[CJ_Xfit89]

Stim:
Alphamine, BPS combustion, ECA, new PX black (read write up-super good profile)

Non Stim:
Aav2, vanillean, GCE, green tea, RK, TTA, forskollin

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[stxnas]

A buddy of mine swears by it. I know he likes 1,3 Dimeth a lot, though. He was always swiping Motivate from me.

[ITW]

Trust me, not a rep, not a shill, just a consumer like you. I've tried so many stim based fatburners that I'm in a good position to compare and recommend one to you. The way I utilize these products, is that I take them first thing in the morning upon waking, then perform fasted cardio for an hour. I normally use these types of products anywhere from 2-3 months at a time, so for comparison purposes I can effectively gauge which ones truly burn fat, as opposed to just offering stim energy. A lot of these so-called fatburners don't burn fat, what they do is just provide energy, but that is all they do. A product like Alphamine provides energy however, it also creates an environment where if you put in the work (for me 3-4 times a week fasted cardio), the results are rapid and dramatic. Not blowing smoke, it's literally that good.

Did you run alphamine everyday or only on days when you did your fasted cardio?

[southpaw23]

Did you run alphamine everyday or only on days when you did your fasted cardio?

I'd take it every morning, prior to cardio and again the results within even three weeks were crazy. I didn't even take the second serving in the afternoon, like they recommend. I was surprised at how good this stuff worked and just how rapidly it produced results. My friends all use it now, and that's not hype or exaggeration. Many products in this category produce energy, many of them also fail to burn fat at least on par with Alphamine based on my observations.

[onemorerep22]

southpaw how do you compare it to eca, or oxy elite pro?

[southpaw23]

southpaw how do you compare it to eca, or oxy elite pro?

I haven't tried ECA yet, although my friends have, quite a few of them actually, in comparison to my results on Alphamine vs theirs on ECA, the results weren't close at all. Alphamine produced much better results. That's just my personal observation. In comparison to the OG version of Oxy Elite Pro (which I ran for two months), again Alphamine produced significant results much faster. OG Oxy however, is a nice stim, although the duration of energy/stim is short and I crashed on it.

[stxnas]

Interesting to hear that, thanks.

[onemorerep22]

thanks man. i think i will go with alphamine and go from there.

[southpaw23]

thanks man. i think i will go with alphamine and go from there.

Welcome. Trust me you won't be disappointed. Just make sure your diet is fairly on track, even with me eating the occasional cold stone ice cream (I have the heart of a fat kid) it still produced rapid and measurable results within a month, much faster than anything else I've ever taken. If you take it prior to fasted cardio 3-4 times a week you should be good to go.

[stxnas]

I don't care what anybody says about fasted cardio. It's always done wonders for me in regards to weight loss and energy. Granted I usually drink BCAAs just before and during, so I'm not sure if that is technically considered fasted.

[jimbuick]

Fasted cardio has no.measurable benefit for fat loss over fed state cardio (that I am aware of, if you have any evidence id be interested in seeing it)

In fact, HIIT has been shown to be much more effective than LISS and has a host of other benefits as far as body composition is concerned

[stxnas]

I do HIIT when I do my fasted cardio (seriously. not being a smartass).

Also, is it technically fasted if I'm taking BCAAs just before and during?

[southpaw23]

I don't care what anybody says about fasted cardio. It's always done wonders for me in regards to weight loss and energy. Granted I usually drink BCAAs just before and during, so I'm not sure if that is technically considered fasted.

I'd take two scoops of Alphamine before cardio with nothing else (including BCAA's) and I didn't lose any muscle. In fact even after the first month my arms, shoulders, back appeared bigger. My friends even commented with the same sentiments.

[stxnas]

Why no BCAAs?

[jimbuick]

I do HIIT when I do my fasted cardio (seriously. not being a smartass).

Also, is it technically fasted if I'm taking BCAAs just before and during?

HIIT should be treated like a lifting session, it is generally better for you to have something small to eat prior. ZiR.Red recommends something like half an apple and a small amount of protein, ~20g, to get the most out of it.

That way you can achieve maximal force production.

BCAAs won't be enough calories to break your fast.

[jimbuick]

I'd take two scoops of Alphamine before cardio with nothing else (including BCAA's) and I didn't lose any muscle. In fact even after the first month my arms, shoulders, back appeared bigger. My friends even commented with the same sentiments.

Leaning out will make you appear larger because of the increased definition but it doesn't mean you are getting any bigger. It's kind of like an optic illusion.

[stxnas]

HIIT should be treated like a lifting session, it is generally better for you to have something small to eat prior. ZiR.Red recommends something like half an apple and a small amount of protein, ~20g, to get the most out of it.

That way you can achieve maximal force production.

BCAAs won't be enough calories to break your fast.

That's not too much, so I could see myself trying that.

[southpaw23]

Why no BCAAs?

To be honest, I don't really over think this stuff man. I sip on an Intra mix (Compete) during my run and my results have been spectacular.

[jimbuick]

To be honest, I don't really over think this stuff man. I sip on a BCAA mix (Compete) during my run and my results have been spectacular.

Compete doesn't have BCAAs. It's a good intra but no BCAAs, has whey protein hydrolysate IIRC.

[southpaw23]

Leaning out will make you appear larger because of the increased definition but it doesn't mean you are getting any bigger. It's kind of like an optic illusion.

I hear you, which is why I used the word "appeared" and my friends commented on the same. So I take that for whatever it's worth. All I know is compared to other products that I've taken in this category, the results weren't nearly close compared to what I achieved on Alphamine.

[southpaw23]

Compete doesn't have BCAAs. It's a good intra but no BCAAs, has whey protein hydrolysate IIRC.

I know, which is why I stated that I don't over think this stuff and my results have great nevertheless compared to other products I've taken in the past.

[jimbuick]

I know, which is why I stated that I don't over think this stuff and my results have great nevertheless compared to other products I've taken in the past.

If you know it doesn't have BCAAs then why did you call it a BCAA mix

[southpaw23]

If you know it doesn't have BCAAs then why did you call it a BCAA mix

:/ Because it's close to midnight and I'm exhausted (long day), and basically who gives a ****.

[onemorerep22]

just ordered alphamine for 29 bucks. good deal.

[Buffspartan]

just ordered alphamine for 29 bucks. good deal.

I second that!!! From what I've read alphamine has awesome muscle preserving properties meaning you can go harder on your cutting diet without fearing muscle loss! Plus people are reporting results similar to an ECA stack! So excited for mine to come in the mail. I do a lot of research before I buy a product and alphamine seems like your absolute best bet.

[boogyman]

Alphamine is the real deal. I would put its fat burning properties equal to ECA (for me anyhow), but the extra ingredients for muscle preservation are what makes it a winner. I used it on a recomp when it first came out, had a really sloppy diet due to some personal issues and not having much time to prepare food, and still leaned out while gaining strength at about the same clip I was on a lean bulk.

It also really helps with appetite during fasting periods and tastes pretty good. Looking forward to a nice 3 month long run of it next month for a cut.

[machorox123]

formutech's lean efx refined or natural efx would do the job nicely.

I can second this





Heres my results.