Going to start a keto log. Woohoo!

[ArnoldIsMyIdol]

Well as you know I posted an earlier thread that I was going to do a SD cycle this week but I changed my mind. It just did not feel right doing a cycle right now for some reason. I want to have some stuff together in my personal life before I start another cycle so I am not stressed out during it. Better safe than sorry.

I did start a keto diet yesterday, today I kept good track... I ate:

1480 cals
167 grams protein
67 grams fat
8 grams carbs

Basically I ate turkey burgers, chicken breast, and almond butter. Tommorow I am going to have to eat some souble fiber or something because I am getting the ****s.
But I felt ok and not lethargic like the last time I did keto. I think I did consume too much sodium today though.

I have not done a keto diet in several years. The last time I did one I lost good but ketosis was kinda bad. My legs were always falling asleep for some reason once I got into ketosis.

Supps are:
Green tea extract capsules and lots of sugar free green tea
Saw Palmetto
Multivitamin
Zinc/Mag/Calcium combo
2 grams Vit C
Red Yeast Rice
Milk Thistle

[ArnoldIsMyIdol]

Today sitting at:
1640 cals
174g pro
91g fat
11g carb

Added some fiber supplements. I started feeling kinda spaced out today . I guess I am in ketosis.

[Jayhawkk]

You'll know you're in ketosis when you smell it in your breath... Good luck man but this diet isn't really all its cracked up to be. Too many healthy alternatives to learning to eat right that you can stay on for a lifetime and not feel like ****. This is a short term setup that makes you feel worse than the morning after a night filled with 'steel reserve'.

[bpmartyr]

You'll know you're in ketosis when you smell it in your breath... Good luck man but this diet isn't really all its cracked up to be. Too many healthy alternatives to learning to eat right that you can stay on for a lifetime and not feel like ****. This is a short term setup that makes you feel worse than the morning after a night filled with 'steel reserve'.

Mostly agree but Keto diets can be very effective for weight loss especially if you cycle correctly. Similar to theway you cycle your resistance training to shock your body you can get your metabolism revved up with some change every now and again. IMHO

[Jayhawkk]

Oh I agree 100% Just the damn hazy fogged up brain feeling with no damn energy and having to eat ungodly amounts of crap in the process just sucks.


I used all the fad diets etc but until I finally found a way to eat and stay on it without falling off was when I could drop the weight. So basically I guess i'm giving opinion only based off my personal experience which I guess is sort of useless

[karategirl]

Good luck with the keto, I know I can't go through that again.
Will be interesting to see your "side effects", with such a low carb intake you should be in ketosis by tomorrow.
Brain fog, here you come!!!

[bpmartyr]

Oh I agree 100% Just the damn hazy fogged up brain feeling with no damn energy and having to eat ungodly amounts of crap in the process just sucks.


I used all the fad diets etc but until I finally found a way to eat and stay on it without falling off was when I could drop the weight. So basically I guess i'm giving opinion only based off my personal experience which I guess is sort of useless

Agree again!

Personal experience is what this place is all about brother!

Where else can we have intelligent (sometimes) conversations about things we are passionate about? Most people just give me blaank looks when I start soap boxin. At least here people can shut me up by correcting me when I am wrong!

[bpmartyr]

Good luck with the keto, I know I can't go through that again.
Will be interesting to see your "side effects", with such a low carb intake you should be in ketosis by tomorrow.
Brain fog, here you come!!!

She's got a good point. I feel pretty ****ty that low on carbs. About 40-50 grams a day was my sweet spot to staying in ketosis and not feeling like total gobbly goo.

[Jayhawkk]

Damn agreed with by BP in the same thread twice. Should I feel ashamed of being all warm and fuxxy on the inside?

[bpmartyr]

Hu hu, you said fuxxy! Hu hu.

[karategirl]

Do you have keto sticks to check where you are at in ketosis?
I am pretty sure you can't keep up with sub 10g carbs a day for very long, and once you are there, you should be able to stay in ketosis at 100g a day. You would need keto-sticks to check that you were still there though. It will help lots with the lethargy and stop the cravings.

[Jayhawkk]

I know a guy who lost 100 pounds on it and said he stayed at 80ish carbs.

[karategirl]

Yeh, as long as you increase slowly each day and monitor a couple of times a day, you should be able to work out a level that keeps you in ketosis and makes the diet more tollerable.
50-80g a day seems perfectly reasonable, especially if you are working out too.

[bpmartyr]

Yeh, as long as you increase slowly each day and monitor a couple of times a day, you should be able to work out a level that keeps you in ketosis and makes the diet more tollerable.
50-80g a day seems perfectly reasonable, especially if you are working out too.

Keto-sticks (sp?) are great tools to moniter that, btw.
Any local pharmacy will have em.

[ArnoldIsMyIdol]

I am feeling just a bit spaced out, but on the other side of the coin, hunger is not a problem at all. My normal maintenice calories are about 2500 cals a day so I am quite a bit below with no hunger. Not to mention the metabolic advantage I get by eating so much protein. Hopefully I can stick with it.

Years ago I did the "Bodyopus" diet by Dan Duchaine. I remember I lost a ton of weight fast but I don't know how much was water or muscle, because at the time I was not very knowledgeable about measuring that stuff.

I am reading the Anabolic Diet right now and rereading The Atkins diet. I have not decided whether or not to do a weekend carb up.

[ArnoldIsMyIdol]

Keto-sticks (sp?) are great tools to moniter that, btw.
Any local pharmacy will have em.

If I can stick with this though the week I will pick some up for sure.

[bpmartyr]

You can do it man! Try to keep low carb food with you at all times. It will help keep ya from cavin.

[ArnoldIsMyIdol]

Well still going so far!
had:
1450 cals
99g fat
101g pro
16g carbs

That psylium husk I took last night really helped. I started feeling a bit of the leg numbness today.

Interestly, the lady that sits next to me at work started low carb the same day I did. We have both noticed that we are thirsty all the time.

Libido is up a bit too, and I must be in ketosis because my piss smells bad. Not that it smelled GOOD before. But now it smells worse.

My muscles feel kinda flat I guess due to the glycogen depletion which is kind of discouraging, but the lack of hunger is making this overall pretty easy.

[Ubiquitous]

The "fog" they are speaking should really go away in time. If you are in full fledged ketosis you may actually feel energized, and elated.. I do notice my sense of smell is acute when in the dredges of Ketosis. BP is right, it is an excellent tool to cut, if you cycle the diet correctly.. You won't lose LBM if you replenish your glycogen reserves every so often. I have used a CKD diet for a while with EXCELLENT results. It takes a strong will, but after a while, it's easy as pie.

[ArnoldIsMyIdol]

The "fog" they are speaking should really go away in time. If you are in full fledged ketosis you may actually feel energized, and elated.. I do notice my sense of smell is acute when in the dredges of Ketosis. BP is right, it is an excellent tool to cut, if you cycle the diet correctly.. You won't lose LBM if you replenish your glycogen reserves every so often. I have used a CKD diet for a while with EXCELLENT results. It takes a strong will, but after a while, it's easy as pie.

How often do you do a carb reload to replenish the glycogen? I am rereading the Atkins book, also just obtained The Anabolic Diet and Lyle McDonalds book on CKD, so I am still trying to figure out which approach to take.