how effective is ECA STACK?

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  1. Quote Originally Posted by bell1986 View Post
    So you use zero supplements? Caffeine? Any stims?

    Everyone looks for a shortcut though.. Lets be real.. If you diet in less time then less muscle loss and less time to start on a bulk to build your body back up. When i diet'd i lost a ton of fat but also alot of Muscle and to be honest i just looked awful but i done it.. Im in the best shape i have ever been now but it has took a long time. I just hate over hyped fat burners and also supplements that aren't studied. Seems to be thousands on the market these days to... ECA is well studied and proven. I aint having a dig as i personally dont like ephidrine as i feel horrible on it. But were all different on how we react to different compounds

    Anyhow.. Keep training and working hard
    I use test, just got on gh, creatine. Protein powder.

    Those are my supps.

    This is after 14 years of natural training


  2. Quote Originally Posted by bell1986 View Post
    So you use zero supplements? Caffeine? Any stims?

    Everyone looks for a shortcut though.. Lets be real.. If you diet in less time then less muscle loss and less time to start on a bulk to build your body back up. When i diet'd i lost a ton of fat but also alot of Muscle and to be honest i just looked awful but i done it.. Im in the best shape i have ever been now but it has took a long time. I just hate over hyped fat burners and also supplements that aren't studied. Seems to be thousands on the market these days to... ECA is well studied and proven. I aint having a dig as i personally dont like ephidrine as i feel horrible on it. But were all different on how we react to different compounds

    Anyhow.. Keep training and working hard
    My point is, if you are overweight, don't immediately reach for drugs as a solution.

    Test yourself see what you're made of first!
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  3. Quote Originally Posted by Bintherduntht View Post
    My point is, if you are overweight, don't immediately reach for drugs as a solution.

    Test yourself see what you're made of first!
    I can agree that you should establish a good base of training, diet, and recovery before rally using supplements, and also that supplements canít replace any of the above variables/keys. That said, EC is actually pretty safe and proven, as a tool to take your weight loss to the next level, to supplement it, not to be solely responsible for it. On that I think we can agree.
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  4. Quote Originally Posted by muscleupcrohn View Post
    I can agree that you should establish a good base of training, diet, and recovery before rally using supplements, and also that supplements canít replace any of the above variables/keys. That said, EC is actually pretty safe and proven, as a tool to take your weight loss to the next level, to supplement it, not to be solely responsible for it. On that I think we can agree.
    Well shiii. Heroin used to be legal... Lol yes I agree.

    Where would I obtain this ephedrine?

  5. Quote Originally Posted by Bintherduntht View Post
    Well shiii. Heroin used to be legal... Lol yes I agree.

    Where would I obtain this ephedrine?
    bronkaid
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  6. Quote Originally Posted by Georgiepecker View Post
    bronkaid
    I got mine from Walgreens (behind counter). I noticed they had Primatene right next to Bronk-Aid....they are apparently the same stuff but some people prefer Primatene. Funny thing the pharmacist didn't even ask me what I was buying it for ..I just told her I was looking for BronkAid and she gave it to me from behind the counter. However, they do scan your drivers ID to add you to their internal database.

    I've been on EC for 4 days now and get the kick from Bronk-Aid (if I run out, I might try Primatene). I think the price was a little cheaper as well.

  7. Quote Originally Posted by muscleupcrohn View Post
    That said, EC is actually pretty safe and proven, as a tool to take your weight loss to the next level, to supplement it, not to be solely responsible for it. On that I think we can agree.
    :-). I wouldn't call it safe, per say...haha! I'm still finding the right dosage for me and I can easily guess my suicide dosage.

    3 caps of Do-Noz (600mg caffeine) plus 2 tabs of Bronkaid (50mg ephedra) and then jump on the treadmill. Reckon I'll meet my maker in under 10 mins flat !!!

    Seriously, it's dangerous stuff and the reason Ephedra based supps got banned over the years. Thing is there's a lot of stuff out there that will kill you if you consume them enough but with EC, it only takes a few pills and cardio to do the same thing.

    This shtye works for sure but you gotta access your tolerance first and hope you don't have any underlying heart problems. That's why I'm supplementing with cod liver oil every night with my shakes just to be on the same side.

  8. Quote Originally Posted by Biomeddood View Post
    :-). I wouldn't call it safe, per say...haha! I'm still finding the right dosage for me and I can easily guess my suicide dosage.

    3 caps of Do-Noz (600mg caffeine) plus 2 tabs of Bronkaid (50mg ephedra) and then jump on the treadmill. Reckon I'll meet my maker in under 10 mins flat !!!

    Seriously, it's dangerous stuff and the reason Ephedra based supps got banned over the years. Thing is there's a lot of stuff out there that will kill you if you consume them enough but with EC, it only takes a few pills and cardio to do the same thing.

    This shtye works for sure but you gotta access your tolerance first and hope you don't have any underlying heart problems. That's why I'm supplementing with cod liver oil every night with my shakes just to be on the same side.
    Studies donít tend to dose it all at once; Iíd wager thatís why you say itís ďunsafe.Ē Split that dose my friend.

    As for why things get banned, letís just say itís complicated, and politics often come into play as much, if not more than, safety.
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  9. Quote Originally Posted by Georgiepecker View Post
    bronkaid
    You can just walk into a CVS/Walgreen's and buy this stuff?

    Its got guaifenesin in it now.

    That's an expectorant... Have you pukin and shiii

  10. Quote Originally Posted by Bintherduntht View Post
    You can just walk into a CVS/Walgreen's and buy this stuff?
    Yes

  11. Quote Originally Posted by AntM1564 View Post
    EC is very effective. Most people skip the aspirin though and just use EC or use ECY and the Y is yohimbine. Yohimbine is great for fat loss, it is a strong thermogenic, and is great for appetite control. However, some people experience nasty side effects from it such as increased anxiety and a racing heart beat. You could supplement with Alpha-Yohimbine which will provide the same benefits as Yohimbine, but without the nasty side effects. There are not many supplements out there that are only Alpha-Yohimbine, but Performax Labs makes one, it is called TA2-Max. It would be a great addition to your EC stack.
    I'm a firm believer in yohimbe, used it countless times. Taken on an empty stomach and away from carbs.

    Usually dosed 200c/12-15mg-y
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  12. Quote Originally Posted by Bintherduntht View Post
    Godddam here we go again.

    If you are overweight, and want to lose weight, DIET AND EXERCISE. DAE. NOT ECA.

    Nothing worth having is easy.

    There are other non crazy stim fat burners. I was 210 all fat from depression.

    I got up and used babysteps.

    First walked. Then rode my bike.

    Then hiking

    Then hiking up hill. All the while drinking green tea. Great fat burner. Boosts your metabolism for 6 hours.

    Completely changed my diet/lifestyle.

    No alcohol for 3 years. No ciggs. No fast food. All organic. Fruits and veggies.

    6 months later lost 40 pounds.

    Then added muscle to my frame.

    You can do this.
    But did you use steroids during this time? Because if you did you can't really tell someone else eca won't work. Its hypocritical. Will diet and training and hard work be the most impirtant factor? Yes always but we use other things to help obtain our goals.
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  13. Quote Originally Posted by Bintherduntht View Post
    You can just walk into a CVS/Walgreen's and buy this stuff?

    Its got guaifenesin in it now.

    That's an expectorant... Have you pukin and shiii
    Why would you be puking it just loosens mucus

  14. Quote Originally Posted by Biomeddood View Post
    :-). I wouldn't call it safe, per say...haha! I'm still finding the right dosage for me and I can easily guess my suicide dosage.

    3 caps of Do-Noz (600mg caffeine) plus 2 tabs of Bronkaid (50mg ephedra) and then jump on the treadmill. Reckon I'll meet my maker in under 10 mins flat !!!

    Seriously, it's dangerous stuff and the reason Ephedra based supps got banned over the years. Thing is there's a lot of stuff out there that will kill you if you consume them enough but with EC, it only takes a few pills and cardio to do the same thing.

    This shtye works for sure but you gotta access your tolerance first and hope you don't have any underlying heart problems. That's why I'm supplementing with cod liver oil every night with my shakes just to be on the same side.
    Good luck killing yourself with ephedrine. Near impossible. People have tried it by swallowing entire bottles (talking grams) and failed. The effect is short term psychosis.

    Meta-analysis actually shows you are more likely to die from exercise alone than from exercise and ephedrine use...obviously a statistical issue but points to the fact that ephedrine has very little chance of killing anyone who is healthy (and maybe even unhealthy).

    Still, this isn't exactly a supplement, it is a drug combo. It should be used appropriately and blood pressure should be a concern among people who have a lot to lose...easily monitored. Start slow and increase dose from there.

    It may not be as "strong" as clean, but it also can be used longer term without cycling and this may give it an edge for fat loss over clen. It also shouldn't remodel your heart like clen can.

    I hate to sound like a conspiracy theorist, but I believe the only reason it was taken off the market was because the pharma companies just lost phen-fen and needed to make some room/demand for the less effective but newer products they were trying to release. ECA is too cheap and effective and safe for them to make money with what they have out, even today.

  15. Just to give balance to my last post, again, this should be used responsibly - but it's not nearly as dangerous as people believe. There are cases where people die from mixing drugs with ephedrine, but generally caffeine is more dangerous than ephedrine itself.

    Here is a good and fairly balanced summary:

    https://dash.harvard.edu/bitstream/h...tml?sequence=2

    And from this site, with the original reference (I remember reading this original reference about 10 years ago, but I can't seem to find it):

    "To Regulate or Not to Regulate

    "Do we want to restrict the freedom of millions just to protect the health of a few foolish zealots?"[239] Some would answer this question with a resounding "yes." The FDA has been in a difficult position and is often accused of doing nothing or attempting to do too much.

    Ephedra may be useful in reducing total obesity related medical costs. Even a 5-10 percent decrease in weight can "lead to enormous medical benefits, such as improvements in blood pressure, lipids, and blood glucose, as well as a rise in self-esteem and a lowering of depression."[240] The immediate key to avoiding the serious injuries is education. Many overweight consumers are so desperate to lose weight that they increase their intake of the ephedra. For example, one woman consumed over 28,000 mg of ephedra per day, which led to acute paranoid psychosis.[241] Consumers need to know and understand the risks they are taking with ephedra."
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