What supplements WORK for fat loss!!!

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  1. Quote Originally Posted by bubagump View Post
    Alright just a breif backround so i don't get the "diet diet diet" comments. I use to be 285lbs and now 195lbs, so yes i know how to diet "keto works wonders and currently on it" diet in check bla bla bla. I'm just looking for that extra edge to get another lb or two off here and there, and just wondering the things people have used to get that extra help.

    Currently i have
    T3
    Eca
    Green tea

    Yes i know about t3, used it many times bla bla bla

    And of course i have the basics
    Protein
    creatine
    fish oil
    multi

    So what have you used to get that extra edge that you fealt worked.

    Looking into adding erase (have used before with some benifit)
    My formula for cutting
    Thermo- choose one (i choose ECA)
    estrogen control- (i choose exemestane
    cortisol control (i choose 11 keto test)
    thyroid (i choose 3,3 2 and 3,3 5)

    its not about supplements its about the different mechanism you can use at the same time to create fat burning environment.

    Diet of choice is Lean Gains and reverse pyramid training
    The difference between who you are and who you want to be is what you do.


  2. Quote Originally Posted by braxbrah View Post
    DNP although effective makes you feel complete crap...sweaty with interrupted poor quality sleep. Your workouts are also far from optimal. Forget cardio. Im not one of these believers in " omg dnp is so dangerous you are going to die" bla bla, but honestly most people only manage two weeks maximum on it because of the comfortableness of using it. ECA is a much, much better option. Although its not as effective in speeding your metabolism you can stay on it longer, it'll reduce appetite and still allow you to have effective workouts. DNP is just a short term measure with uncomfortable side effects.
    Not even close low dose DNP and ECA best dam stack ever. Add some thyroid support cortisol control and estrogen control and let their be greatness
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  3. How much do you consider low dose DNP? I'd be interested to hear your exact dosages of all those together.

  4. Wish DNP was a research chem

  5. ECA or Slim FX.
    Both will provide insane energy. Slim FX will cause you to not want to eat. I had to literally force food down.

    Be careful with stims like these.
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  6. Quote Originally Posted by braxbrah View Post
    How much do you consider low dose DNP? I'd be interested to hear your exact dosages of all those together.
    Depends on the source some do 250 mg some do 150 caps. I have done 250/day for about 3 weeks with EC 3/day, alpha t2 4/day. Great fat loss went from 207lbs to 198lbs with absolutely no strength loss or size loss. Strict diet carb cycling. No cardio.

    Im off dnp just alpha t2 and EC right now. Currently 193lbs with intermittent fasting and still strict diet, still no cardio. I do have more DNP on the way looking to run 450mg for 3 weeks, with eca and AT2 and 11 oxo. then ill head onto my tren e, test e, mast cycle.
    The difference between who you are and who you want to be is what you do.

  7. Quote Originally Posted by kevinhy View Post
    I think fasted HIIT, especially on a keto diet, is no bueno. LISS is the way to go, especially if doing low carb, save your glycogen for weight training.
    Yep...low intensity steady state cardio is best on a keto diet, especially post workout. I personally prefer sprints though since it saves on time. If worried about glycogen/strength, then up the volume and don't focus on strength during your cut. You can still do higher volume with less glycogen stores, and it will still do it's job at helping to retain lean mass.

  8. Dnp?!?! Stear clear from that!!! Not worth the fatal risks!

    If you are looking for natural sources for weight loss try:
    Pyruvate
    Thiamine
    Kelp
    L-Carnitine
    CLA
    Yohimbe

  9. Quote Originally Posted by MuscleGauge1 View Post
    Dnp?!?! Stear clear from that!!! Not worth the fatal risks!

    If you are looking for natural sources for weight loss try:
    Pyruvate
    Thiamine
    Kelp
    L-Carnitine
    CLA
    Yohimbe
    True that DNP is freaking dangerous but idgaf im still gonna do it.
    CLA is absolutely worthless. Fish oils>CLA
    Green tea is absolutely magical currently 3g daily for about 2 1/2 months and its awesome. L-carnitine is also worthless we are able to make our own l-carnitine.
    Rasberry Ketones also awesome.

    Not going against you bro just stating my thoughts on a few of your recommendations.
    The difference between who you are and who you want to be is what you do.

  10. Coleus Forskoliin
    Raspberry Ketones
    Rauwolscine
    PLCAR
    Of course ECA (in my opinion ECAs best feature is appetite suppression allowing ones diet to easily stay on track, of course it's Thermo properties are loved by many but if your diet sucks so do results)

  11. Quote Originally Posted by rochabp View Post
    L-carnitine is also worthless we are able to make our own l-carnitine.

    Injectable l-carnitine works
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  12. I used pes erase alpha T2 worked very well
    ECA T2 two weeks later job done
    next time will.be ECA and clen

  13. Quote Originally Posted by klint View Post
    I used pes erase alpha T2 worked very well
    ECA T2 two weeks later job done
    next time will.be ECA and clen
    eca + clen = one bad fukin idea!

  14. Quote Originally Posted by klint View Post
    I used pes erase alpha T2 worked very well
    ECA T2 two weeks later job done
    next time will.be ECA and clen
    Nooo! Ec plus clen is danger bro, just try Alphamine/Erase next time if you want to kick it up a notch.
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  15. Lol cheers for your coments guys its good to know you care. i know they can both put a strain on the heart as well as other areas so was thinking of 2 weeks clen then 2 weeks eca rest and repeat. any one know where to get samples of alphamine?

  16. Quote Originally Posted by klint View Post
    Lol cheers for your coments guys its good to know you care. i know they can both put a strain on the heart as well as other areas so was thinking of 2 weeks clen then 2 weeks eca rest and repeat. any one know where to get samples of alphamine?
    yeh. i want samples to!!

  17. my dealer said it was...

  18. Quote Originally Posted by murk01 View Post
    eca + clen = one bad fukin idea!
    I believe I read a column by Dave Palumbo several years back where he said ECA + Clen. was par for the course for most "pros", along with all of the other pre-contest drugs they were taking. It may not have been Palumbo, but it was one of your so-called pre-contest "gurus". I remembered thinking that ECA + Clen. was risk enough without even mentioning all of the other compounds they were using. Just THINKING about using those two together scares me. It amazes me that some people can put their bodies through so much and come out looking fine from a health perspective on the other end. ECA + Clen. = One bad fukin idead indeed!

  19. Quote Originally Posted by Ceredumbellum View Post
    I believe I read a column by Dave Palumbo several years back where he said ECA + Clen. was par for the course for most "pros", along with all of the other pre-contest drugs they were taking. It may not have been Palumbo, but it was one of your so-called pre-contest "gurus". I remembered thinking that ECA + Clen. was risk enough without even mentioning all of the other compounds they were using. Just THINKING about using those two together scares me. It amazes me that some people can put their bodies through so much and come out looking fine from a health perspective on the other end. ECA + Clen. = One bad fukin idead indeed!
    True dat. I would shake like a polaroid picture everytime I took Clen in the morning, and I was under-dosing it. It even helped me get a sweet Anxiety disorder... I can not imagine adding ECA to that, or fathom the need for it. Clearly not needed.

    Now if we were talking about adding Albuterol to Clen, now thats a completely different story...

    (yeah, that was sarcasm.)
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  20. I heard CLen was naturally made to be used in livestock mainly horses. I also heard it can be potentially hazardous to your health
    I would be careful with this supplement. Muscle Gauge Nutrition makes a very safe fat burner called TRim Down Advanced
    scientifically proven to help you drop the fat. Give it a try next time you want to drop fat

  21. Quote Originally Posted by MuscleGauge1 View Post
    I heard CLen was naturally made to be used in livestock mainly horses. I also heard it can be potentially hazardous to your health
    I would be careful with this supplement. Muscle Gauge Nutrition makes a very safe fat burner called TRim Down Advanced
    scientifically proven to help you drop the fat. Give it a try next time you want to drop fat
    If memory serves me, there are two varieties of Clen: Human grade and animal grade. I believe Clen is still used in several European countries for a wide range of medicinal purposes. Again, I'm just going off recollection because I haven't studied Clen in years. I'll dig into it a bit more to make sure what I'm stating is factual, though I'm pretty certain it is.

  22. Yea make sure you research the info about Clen and let me know what you come up with. I think a safe bet would
    be to go with Muscle Gauge Nutrition makes a great fat burner called Trim Down Advanced and it's scientifically
    proven to burn fat. I've seen some before and after shots of people that have used it and they look great!

  23. Sorry, what's the name of the scientifically proven supp to burn fat again? I missed it.
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  24. idiotic


    i just became a member today and i think that will sit at the top of my "dumb" list for awhile

  25. Quote Originally Posted by MuscleGauge1 View Post
    Yea make sure you research the info about Clen and let me know what you come up with. I think a safe bet wouldbe to go with Muscle Gauge Nutrition makes a great fat burner called Trim Down Advanced and it's scientificallyproven to burn fat. I've seen some before and after shots of people that have used it and they look great!
    your product is basically yohimbe, caffeine, and asprin. i'd rather stick with the original ephedrine + caffeine. but just for ****s and giggles can i see the scientific backing for your product.
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  26. Quote Originally Posted by Ceredumbellum View Post
    If memory serves me, there are two varieties of Clen: Human grade and animal grade. I believe Clen is still used in several European countries for a wide range of medicinal purposes. Again, I'm just going off recollection because I haven't studied Clen in years. I'll dig into it a bit more to make sure what I'm stating is factual, though I'm pretty certain it is.
    clenbuterol is an amine. the molecule does not change if used for people vs animals so its the same exact thing regardless.is it healthy? hell no. long acting beta agonists have been shown to lead to a higher mortality rate. and the LABA's on the market have a 24 hour half life... clen has a 36hr half life, so its even worse. but the real kicker is clenbuterol has been shown to kill cardiac cell tissue. but clen's fat burning efficacy cannot be disputed.
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  27. Quote Originally Posted by tnubs View Post
    your product is basically yohimbe, caffeine, and asprin. i'd rather stick with the original ephedrine + caffeine. but just for ****s and giggles can i see the scientific backing for your product.
    It is proven to get great results. To request a scientific report you can email our owner at [email protected] his name is Robert Reed he can help you out. Let me know what you find out! I think it is a great product and definetely will get great fat loss results. Let me know what you think

  28. Well, to be real honest, even coffee is scientifically proven to help fat loss; it's all a matter of point of view and magnitude.
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  29. Is there a study done on your exact product? Because its a prop blend, so I can only assume everything is not dosed properly based on scientific studies for safety and efficacy. I dont understand why u made two posts about how awesome it was and it was scientifically proven but then cant post proof?

    Quote Originally Posted by bla55 View Post
    Well, to be real honest, even coffee is scientifically proven to help fat loss; it's all a matter of point of view and magnitude.
    This is honestly what I was expecting him to show a study of. Some caffeine study that also could be used for every single other fatburner out there lol... But I sent the guy an email anyway
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  30. Quote Originally Posted by tnubs View Post
    Is there a study done on your exact product? Because its a prop blend, so I can only assume everything is not dosed properly based on scientific studies for safety and efficacy. I dont understand why u made two posts about how awesome it was and it was scientifically proven but then cant post proof?



    This is honestly what I was expecting him to show a study of. Some caffeine study that also could be used for every single other fatburner out there lol... But I sent the guy an email anyway
    Caffeine is proven bro. Two liter bottle of Dr. Pepper is all the fat burner you need.
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