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  1. Cant not drop a single pound, what am i doing wrong?


    Some help form you experienced awesome gents..

    I know results take time and don't come fast, but not a single pound concerns me.

    I'm 31, 5'9 , been stuck at 210 for quite a while this is before diet and exercise, doesn't matter if I stuffed myself at a buffet thanksgiving or whatever always remained at 210. Fast food daily even twice a day was my routine, no exercise and plenty soda and beer , still 210. Here and there I would start working out and stop still 210.

    Now I have been working out hard , well at least for me as a beginner step, 2 hours each morning fasted, chest/back 50 minute cardio, arms tris, 50 minute cardio , shoulders 50 minute cardio, etc..sure I pour sweat and drain myself, Diet , not perfect and detailed as most here but 100% turn around from what I used to eat, no fast food during the week, I watch my calories, eat less, swith to wheat whole grain fat free this and that, plenty fruit and veggies, no soda or beer at least not during the week, and only cheat on Sunday maybe Saturday too, even then its only a meal and a few beers. Still 100% turn around

    No fat burners yet,except for Lean xtreme, although I have some Dexaprine on the way to see if that gives me the push, all I take right now is the lean xtreme, protein, bcaa's and multi,fish oil , oh yeah and craze pwo.

    This has been my routine for about a month now, I would think one pound would at least be in the books, had not weighed myself for two weeks hoping for a surprise but NO..does it take more time, I do feel the stomach less bloated but still plenty of fat hanging around. Muscle has came back a little from when I used to work out years ago, I do see that, can any pounds I lose be now pounds of muscles?

    Excuse the long post, just a little discouraged but definitely am not giving up , not now not later. Any tips or advice..thanks


  2. Calculate your basal metabolic rate and eat 200 calories less then that.
    Do HIIT 4 times a week.
    Do high intensity weight lifting.
    Take out your processed foods.
    Drink plently of water.
    Stop drinking sugary drinks.
    Eat vegetables.
    Eat fruit.
    Eat meat, eggs and fish.
    .......
    Profit
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  3. Never enough
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    you see fat vegetarians right? eating better foods doesn't guarantee loss. measure + weigh. figure what amount you really are eating.
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  4. Quote Originally Posted by Gerbil View Post
    Calculate your basal metabolic rate and eat 200 calories less then that.
    Do HIIT 4 times a week.
    Do high intensity weight lifting.
    Take out your processed foods.
    Drink plently of water.
    Stop drinking sugary drinks.
    Eat vegetables.
    Eat fruit.
    Eat meat, eggs and fish.
    .......
    Profit
    Thanks Gerbil, HIIT I do evreyday some form of it during cardio.
    I will weed out my processed foods, water Im drowning myself in it now, before not even a cup a day, now Im at about 150 floz a day.
    Sugary drinks havent been a problem as water is my only liquid aside from fat free milk for my protein.
    will up the veggies ,Ive been staying away from meat doing mostly chicken and fish, so meats is ok?
    And Im looking into this IIFYM diet I seen posted by someone else, is that any good? Im just reading up on it.

    thanks again

  5. Quote Originally Posted by EasyEJL View Post
    you see fat vegetarians right? eating better foods doesn't guarantee loss. measure + weigh. figure what amount you really are eating.
    yeah I get you, I do look at my portions dont weigh them out though, might get into that, i dont expect a miracle with what Im doing, my only really point is i would think that from the lifestyle I was at which was straight couch potato eating everything in site , to the 100% active turn around now, I would have thought I deserved a little progress, but Im guessing its coming!
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  6. I love seeing pudgy vegetarians eating chocolate cake saying they are healthier then me.
    It makes me realize there is a god.

    Quote Originally Posted by EasyEJL View Post
    you see fat vegetarians right? eating better foods doesn't guarantee loss. measure + weigh. figure what amount you really are eating.
    http://anabolicminds.com/forum/cycle-info/223429-abscent-minded-log.html
    Quote Originally Posted by csa2179 View Post
    Pin the kittens with the tren, then attack the judges with the kittens, uppity bastards
  7. Never enough
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    iifym isn't the absolute worst idea, but it does ignore food quality which is pretty meaningful

    -Eat at least 1 gram of protein per pound of body weight
    -Eat at between .5 to 1.5 grams of carbohydrates per pound of body weight
    -Any remaining calories you have left in your daily total will come from fat

    is their plan. But the way it is structured that .5-1.5g of carbs can be from bananas or cotton candy. similarly the fat source/quality is left out too.

    something like iifym is decent so long as you do still use healthy calories, but then its not really iifym

    if you can deal with the initial hunger curve, intermittent fasting can make a big difference
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  8. Never enough
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gerbil View Post
    I love seeing pudgy vegetarians eating chocolate cake saying they are healthier then me.
    It makes me realize there is a god.
    at one point we hired a fat girl vegetarian at work, and I was just dumbfounded. An indian girl so it was all veggies and rice with sauces. Probably 5'3 and 220lbs+
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  9. That is so much fiber. She must have lived in the bathroom eating that much fibrous food.

    Quote Originally Posted by EasyEJL View Post
    at one point we hired a fat girl vegetarian at work, and I was just dumbfounded. An indian girl so it was all veggies and rice with sauces. Probably 5'3 and 220lbs+
    http://anabolicminds.com/forum/cycle-info/223429-abscent-minded-log.html
    Quote Originally Posted by csa2179 View Post
    Pin the kittens with the tren, then attack the judges with the kittens, uppity bastards
  10. Never enough
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    we fired her so fast we never found out. she had no idea what the hell she was doing
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  11. Quote Originally Posted by EasyEJL;3491994

    if you can deal with the initial hunger curve,[SIZE=4
    intermittent fasting [/SIZE]can make a big difference
    can you tell me a little more about this or point me in the right direction, is it like the fasting for 16-18 hours or so and eating only though a certain time window.?

    That is no problem , because of my schedule I already fast in some way.

    Any recommendations while we are at it, as far as supps or fat burners, the truth is I hate stims, dont do really well with them, thats why I chose lean x but havent seen to many results, I know dexaprine is strong and Im kind of reluctant on taking it, but I need some sort of push, only reason i take craze is for that wake up shot!

  12. Just fast for 16 hours and feed for 8 hours. I am personally on a fast for 20 hours feed for 4 hours which works pretty good for me. Make sure the majority of your calories is after weight training.


    Quote Originally Posted by theeboz View Post
    can you tell me a little more about this or point me in the right direction, is it like the fasting for 16-18 hours or so and eating only though a certain time window.?

    That is no problem , because of my schedule I already fast in some way.

    Any recommendations while we are at it, as far as supps or fat burners, the truth is I hate stims, dont do really well with them, thats why I chose lean x but havent seen to many results, I know dexaprine is strong and Im kind of reluctant on taking it, but I need some sort of push, only reason i take craze is for that wake up shot!
    http://anabolicminds.com/forum/cycle-info/223429-abscent-minded-log.html
    Quote Originally Posted by csa2179 View Post
    Pin the kittens with the tren, then attack the judges with the kittens, uppity bastards
  13. Never enough
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    thats it in a nutshell, keep your eating to 8 hours in a row or less.

    plenty of articles + scientific research on it

    http://anabolicminds.com/forum/conte...-affects-1618/

    http://anabolicminds.com/forum/conte...late-fat-1599/

    http://anabolicminds.com/forum/conte...meals-vs-1574/

    http://anabolicminds.com/forum/conte...reakfast-1566/

    http://anabolicminds.com/forum/conte...g-health-1467/

    and i will say that since it positively impacts insulin resistance, it does let you get away with eating more pixie sticks and cotton candy than a more conventional diet
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  14. Never enough
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    DCP is being clearanced out, is probably one of the best non stim fatloss out there

    http://www.nutraplanet.com/product/g...-180-caps.html
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  15. Thanks ill prob pick some up of that DCP..

    As far as the fasting Ill look into all those threads just a quick question it, is my protein shake which I usually have right after work out, with a banana in it, should that be scratched or , just the banana part because of the fasting . Thats usually my breakfast there.

    Thanks again. Also Im prob just drinking enough protein for half my body weight right now, because of not having so much access to it cause of my work day and also cause its really thick, MYOFUSION. And of ourse the price of protein another factor , is taking less protein than recommended a HUGE factor?

  16. BCAA's can replace the protien shake just dont take a ton of them they have a miniscule amount of calories but it shouldnt effect the fast.

    Quote Originally Posted by theeboz View Post
    Thanks ill prob pick some up of that DCP..

    As far as the fasting Ill look into all those threads just a quick question it, is my protein shake which I usually have right after work out, with a banana in it, should that be scratched or , just the banana part because of the fasting . Thats usually my breakfast there.

    Thanks again. Also Im prob just drinking enough protein for half my body weight right now, because of not having so much access to it cause of my work day and also cause its really thick, MYOFUSION. And of ourse the price of protein another factor , is taking less protein than recommended a HUGE factor?
    http://anabolicminds.com/forum/cycle-info/223429-abscent-minded-log.html
    Quote Originally Posted by csa2179 View Post
    Pin the kittens with the tren, then attack the judges with the kittens, uppity bastards
  17. Never enough
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    well, the shake or not depends on your feeding window. you don't have to work out fasted

    depends on who's recommended amount you are talking about. at 210, i feel you should take in at least 120g in solid foods, 160 would be better. Above that its by choice or desire
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  18. Cut the fat free milk and learn about glycemic index. Milk has a lot of sugar. Unless you are using it solely with your post work out shake. Also paleo lifestyle/diet is very beneficial. I'm attempting to IF with paleo meals. So far so good.

  19. Unless I've missed it, you've not mentioned your daily calorific intake. If calories are too low with your intense schedule, two hours, whilst fasted. You need ease back on your training and increase calories. I know it seems contrary to logic, but I have gone through a similar experience. I actually added fat when I increased training and reduced calories. My cortisol levels were so high that after a while I crashed and suffered from adrenal insufficiency and have been out of the gym for nearly two months.

    As someone mentioned workout out your daily calorie requires, deduct 200 - 300 calories and ease back on your training.

  20. Also just noticed, your title is a double negative congrats on the rapid weight loss.
    http://anabolicminds.com/forum/cycle-info/223429-abscent-minded-log.html
    Quote Originally Posted by csa2179 View Post
    Pin the kittens with the tren, then attack the judges with the kittens, uppity bastards

  21. If you really want to lose weight you need to track every calorie you take in, some people can cut out soda and lose ten lbs, folks like you and I though have to take weight lose a little more serious if we want to see success. You need to determine how many calories you need everyday (google harris benedict formula) if you account for the exercise drop 200-500 calories off per day and track it (3500 cal = 1 lb) so 500 cal per day deficit will lead to 1 lb loss per week. Also measure everything, it sounds like your having a little recomposition going on which is a good thing and common when you first start back up in the gym. If you lose an inch on your waist and don't lose weight that's a good thing, right? Step back measure, get a fit day or myfitnesspal account and start over.

    Not bashing IF but it is not a life style diet, in other words you need to change your life to fit the diet, where a good solid diet plan will fit with your life. IF is short term and should only be used once your stuck, if you start with it your chance for rebound weight is a lot higher.
    IMO you need to set you diet straight and determine your dedication to your cause, once that is in place and you've gone a few months you can start looking at tricks (IF, Keto, etc) to jumpstart your diet when it stalls. Starting off with a jumpstart method tends to lead to failure (not always, but holy crap just look around). Figure out your lifestyle diet FIRST, then when you run fad and trick diets you'll come off into you lifestyle diet and gain back 2 instead of 25 lbs.

  22. Not having read every post in this thread, my advice would be to come up with a meal plan and eat these foods every day! Logically to loose weight you have to be in a calorie deficit; and although you may be eating healthier you sill may still be eating too much food/calories. This would be the only explanation i could think of.

    What i would do is work out how many calories you are supposed to eat a day to maintain your current body weight and subtract 400 (this gives you a little room in case you slip up by 200 calories). Then create a structured and well thought out meal plan, and only eat these things each day. You will be setting yourself up for success. Then when you loose 2 pounds, do the same process again. because you will need to lower your calories more now to loose more weight.

    If it interests you i could post an example of the diet i used to drop 26 pounds last year to shred up for summer. I figure this may help you come up with a plan. A word of warning though, it was pretty boring....to say the least haha. You probably wouldn't have to start there, but it would be the direction you would have to head towards the end.
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  23. Never enough
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    Not bashing IF but it is not a life style diet, in other words you need to change your life to fit the diet, where a good solid diet plan will fit with your life. IF is short term and should only be used once your stuck, if you start with it your chance for rebound weight is a lot higher.
    That is bashing IF and also is wrong. It is a lifestyle diet and most pepper change their life far less to comply with it vs the 6 meals a day BS
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  24. Quote Originally Posted by Basso View Post

    Not bashing IF but it is not a life style diet, in other words you need to change your life to fit the diet, where a good solid diet plan will fit with your life. IF is short term and should only be used once your stuck, if you start with it your chance for rebound weight is a lot higher.
    IMO you need to set you diet straight and determine your dedication to your cause, once that is in place and you've gone a few months you can start looking at tricks (IF, Keto, etc) to jumpstart your diet when it stalls. Starting off with a jumpstart method tends to lead to failure (not always, but holy crap just look around). Figure out your lifestyle diet FIRST, then when you run fad and trick diets you'll come off into you lifestyle diet and gain back 2 instead of 25 lbs.
    IF IS my lifestyle diet and I find it better than the grazing method.

  25. Quote Originally Posted by theeboz View Post
    Thanks ill prob pick some up of that DCP..

    As far as the fasting Ill look into all those threads just a quick question it, is my protein shake which I usually have right after work out, with a banana in it, should that be scratched or , just the banana part because of the fasting . Thats usually my breakfast there.

    Thanks again. Also Im prob just drinking enough protein for half my body weight right now, because of not having so much access to it cause of my work day and also cause its really thick, MYOFUSION. And of ourse the price of protein another factor , is taking less protein than recommended a HUGE factor?
    Anything with a caloric value will break the fast. I find it's easier to cut calories when you only eat during the feeding window. Also don't worry about working out fasted you need to break the myth of needing protein and carbs right after your workout.

  26. Quote Originally Posted by EasyEJL View Post
    That is bashing IF and also is wrong. It is a lifestyle diet and most pepper change their life far less to comply with it vs the 6 meals a day BS
    Relax it's just my opinion, like I said some people may be able to adjust to that. When I hit 10% I do some crazy diets to get below that but I can't maintain those diets with work, family etc. You have to do what works for you...long term, that is all I'm saying and Theeboz is just starting out, from my experience it's better to jump in slowly not head first, that's how you get your neck broke JMHO
    I never bashed IF, I know it works it's just not a life style diet for MOST people.
    This is an exchange of ideas to try and help a bro out, that is all I'm doing giving my ideas and opinions not trying to bash anyone or anything.
  27. Never enough
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    Yeah, my feeling on it as a lifestyle diet is due to it being way easier to be compliant with it than most others. pick an 8 hour span to eat in, don't eat outside that. regardless of any other claims on IF, the thing that stands out is vs any other dietary strategy, eating identical food composition on IF ends up with you having better insulin sensitivity. What that means for the most part is you can afford to be more involved and less afraid of normal social eating. No "oh I can't have any cake/ice cream/whatever" at a party. And that can make a huge difference with compliance long term. That seems to be the worst part of 99% of the standard diets, you have to build in cheats and social life doesn't necessary work by a simple calendar.
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  28. Hey thanks to all who have chimed in, appreciate the direction and advice..one thing everyone seems to agree with i definitely need to keep track of them calories instead of just feeling like I am eating better and lighter.

    I believe i once calculated my needs to be at around 1800-2000 daily before I was active, I do believe roughly estimating Ive been keeping at 1500 daily. But that's rough estimating daily, I will definitely be stricter on that..

    thanks to all definitely will be checking out some meal plans as well, i don't mind boring if its getting the job done!

  29. Quote Originally Posted by THOR 70 View Post
    Cut the fat free milk and learn about glycemic index. Milk has a lot of sugar. Unless you are using it solely with your post work out shake. Also paleo lifestyle/diet is very beneficial. I'm attempting to IF with paleo meals. So far so good.
    Yeah only take the milk with the protein, that myofusion is too thick and dont really like the taste in just water, sometimes a mix of water and milk. thanks for the heads up though

    Quote Originally Posted by saggy321 View Post
    Unless I've missed it, you've not mentioned your daily calorific intake. If calories are too low with your intense schedule, two hours, whilst fasted. You need ease back on your training and increase calories. I know it seems contrary to logic, but I have gone through a similar experience. I actually added fat when I increased training and reduced calories. My cortisol levels were so high that after a while I crashed and suffered from adrenal insufficiency and have been out of the gym for nearly two months.

    As someone mentioned workout out your daily calorie requires, deduct 200 - 300 calories and ease back on your training.
    Saggy, i think you hit it right on in a way, there's days I feel empty drained not the first weeks but lately yes, i feel exactly like Im doing too much and nothing is helping in sense of recovery , i have wondered if its that I dont intake enough food and burn myself out to failure everyday mostly, at least cause Im just starting out. The fasting in the morn before workout is not too much thats its part of my program , but mostly that I get up and am on a strict time schedule to make sure I have enough time in the gym...Ill definitely be trying to squeeze in a protein shake from now on with a fruit or something.

    thanks for all advice.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gerbil View Post
    Also just noticed, your title is a double negative congrats on the rapid weight loss.
    haha its is huh, it was just a case of typing away trying to get some resolution to my issue, don't congratulate me yet though ..ILL GET THERE.

  30. Quote Originally Posted by Doublejay View Post
    Anything with a caloric value will break the fast. I find it's easier to cut calories when you only eat during the feeding window. Also don't worry about working out fasted you need to break the myth of needing protein and carbs right after your workout.
    So protein and carbs immediately after a workout are not a must??? Ive been believing strictly in that.
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