Wake up in morning, look shredded...by midday look like bloated crap
- 05-08-2012, 12:23 PM
- 05-08-2012, 09:30 PM
is the appetite suppression supposed to kick in on first doses? So far it hasn't done anything for that.
05-08-2012, 10:31 PM
1900cals on lifting days may be too low... This happened to me a month ago.. I wanted to drop BF fast for an upcoming trip to Vegas... So I dropped my Carbs low, bumped everything else. What I realized was I was actually accumulating more BF because my weight training was still the same intensity but I wasn't eating enough to keep up with it... When your not eating enough and training hard your body is catabolic and wasting muscle for energy, which in turn drops your metabolism... Best progress I made so far in my 15 years of diets and training and 5 years of bodybuilding has been the CBL Diet by John Kiefer... In the last 3 weeks since I started I went from 198 15% bodyfat to 207 now at 10%... I train 5 days a week Legs one day, Back & Chest one day, Shoulders Bi's & Tri's, then 2 days of H.I.I.T... But only for 15-20min. Plus a 5 min cool down. Doing 45min of H.I.I.T is way too long. Plus if you can perform 45min the intensity isn't high enough. 15-20min should feel like death if your doing it right.
05-08-2012, 10:54 PM
Not to mention I've been counting Cals on and off for years and I hate it... Now on the CBL diet all I do is count Macros... Morning wake up 5:45 coffee with coconut oil... Get to the gym where I work as a trainer... 7am client then 8am client... At 9am eat 8oz. of grilled chicken 1/4 cup walnuts... Train 930,1030,1130 clients ... At 12 eat 8oz grilled chicken, 1/2 cup cashews, big bowl of steamed broccoli or asparagus... Train 1230 client... At 2pm mix 6 scoops of grape I.C.E Bcaas and 4 grams a Beta-Alanine... LIFT THE WORLD UP AND DOWN FOR AN HOUR... Down a PWO shake 30 grams of whey, 30 grams of Casein, 50 grams of Dextrose, 50 grams of Maltodextrin... 5pm eat 10oz of broiled flounder and 5 skinny cow brand flying saucers (skinny cow.cause there's no fat) PWO till bedtime just protein and carbs lil to no fat... 8pm 2 scoops of Casein and 4 packs of fig newtons... 1030 swallow ZMA, POWERFULL, & 1 scoop of ARGININE PYROGLUTAMATE with LYSINE... Fall asleep at 1045 GROW and wake up at 545 looking harder and vascular in the mirror than I did the day before... Mirror is all that matters, and how you feel... Scale means ****..
05-08-2012, 11:16 PM
thanks for introducing me to the CBL however I will try this again in the fall when I'm not worried about my fat creeping in again. Right now I will go a more conventional route, carbs in carbs out and keep eating clean.
05-09-2012, 06:38 AM
Ok brother I hear you. I have no reason to make outrageous claims, Kiefer isn't paying me. It does sound a little skeptical but 9lbs isn't that unrealistic in 3 weeks considering wrestlers I train can lose 10lbs in a single night. I didn't say I've gained 9lbs of muscle, that my friend is outrageous. The reason is simple, I went from 50-100grams of carbs a day to somewhere around 500grams. The weight is coming from additional water. But its being store as glycogen that's why I'm dry and not bloated. It's not for everyone but give it a try in the fall it takes some time to get used to it, and learn what your body can or can't absorb.
05-09-2012, 08:12 AM
05-09-2012, 09:22 AM
05-09-2012, 09:30 AM
I would be interested in seeing your longer term experience with this, say after a few more months. Maybe you could start a progress thread here?
thanks Moose, stay strong and lean.
05-09-2012, 09:18 PM
05-09-2012, 10:33 PM
Yeah I'll def keep you posted. I also think the CBL could be working because I'm on a fairly new training split where I rotate Hypertrophy training weeks with reps in the 8-10 range only, 1.5-2min rest periods, and high volume in total number of reps. Then after 2 weeks it switches to really heavy reps in the 3-5 range only, 3-4 minute rest periods, and lower volume in total number of.reps.... It could be the combination is raising a better hormonal response... Who knows
05-09-2012, 11:00 PM
05-10-2012, 04:25 PM
05-11-2012, 09:26 AM
05-11-2012, 11:04 AM
too much flax
Maybe you're getting too much phytostrogens from 6g of Flax Oil
Besides that flax has secoisolariciresinol diglucoside (SDG Lingan) that inhibit 5a-redutase (lower DHT) and increse SHBG production.Code:Phytoestrogen Content (mcg/100g aprox. 4 ounces) Flax seed 379,380 Soy beans 103,920 Tofu 27,150.1 Soy yogurt 10,275 Sesame seed 8008.1 Flax bread 7540 Multigrain bread 4798.7 Soy milk 2957.2 Hummus 993 Source: www . totalityofbeing.com /FramelessPages/Articles/estrogeninfoods.html
Code:LinumLife modulates DHT via the following mechanisms: 1) Increase of production of Sex Hormone Binding Globulin (SHBG). SHBG binds to the free testosterone in the blood stream, making it unavailable to be metabolized to DHT. 2) Inhibition of enzymatic pathways by which the body metabolizes testosterone to DHT. LinumLife affects the following pathways: * 5α reductase * 17β OHSD * Aromatase * Luteinizing hormone (LH) Source: www . linumlife.com/health-benefits-p3725-en.html .
05-11-2012, 11:20 AM
wow zaire that is interesting... or should i say that sucks, never knew flax had a higher level of Phytos than even soy. Guess i'll stick with fish oil. thanks for that info!
05-11-2012, 06:55 PM
05-13-2012, 05:53 PM
Interesting, could it have to do with digestive issues? I have problems absorbing protien so I take Betatine HCI along with pro-biotics. Maybe that would help you also? Of course if you like this and see it as a benifit then why change anything.
05-13-2012, 08:54 PM
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