're not going to listen to the guys who are telling you because they know the problems then listen to a guy who didn't listen to them and luckily listened in time AFTER I found out I ****ed my insides up. Do a search on threads started by me and see.
Don't do it.
05-27-2006 08:15 PM
Originally Posted by Jayhawkk
Exactly what he said, WAY to much being taken right there, you are going to royally mess yourself up with that stack. Even if it wasnt almost all orals I would still say too much.
05-27-2006 08:18 PM
I guess I should explain. My regular cutting stack is 750mg test eth, 100mg tren ED and 50mg winny ed with 100mg eod masteron for the last 5 weeks
05-27-2006 08:58 PM
Then you sure as hell shuoldn't be doing this anytime in the near future even if you were going to ignore evryone. When's the last blood panel you'va had? Doing one after this cycle?
And are you some top competitor? Why get to a body fat % that isn't even healthy?
05-27-2006 09:06 PM
point taken, maybe 6-7% is more reasonable
05-27-2006 09:10 PM
Hell, if you're a true 10% man then you are pretty lean now. Why not use this time to pull up weak body parts or reach some PR for lifts etc?
I'm honestly posting these replies becayse I know what I went through and I DON'T know what the future holds because of those mistakes. Mistakes that are identical to the one you're about to make. It's not worth it and you're actually going to lose out because your body is going to think it's being poisoned and react accordingly. More isn't always better and in this case it's the straight truth!
05-27-2006 09:13 PM
Weeks 1-12 150mg Test Prop ed
Weeks 1-12 100mg ED Masteron
Weeks 1-4 6mg Mega TRN
Weeks 5-12 3ml Tren TD
That's my suggestions, that's still a very strong cycle, and i'm just goin by what your typical ones are, but how many cycles have you done anyway? Your using ALOT of gear i mean 2.2g's to cut is alot of gear, now that's fine if your at that level, I just wanna hear how long you've been using for.
05-27-2006 09:39 PM
I've been using for years, more than I am proud of. Every bulk I've done has been a failure, I swear I dont have angrogen receptors I have tren receptors cause test does nothing to me (lets not get into the argument)
I'll try this then:
6ml tans tren
200mg mast EOD
05-27-2006 09:42 PM
also wyi. I'm by no means a top comp but I did get to 205 5% at 5'9 with peg legs cause of a knee injury but don't worry I found a couple machines at my new gym I can do so I'm VERY excited to get my legs back!
05-27-2006 09:45 PM
You're getting better but i'll let the pros on AS help you further. The fact you're willing to listen and adjust shows you have a good chance at reaching your goals without killing yourself in the process.
05-27-2006 11:21 PM
Well i don't know the converstion rate for the transdermal so i'll just refer to the tren as tren Ace and yuou can adjust your dosage to what you'd need:
Weeks 1-10 100mg Tren Ace ED
Weeks 1-10 200mg Masteron EOD
Weeks 1-10 50mg Proviron
Weeks 1-4 6mg Mega TRN
Weeks 8-10 10mg Superdrol
Weeks 1-10 .5mg Cabergoline
Now i suggest you stock up on anabolic innovations new cycle support supplement for blood pressure, prostate and liver issues. Also i don't like having the 2 orals in their i honestly think you should save the Mega TRN for another time. It's literally Tren that is more potent mg per mg. Also if your having problems with bulking post up your last bulker with diet included, i have no doubt it's diet not gear related. The proviron i included was for your sex drive but may not even be needed because masteron also frees up bound testosterone and has anti-estogen properties to it.
05-27-2006 11:56 PM
I'll cut the proviron once I start the masteron
05-28-2006 10:55 AM
question do you compete? just wondering because it says you've been using for years but your age says only 23. Have you gotten bloodwork done because even at 23 your test should be through the roof that your bulking should be amazing not a put down or anything I started on the gear young too as i was competing in sports and I know the pressure. How many calories do you eat a day when trying to bulk? Just wondering because I am 145 and I take in 3500-4000 cal a day when not cutting and 4500 upwards when trying to bulk so You have 60lbs on me at least what is your avg caloric intake and expenditure?
05-29-2006 02:56 AM
Please consider your health! Nobody knows exactly what the long term health effects of these "supplements" are and you are really pushing the envelope in terms of everything!
Others have covered the issues with oral PHs but I would bring your attention to the H.E.A.T + AMP + ephedrine. This is a massive amount of sympathetic stimulation with the potential to cause some serious problems with your nervous and circulatory system. I would recommend you do a little research on the hazards involved with stacking yohimbine with ephedrine, but who knows how things will turn out with the AMP added in!
Speaking from experience I have had an ephedrine induced psychosis after taking 150 mg of ephedrine daily for approx 3 weeks. You very well may be able to handle more than this but how much for how long? With all the stimulants you plan to take you may be risking your sanity and assuredly a psychosis is guarenteed to be a life changing experience for yourself and anybody else in your life.
Just think for a moment how the reckless win at all costs attitude could end up exploding in your face.
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