What's your best way to lose weight?
- 12-24-2012, 09:36 PM
And by no means do I encourage a 'sh***y' diet with minimal micros from food sources; I always ensure everyone I talk to increases vegetables, fruits etc. etc. for all the benefits you mentioned. That wasn't the intention of my post haha, just one side of a very complex story.
I was merely stating that it is still possible to decrease weight by eating less even if someones food choices leave alot to be desired.
Total calories> Meal Compostition for weight loss strategies but understanding how important the diet is in relation to health (a seperate issue to weight loss) will require a greater knowledge of meal compostiton and eating "clean". Hope this clears up what I meant.
- 12-24-2012, 09:43 PM
I think its really a tricky subject when it comes to weight loss. I mean its hard to get the weight off
but its even harder to KEEP it off. I think it really can be a tricky subject its all about the stuff you eat
if your diet is crappy then your going to have a tough time losing the weight. That's the bottom line
- 12-24-2012, 10:04 PM
Macronutrients are not a substitute for real food (edible plants and animals)
One problem with your post is the word "clean". As I said before, this is highly subjective. Example, to me bacon, butter, fatty cuts of meat, white rice, would be clean eating and whole wheat pasta, brown rice, etc dirty eating."The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance." - Socrates
12-24-2012, 11:22 PM
The originating comment is in a topic titled "Meals" under the bulk forum where a guy was having trouble meeting daily macros on his chosen diet plan and it was implied he skip breakfast. This began a defense of IF diets with other strategies being questioned or disregarded altogether and continued on across the board, often out of context anyways.
I've acknowledged and realize various diets work all along though not in every post so I'm sure picking up a few posts here and there has not given the clearest notion.
Hopefully we can all move along to the next controversial topic happy we are each hitting our goals, however we are best able.
12-24-2012, 11:24 PM
But thats another topic for another day haha
12-24-2012, 11:35 PM
Jigz, I just ate about 2lbs combined worth of both post workout (Christmas eve dinner with mi madre)
I figure, I'll eat both and let them decide who's best. I shall call it "food Darwinism" :-D
Serious Nutrition Solutions Representative
12-25-2012, 01:45 AM
The above is my own opinion and does not reflect the opinion of PES
12-25-2012, 04:28 AM
12-25-2012, 05:02 AM
To sum up.....follow whatever strategy you want for fat loss as long as you don't violate the calorie defecit principle.
12-25-2012, 09:05 AM
12-25-2012, 12:32 PM
Changed it up after reading "The Anabolic Diet" and everything was just peachy, switched to foods I actually enjoy eating, my blood work has never been better, so many different improvements in my overall life. I am able to be at lower % of BF and still increase strength and weight, something I was never able to accomplish before.
Androhard + Andromass Log
12-25-2012, 09:52 PM
12-25-2012, 11:37 PM
When I said, "macronutrients are not a substitute for real food (edible plants and animals)", I was referring to “nutritionism” which is the idea that a collections of nutrients can be a suitable replacement natural foods.
"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance." - Socrates
12-26-2012, 12:04 AM
I think if i follow my routine there shouldn't be a problem with keeping the weight off at all. I think I just
need to follow my HIIT routines and hit them 5 times per week as well as lift at least 3 times per week a
and make sure that I am eating wisely and the weight should come right off! That's the plan
12-26-2012, 07:35 AM
In general, weight should stay the same regardless if you go to the gym or not. Hormones are a big part of weight regulation. If weight goes up for "no appearent reason" then it's time to worry. It's either a hormonal imbalance or you are eating a diet rich in carbohydrates which the body stores as energy in the form of fat.
12-26-2012, 02:21 PM
I think that the tricky thing to monitor is your metabolism. There are different ways to kickstart your metabolism
and they are quick and easy fixes. I think adding cayenne pepper to your foods speeds up your metabolism as well
as adding cinnamon to your diet. You can add cinnamon to your eggs and also to your oats to kick it up a notch
12-26-2012, 02:51 PM
Calories in vs calories out workout 3 to 5 days a week cardio on off days dont overcomplicate something so easy. Find a diet u can stick with find one that works for u i loved IF i now do 6 meals a day for bulking, but at the end of the day no ammount of pepper, cinamon etc will help if ur diet and workout program are not on point.
12-26-2012, 07:11 PM
So is HIIT for 5 days a week a good idea?? Especially if you're also lifting? I thought 2 days (maybe 3 tops) was the general recommendation, to allow for recovery, etc? Or perhaps it's 5 days HIIT cardio and minimal lifting? Obviously I know pretty little about this stuff so I"ve merely been following this thread and trying to learn......
12-26-2012, 07:35 PM
12-26-2012, 08:33 PM
12-26-2012, 09:41 PM
There are a few things to consider:
1. your body needs to be in hormonal balance. In other words without gym you should be able to maintain the weight at a decent body fat.
2. By doing too much cardio, the body will adopt after a while and will prompt you to eat more, thus negating the weight loss portion of it.
3. Resting methabolic rate is the key to fat loss.
If the body can burn fat most of the day then that's more powerful than cardio itself. Puting a higher resting methabolic rate with cardio is the sweet spot to lose body fat.
Now, we all have a resting methabolic rate some higher than others. However, if thyroid function is optimal and one builds a substantial amount of muscle along with low insulin those 3 together will easily put the body in a fat burning mode. If the thyroid is below optimal level, fat loss is almost imposible. Ask anybody with thyroid problems and they will tell you.
About the insulin. Insulin is a weight gain hormone and Glucagon is its antagonist, fat releasing. If cells are insulin impaired and insulin is high all the time, Glucagon is suppressed and fat loss will suffer.
What Im trying to say is that our bodies is a delicate machine working in balance with all the hormons. If it's out of balance there is no gym or cardio in the world that will give you the results desired if the balance is way off.
So, my advice is to do a full hormonal panel, glucose tolerance test, thyroid and see where you stand. Then build a diet and exercise program to enhance your phenotype.
12-27-2012, 02:29 AM
12-27-2012, 02:53 AM
12-27-2012, 03:01 PM
After I use the Trim Down Advanced by Muscle Gauge Nutrition I'm thinking of doing another HIIT workout and run it 5 days per week.
What are your thoughts on HIIT? Do you think its effective? Or do you suggest something different? I think its a great form of cardio.
12-27-2012, 11:07 PM
I think many good points were made, from my personal experience, it's so true how no two bodies react the same way to nutrition. My room mate and I weighed the same, did the exact same diet and the results were completely different. You can't imagine how upset I was when I busted my ass just as hard and I was the one with the body comp that didnt react in the positive manner as his did.
Long story short we have chalked it up to my body just didnt take to the same diet as his. Which leads me wondering if these blood panels I hear about really do help with dialing in your nutrition. Has anyone done this? What do these tests really tell you?
12-28-2012, 03:12 PM
I think its important to remember what type of body is doing the nutrition and fitness plan. I am an athletic body type so my
body doesn't respond to certain things that an inactive body type would respond to. I think its harder to lose fat when you have
an athletic body type because my metabolism is extremely high so its really tough to battle. I have to work extra hard
12-28-2012, 11:22 PM
12-28-2012, 11:34 PM
I'll give you an example,
I helped someone who used to eat 800cal a day and gain weight. First issue discovered was her thyroid being off. Started with t4 and still had problems. Then added t3 to the t4 as the body wouldnt make enough t3. Basically, t4 was high and t3 was low. WIth that fixed we moved to diet.She did have insulin resistance and she could not do without carbs...the usual up and down rollacoater with blood glucose. Now, she eats a low carb diet with occasional cheat meals, social drinker, few times a week in the gym and moderate cardio(HIIT 2x a week).
Now she eats 1600cal a day, maintaining her weight and at this time losing fat and gaining muscle.
She never felt better. So to answer your question it makes a big difference if you know what your body tendencies are and how to deal with them.
12-29-2012, 02:50 AM
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