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    I did my second carb up on Sunday and weighed myself again today and I was actually up a half pound. Now my first take is yah well I am still holding some water from the carbup and it will go down by the weekend but just in case I do stall I was wondering what to expect is it likely to pass and I will resume losing or will I have to add some cardio to continue. I don't want ot drop calories at this early stage.




    Its a good thing. Muscle glycogen is just filling up after being depleted for a while. I actually go up about 3 lbs after a big carb-up. Its a good thing. Don't pay attention so much to the weight but more to what you look like in the mirror. Some people put a couple lbs of LBM in the beginning stages of a CKD. Obviously, this is a good thing.
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    It's probably just water. Have a couple cups of coffee. If you're really stuck try a fat fast.
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    I'm a proponent of droping cals before adding cardio. How far under maintenance are you right now?
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    About 400 or so I'm pretty far out for dropping cals and I'm currently not doing any cardio. (Trying to avoid it as long as I can). I started some ECA so that might make a difference as well.

    Hal can you give me some details on this Fat fast.
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    Originally posted by DreamWeaver
    I did my second carb up on Sunday and weighed myself again today and I was actually up a half pound. Now my first take is yah well I am still holding some water from the carbup and it will go down by the weekend but just in case I do stall I was wondering what to expect is it likely to pass and I will resume losing or will I have to add some cardio to continue. I don't want ot drop calories at this early stage.


    Damn. I hate when I hit the wrong button. Sorry DW, I edited instead of quoted!

    Just read that:

    Its a good thing. Muscle glycogen is just filling up after being depleted for a while. I actually go up about 3 lbs after a big carb-up. Its a good thing. Don't pay attention so much to the weight but more to what you look like in the mirror. Some people put a couple lbs of LBM in the beginning stages of a CKD. Obviously, this is a good thing.
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    Fat fast: eat pretty much nothing but fat; zero carb, as low protein as you can take. Atkin's recommends it for induction. Not many good recipes here, try to get at least 2 grams fat per gram protein, the more fat the better. Hot dogs dipped in mayo, cream cheese and a spoon, that kinda thing. If you're stuck, try a day of it.
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    Originally posted by Hal
    Fat fast: eat pretty much nothing but fat; zero carb, as low protein as you can take. Atkin's recommends it for induction. Not many good recipes here, try to get at least 2 grams fat per gram protein, the more fat the better. Hot dogs dipped in mayo, cream cheese and a spoon, that kinda thing. If you're stuck, try a day of it.
    Keep protein levels up, always. Atkins recommendations are for sedentary people. It should take a day, maybe less, to get back into ketosis. ALA helps getting back into ketosis quicker too.
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    Ok sounds like a plan, just what I was looking for I'll give it another day or so then I"ll cut remaining carbs right out and add some fat. I'm taking ALA already.

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    Well the ball is rolling again and I have changed to slightly higher fat lower protein (paranoia had me a little high). I'm 55% fat 40% protein and 5 carbs. Dropped my cals a litlle too to keep them at 10 cals per lbs of body weight, I am about 600 cals lower than on that BMR calculator but I am an endo and have a low metabolism.

    When I switch back to me regular precontest the cals will go up but that's cool cuz I will be in the middle of a T1 pro cycle with some 1, 4 andro and would have just started some 3-alpa to boot. I will still be a few hundred under the BMR but up from where I am now. My protein intake increases dramatically on the precontest also so I think I'm covered.
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