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  1.  07-17-2005  05:16 PM
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    Talking If you absolutely have to party...


    I bartend during the summer, and we just started offering mojitos. This immediately became my new favorite drink, but with the 3 packets of sugar, rum, gingerale and lime juice, this tasty summer treat is sure to thicken your waistline.

    So I came up with the following Mojito alternative:

    1. Tear up about 10 mint leaves into a glass
    2. Squeeze 2 key limes into glass and add the lime
    3. Add 2 packets of splenda
    4. Add a splash of rum
    5. Muddle the #@*& out of it
    6. Add ice and a generous helping of rum
    7. Top with diet ginger ale
    This came out better than I ever hoped. I made these for my sister and bro-in-law and didn't tell them that it wasn't a real mojito until half way through. They loved it. I figure this saves in the vicinity of 200-300 calories. Calories only come from the lime and the rum.

    I know alcohol is a bodybuilders enemy, but if you are going to have an occassional splurge, this should help keep the calories in check while allowing for some fun
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    As an FYI to this thread, I read an interesting piece by Layne Norton aka str8flexed that talked about how a night of heavy drinking can trash test levels so bad they can take up to 2 weeks to recover.

    So remember that if you HAVE to party, too

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    Yup, I remember hearing that too. It is not just the maltose that is bad; it is the effect of alcohol on decreasing test and increasing est. Ironic how so many meatheads claim alcohol consumption is the true sign of masculinity.

    But I think the hard core damage from alcohol is from hardcore intake. I'm waiting for my bulking plan, so I indulged. I don't think 2 Mojitos is too detrimental, but I also don't plan to make a habit of it.

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    I'll catch hell for this post...
    I drink beer three night a week..... (Light beer). I drink while bulking or cutting and haven't had a problem. On those three nights I may have 8-10 beers. Tuesdays, Thursdays and Saturdays....... Some people can and some can't...... My dad drinks beer every day and is 5'11" 170lbs...... I don't know about now, but when I was growing up I can remember his abs showing. As of 10 years ago he still had them.... His only workout was one arm curls.

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    Originally Posted by Jim Mills
    I'll catch hell for this post...
    I drink beer three night a week..... (Light beer). I drink while bulking or cutting and haven't had a problem. On those three nights I may have 8-10 beers. Tuesdays, Thursdays and Saturdays....... Some people can and some can't...... My dad drinks beer every day and is 5'11" 170lbs...... I don't know about now, but when I was growing up I can remember his abs showing. As of 10 years ago he still had them.... His only workout was one arm curls.
    I knew guys like that when I was youger but they all worked brutally hard jobs at a tire factory

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    Originally Posted by Jim Mills
    I'll catch hell for this post...
    I drink beer three night a week..... (Light beer). I drink while bulking or cutting and haven't had a problem. On those three nights I may have 8-10 beers. Tuesdays, Thursdays and Saturdays....... Some people can and some can't...... My dad drinks beer every day and is 5'11" 170lbs...... I don't know about now, but when I was growing up I can remember his abs showing. As of 10 years ago he still had them.... His only workout was one arm curls.
    Kill the beer for 6 months and tell me if there is a diff

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    Originally Posted by kwyckemynd00
    As an FYI to this thread, I read an interesting piece by Layne Norton aka str8flexed that talked about how a night of heavy drinking can trash test levels so bad they can take up to 2 weeks to recover.

    So remember that if you HAVE to party, too
    could be up to a month or more, if you continue to do so. or if your balls ain't work good
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    I love mojitos...

    But when I drink, it's usually Guinness (I used to bounce at an Irish bar).

    Tastes good, high in iron and antioxidants, lower alcohol content, lower carbs and calories than many beers.

    /karp

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    I also like Straub..it's an ale w/o any sugar.

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    Never tried it... I'll have to look for it.

    /karp

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    Originally Posted by jrkarp
    I love mojitos...

    But when I drink, it's usually Guinness (I used to bounce at an Irish bar).

    Tastes good, high in iron and antioxidants, lower alcohol content, lower carbs and calories than many beers.

    /karp
    I thought guinness was 160 caloires?
    antioxidants, really?
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    167 cals, but that is a pint (16 oz), not a bottle (12 oz). A 12 oz Guinness has 125 cals, while 12 oz or Coors Light (with a lot less flavor) has 108. I know 108 is less than 125, but I was just using Coors Light (one of the lightest light beers) as an example of how close it is in nutritional value to Guinness.

    From what I have read, dark beers (true dark beers like stouts, not beers that are artificially darkened for marketing), have many of the same health benefits like antioxidants that red wine does. They are high in flavonoids, which are antioxidants with a lot of health benefits

    /karp

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    Originally Posted by CEDeoudes59
    I thought guinness was 160 caloires?
    antioxidants, really?
    Yeah Guinness is actually one of the healthier drinks. It's also high in vit. A

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    Hmm, thanks for the info on the Guiness.. One of my favorites, but I've actually stayed away from it this summer thinking it was too heavy to drop a pound.


    As for the drinking & the test.. I'd love to just quit drinking & dedicate myself to working out. I'm quite sure that I would see a definite difference, especially in the love handle/waist area. But I don't see myself getting up on stage competing, so I may as well enjoy (IMO) some of the finer things in life..

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    so say 'yes' to guiness but 'no' to irish car bomb (drink)

    guiness must be an acquired taste, I can't stomach it
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    I love the car bombs but I always seem to get them at the end of the night and they do me in.

    I never liked Guinness for a long time, but after working at an Irish bar, you first get used to it, then you start to love it.

    /karp

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    Guinness is God's nectar, I swear..

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    Yes it is.

    Although, my old boss and his friends from the old country were hard enough to understand before they started drinking, and after about 5 pints of Guinness, I couldn't understand a ****ing word they were saying. I don't even think it was English.

    /karp

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    Originally Posted by kwyckemynd00
    As an FYI to this thread, I read an interesting piece by Layne Norton aka str8flexed that talked about how a night of heavy drinking can trash test levels so bad they can take up to 2 weeks to recover.

    So remember that if you HAVE to party, too
    If you get on avants forums and read mind and muscle articles, there is one on the chemical composition of alcohol. Part 2 deals with side effects. 26% lower testosterone levels and 86-100% less GH release over a 24 hour period. Not sure how long the test levels stayed low but man that is a lot to not have!

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    never heard of the car bomb. Gonna have to ask for that one. I've always been partial to the good 'ol Black 'n tan...

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