What supplements WORK for fat loss!!!

[howwedo107]

ECA is a killer!!! no sleep required!!! hahahahahahaha!!!! stay up for days and lift your ass offfff!!!!! ECA causes your brain to quit producing chemicals that promote emotion, so you r a zombie. no sad days no mean days, no happiness nothing just you the gym and the dinner table... pretty badass if youre single if not then ur ****ed.

Don't you mean meth.....

[toddgranit]

ECA is a killer!!! no sleep required!!! hahahahahahaha!!!! stay up for days and lift your ass offfff!!!!! ECA causes your brain to quit producing chemicals that promote emotion, so you r a zombie. no sad days no mean days, no happiness nothing just you the gym and the dinner table... pretty badass if youre single if not then ur ****ed.

I don't know what kind of ECA you're using.
Peace

[runner_79]

Train harder, eat less but preferably train harder and manipulate carb intake

[jbflift]

DNP

[braxbrah]

DNP

DNP although effective makes you feel complete crap...sweaty with interrupted poor quality sleep. Your workouts are also far from optimal. Forget cardio. Im not one of these believers in " omg dnp is so dangerous you are going to die" bla bla, but honestly most people only manage two weeks maximum on it because of the comfortableness of using it. ECA is a much, much better option. Although its not as effective in speeding your metabolism you can stay on it longer, it'll reduce appetite and still allow you to have effective workouts. DNP is just a short term measure with uncomfortable side effects.

[blacklac]

Fasted HIIT.
Peace

Why would you do fasted HIIT with a Keto diet? Or were you not necessarily answering for the OP's specific situation?

For my input to the OP, Keto + Alphamine + TTA-500.

[kevinhy]

Why would you do fasted HIIT with a Keto diet? Or were you not necessarily answering for the OP's specific situation?

For my input to the OP, Keto + Alphamine + TTA-500.

I think fasted HIIT, especially on a keto diet, is no bueno. LISS is the way to go, especially if doing low carb, save your glycogen for weight training.


Also, I agree with your stack, would be sick!

[loganchristop]

I would use the ECA stack coupled with low calorie intake and you should be fine

[mk3less]

Low calories and heavy weight training best stack thier is.

[gregg1494]

Don't you mean meth.....

I thought meth was good for you....

[rochabp]

Alright just a breif backround so i don't get the "diet diet diet" comments. I use to be 285lbs and now 195lbs, so yes i know how to diet "keto works wonders and currently on it" diet in check bla bla bla. I'm just looking for that extra edge to get another lb or two off here and there, and just wondering the things people have used to get that extra help.

Currently i have
T3
Eca
Green tea

Yes i know about t3, used it many times bla bla bla

And of course i have the basics
Protein
creatine
fish oil
multi

So what have you used to get that extra edge that you fealt worked.

Looking into adding erase (have used before with some benifit)

My formula for cutting
Thermo- choose one (i choose ECA)
estrogen control- (i choose exemestane
cortisol control (i choose 11 keto test)
thyroid (i choose 3,3 2 and 3,3 5)

its not about supplements its about the different mechanism you can use at the same time to create fat burning environment.

Diet of choice is Lean Gains and reverse pyramid training

[rochabp]

DNP although effective makes you feel complete crap...sweaty with interrupted poor quality sleep. Your workouts are also far from optimal. Forget cardio. Im not one of these believers in " omg dnp is so dangerous you are going to die" bla bla, but honestly most people only manage two weeks maximum on it because of the comfortableness of using it. ECA is a much, much better option. Although its not as effective in speeding your metabolism you can stay on it longer, it'll reduce appetite and still allow you to have effective workouts. DNP is just a short term measure with uncomfortable side effects.

Not even close low dose DNP and ECA best dam stack ever. Add some thyroid support cortisol control and estrogen control and let their be greatness

[braxbrah]

How much do you consider low dose DNP? I'd be interested to hear your exact dosages of all those together.

[Stroke UR Ego]

Wish DNP was a research chem

[Clickster]

ECA or Slim FX.
Both will provide insane energy. Slim FX will cause you to not want to eat. I had to literally force food down.

Be careful with stims like these.

[rochabp]

How much do you consider low dose DNP? I'd be interested to hear your exact dosages of all those together.

Depends on the source some do 250 mg some do 150 caps. I have done 250/day for about 3 weeks with EC 3/day, alpha t2 4/day. Great fat loss went from 207lbs to 198lbs with absolutely no strength loss or size loss. Strict diet carb cycling. No cardio.

Im off dnp just alpha t2 and EC right now. Currently 193lbs with intermittent fasting and still strict diet, still no cardio. I do have more DNP on the way looking to run 450mg for 3 weeks, with eca and AT2 and 11 oxo. then ill head onto my tren e, test e, mast cycle.

[Gutterpump]

I think fasted HIIT, especially on a keto diet, is no bueno. LISS is the way to go, especially if doing low carb, save your glycogen for weight training.

Yep...low intensity steady state cardio is best on a keto diet, especially post workout. I personally prefer sprints though since it saves on time. If worried about glycogen/strength, then up the volume and don't focus on strength during your cut. You can still do higher volume with less glycogen stores, and it will still do it's job at helping to retain lean mass.

[MuscleGauge1]

Dnp?!?! Stear clear from that!!! Not worth the fatal risks!

If you are looking for natural sources for weight loss try:
Pyruvate
Thiamine
Kelp
L-Carnitine
CLA
Yohimbe

[rochabp]

Dnp?!?! Stear clear from that!!! Not worth the fatal risks!

If you are looking for natural sources for weight loss try:
Pyruvate
Thiamine
Kelp
L-Carnitine
CLA
Yohimbe

True that DNP is freaking dangerous but idgaf im still gonna do it.
CLA is absolutely worthless. Fish oils>CLA
Green tea is absolutely magical currently 3g daily for about 2 1/2 months and its awesome. L-carnitine is also worthless we are able to make our own l-carnitine.
Rasberry Ketones also awesome.

Not going against you bro just stating my thoughts on a few of your recommendations.

[MM11]

Coleus Forskoliin
Raspberry Ketones
Rauwolscine
PLCAR
Of course ECA (in my opinion ECAs best feature is appetite suppression allowing ones diet to easily stay on track, of course it's Thermo properties are loved by many but if your diet sucks so do results)