- 06-25-2012, 12:50 PM
- 06-25-2012, 01:12 PM
- 06-25-2012, 01:18 PM
What kind of pb is that? I like the way those macros look. This pb and the naturally more pb are the only ones I've found with 10 g pro per serving. Sorry to get off topic a bit.Current Unsponsored XGELS log
06-25-2012, 01:22 PM
06-25-2012, 02:02 PM
Really? What the hell? The macros are different than my jar haha. Me too though. But my macros are 180 cals, 14 fat, 7 carb, 4 fiber, and 9 pro. Weird.
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06-25-2012, 02:07 PM
06-25-2012, 02:30 PM
Ha. Interesting. O well. No matter which jar you get it is still the best pb around IMO.
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06-25-2012, 02:41 PM
yeah, the only one better at all is power pb (made by the same company funny enough). sells for $8/jar. The only thing that makes it better is that they use honey instead of cane sugar as a sweetener. I used to get their 4lb jars, which if you found good sales you could maybe get at $20/jar if you bought a case (4 jars) But with the naturally more at $3/jar, it isn't worth it.
Have you ever tried their almond butter? I've never seen it in store, so have never bought it
06-25-2012, 03:11 PM
I'm on day 3 and the hunger is easy to deal with. It's just convincing myself that I won't ruin any gains by waiting 7 hours after my lifting session to eat. I'm so programmed to have a shake after my lifting session . That's the hardest part.
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06-25-2012, 03:20 PM
- 5'10" 183 lbs.
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- Jul 2011
I have not made it past a day or 2 on IF...Originally Posted by roblasane
I just added in cardio/HIIT to help burn some body fat & just reduce cals....
There's so many scenarios out now: no carbs after 7, eat your carbs @ night, low carb, 40/30/30 diet.... & so on.
06-25-2012, 03:23 PM
06-25-2012, 05:06 PM
06-27-2012, 08:48 AM
I'm currently doing IF with OEP to curb the hunger on the fasting days. It's easy as at the moment and i'm shedding quite a bit of weight. I've lost 2.5kgs in 4 days and about to go on my second rotation fast for the week. I highly recommend it, it's quite insane how good the results are. I'm going to introduce cardio next week into the mix after a solid weeks effort. Been having 2 meals on the day after i come off the IF, and 3 meals on the day after that. 36 hours of IF twice a week, i'm really looking forward to how i'll look after 1 month of hard cutting. I found that i lost about 30lbs in a month but then plateau'd and found it hard to break through. This has severely smashed through it and i'm quietly confident i'll reach my goal weight.
06-29-2012, 03:15 PM
2.5kg in 4 days? Thats a sh*t load of water dude, make sure youre drinking enough.
And thats 36 hours, not in one straight run I hope?
07-01-2012, 05:03 PM
I think I'm going to give this a try. I just have a couple of questions. I will start my fast at 8pm and start eating at noon. I will be working out at 530 I work 12 hour shifts so its the only good time for me. I am currently taking aminocore BCAA during my workouts. Would it be best to drink this in the morning after I wake up (10 calories),or 2x a day, or during my workouts how I am currently.
07-01-2012, 05:17 PM
What meal protocol are you following 1 meal pw 2 meal pw or fasted training?Originally Posted by rhino65
07-01-2012, 05:19 PM
Not sure what u mean? This method is new to me just started looking into it.Originally Posted by live to lift
07-01-2012, 06:03 PM
Look up the leangains web page bro. I would link it but I'm in my phone. There's several different protocols regarding training in your fasting period. look up the page and you'll be able to find the correct protocol for your situation.Originally Posted by rhino65
07-01-2012, 06:13 PM
Ok so after a little more research i think I will change my times. My work schedule is 5am-5pm I will eat from 530am-130pm and fast the rest. My work out time will be 530pm witch I will drink my BCAA's and Glutamine. I am also taking an EC stack ( sometimes with asprin not all the time) and just got some Green Tea extract(EGCg) 400mg. Not to sure how much green tea I will take I think i will start with the 400mg. Maybe I will take this pr-workout? What do u guys think?
07-01-2012, 08:04 PM
I wouldnt do this set up you need to follow either 1 meal pw 2 meals pw or fasted training let me explain with using my set up. I work from 10am to 6 pm i follow a 2 meals pw protocol where i break the fast at noon and i eat 20% of my daily calories, then at 3 or 4 i eat another 20% then i workout at 6 to 7 and my largest meal comes at 8 where i eat 60% of my daily caloriesOriginally Posted by rhino65
07-01-2012, 08:15 PM
yeah it is 36 hours in one straight run, what's the problem with that? do you think we have to eat every single day? i do the lean gains system with 1 day of fasting previously.
07-02-2012, 05:42 AM
07-02-2012, 09:36 AM
Ephedrine, Caffeine, and Asprin.Originally Posted by inda11
07-02-2012, 09:39 AM
Thanks! So I will run it just like that. But on my days off I will switch it up and work out fasting and run the 1 p. Or the early morning fast training as long as I am getting my higher calorie intake postworkout? Is it ok to mix it up like this? I have to get my workouts when I can balancing Family, Work, and Gym.Originally Posted by live to lift
07-02-2012, 12:52 PM
Keep your window of eating consistant and always stick to it again ill explain by example. My norm is as stated before eat from 12 to 8 and train at 6 thus following a 2 meal pw however on the weekends when i do not work i like to do fasted training my eating period is still 12 to 8 but i might train at 10 am instead of at 6 pm. Always remember if following this type of scenario to ingest 10g bcaa prior to your workout if training in a fasted state, hope this helps!Originally Posted by rhino65
07-02-2012, 04:35 PM
I have a question for you guys with experience in IF. As far as taking the BCAA Prework, does it matter if you use a good protein powder instead? Also, what about the off day, do you do IF also or just eat normal!
Thanks in advance
07-02-2012, 05:06 PM
This has all been gone over, but BCAA preworkout is the ideal protocol. Protein will break the fast, so it depends.
What do you mean by "the off day". If you mean non training days, most practitioners do a fast with reduced calories compared to training days and fewer carbs/higher fat sources.
07-02-2012, 05:31 PM
I apologize I just read thru the whole thread, right after posting my question, my bad! But thanks for your reply! I think I will go the BCAA route and probably get better results. Yes I meant on non training days. What about on cardio only days? Do you do the BCAA on those days also! I am in need of starting something different, I am a 40 yo female that has been training since I was 16 and competed back in the day, but doing the 6 meals a day isn't really working any more, after turning 40 it's alot harder to stay lean and loss body fat. So thanks again for your reply and any other advice or suggestions would greatly appreciated!!
07-02-2012, 05:38 PM
If you are doing AM fasted cardio on non weight days, the BCAA couldn't hurt. There are probably different considerations for women and your goals are likely different than mine though. I would probably get worn out trying to recover after doing cardio and staying low carb on a rest day.
Not having to be in the kitchen all of the time is NICE!
07-02-2012, 08:58 PM
I would be curious to see what some of u guys are eating. My First day fast went well not to tough. Eating all the protein is going to be tough though. Today Im having a protein shake with my meals.
07-03-2012, 09:44 AM
07-03-2012, 09:51 AM
07-03-2012, 10:09 AM
07-03-2012, 10:18 AM
07-03-2012, 01:04 PM
Ok I have been reading thru allot of threads and I'm hearing mixed opinions on the BCAA. I am currently taking while I am fasting and while I'm working out. On my off days I will have some only during my fast. Do u guys see any problems with this? Can I have too many BCAA's?
07-03-2012, 03:43 PM
The only time IF protocol calls for bcaa's is during fasted trainingOriginally Posted by rhino65
07-04-2012, 07:44 PM
Can you take a preworkout with the BCAA or should you take them at different times when following the FTP?
Thanks in advance!!
07-05-2012, 09:57 AM
Take inside your feeding window only, they will.break your fast (preworkouts)Originally Posted by gonzalezpg71
07-05-2012, 12:21 PM
Also BCAA's break your fast just as much as Protein powder. The issue is that whey powder takes longer to digest so you are out of the fast longer than with BCAA;s however make no doubt when you ingest BCAA's you are breaking the fast. If you have to use whey then go with an isolate and or something with whey peptides.
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07-06-2012, 09:05 PM
Thanks!!! Exactly what I wanted to know!!!Originally Posted by RogerBob
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