Antioxydants : How much do they help YOU?
01-03-2005 10:28 AM
This is a repost from an article I found and not my words..Alot of you will know this by the correct spelling and punctuation...LOL
Originally Posted by slipondajimmy
In addition to its potential cardioprotective action, green tea extract may serve as an aid to weight loss: in clinical trials it appears to raise metabolic rates and speed up fat oxidatin. Dulloo and colleagues at the University of Geneva, Switzerland, demonstrated that in addition to caffeine, green tea contains catechin polyphenols that raise thermogenesis (the rate at which calories are being burned) and overal energy expenditure. This metabolism-boosting effect seems to be independent of the supplemental caffeine the study's subjects consumed. Although millions of cultures throughout the world consume coffee and tea, only coffee's effect on fat metabolism by virtue of its caffeine content has been widely studied. But caffeine's increase of metabolic rates has only been noted at much higher doses than the 150 mg/daily of this study, which is barely the amount in one cup of brewed coffee. And since caffeine is known to increase heart rate, green tea appears to provide a safer alternative for obese patients who may have hypertension or other cardiovascular problems. Of particular interest in this sutdy is the fact that subjects who received only caffeine--not green tea--showed no change in their metabolic rates. Rather, the authors propose a synergistic interaction between caffeine and other bioactive ingredients in the green tea extract which helped to promote a higher rate of fat burning.
01-03-2005 05:53 PM
I take Vitamins C and E, and I just started out with Selenium. Its supposed to be a very powerful antioxidant (says so on the label, and I always trust supplement labels ). Anybody have experience with Selenium?
01-03-2005 06:51 PM
At the research reactor that I worked at previously, they did a 5 year research study on selenium and its effects on certain types of cancer. The study showed a very significant difference in people getting cancer as opposed to those that didn't in relation to their selenium intake and levels in the body. I highly recommend selenium(yeast derived) as part of your daily supplement intake. Do not take over 200mcg daily.
01-03-2005 07:43 PM
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I don't really understand the options to choose from. I use anti-oxidents and have for YEARS but have NO idea if they work or not. Meaning if I forgot to take them for 2 weeks I would fee no difference than when I get started back on them
Originally Posted by LunaHotel
I don't understand how I would know.
I use them 'just in case' they work.
01-04-2005 02:09 AM
Wow, cancer sucks so I'm glad I'm on it . Why is it bad to have over 200mcg tho?
Originally Posted by Sir Foxx
01-04-2005 08:18 AM
toxicity. Look up selenium toxicity and its effects. It's not good if you overdo it.
03-21-2005 03:12 PM
Selenium can bioaccumulate at doses over 1000mcg per day and become toxic. This is especially a concern for women as it seems to accumulate in fatty areas as well as reproductive organs. Just take 100mcgs per day and don't mega dose it.
I've been using 100mcgs of selenium a day with about 1600 mcgs a day of folic acid and 600 mg of ALCAR-ARGinate. I have to say, this is been the best antidepressant stack I've ever done. Mood is great and my homocysteine levels are probably good and low.
03-21-2005 04:04 PM
I have used antioxydants for well over 10 years. As a mainstay I use 9-10 gm of C every day, 800 iu E, and Co-Q10 every day. Not something that will change your life dramatically over nite but I know that I recover from my workouts faster and my joints feel better as well.
03-22-2005 12:49 PM
Also, I like what Ive read about rosemary extract especially in relation to lipid peroxidation. Been mixing it into my grapeseed to stave off LP caused by daily arginine dosing. Has an odd mental effect at first..good..but odd.
03-22-2005 11:37 PM
Is anyone taking ALA?
I personally take 1g on WO days.
04-10-2005 01:03 PM
Anybody who says antioxidants are no good is a fool. What do you think would happen to our cells if we got no antioxidants?
I just want to point out the things like vit C and E are all good, but the real power is in phytonutrients like anthocyanins (sp?). So have your fresh dark berries such as cherries, boysenberries, blue berries and just about any plant that is colorful all the way through its flesh.
I also want to point out that going above 400iu of E can turn pro-oxidant and taking ascobic acid (vit C) is not nearly as effective as taking mineral ascorbates. Low dose (~200mg) r-ALA is also nice for preserving antioxidants I think. Seriously though, phytonutrients is still where it's all at.
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06-06-2005 07:13 AM
I occasionally eat this Kashi cereal called "Heart to Heart" that has Green Tea and Grape Seed extract in it, among a bunch of other good things. I also supplement with Green Tea.
06-29-2005 03:52 PM
It is difficult for me to tell the exact affect that antioxidants are having on my body.
I have been using C for a few weeks.
I just started using NAC and KR-ALA yesterday.
Looks like I might be getting some E to go along with it.
07-09-2005 09:08 AM
I work at a vitamin world, and I was ready to start useing green tea bec of all of its fat burning properties, plus its positive health effects. Then I read an article about its natural ability to " Lower Testosterone Levels." I dont know if anyones done any more research or anything on how signifintaly it effects t levels but i'm gonna start checking up now.
07-28-2005 04:23 AM
I take 200 mgs of ALA postraining.not the good kind r-k-ala..just spring valeys Ala brand
used to take nac ; that seemed to work well with my body
vitiman c i take 3-5 grams a day
and a Multi of course.
Originally Posted by djs2000
07-28-2005 08:16 AM
That's about what I use.
Originally Posted by NPursuit
07-31-2005 04:21 PM
Changed my life.
From ages 5-16 whenever I would get a cold or flu (probably once every 3-4 months), they would always last for like 2-3 weeks. I started bodybuilding around the age of 15 and learned a lot about vitamins minerals.
Now whenever I get a cold or flu, I take 2g of vitamin C and 1 multivitamin every 2-3 hours until I goto bed. Mind you, I only take those doses when I'm sick.
I know it sounds like overkill but I have never been sick for over 3 days since I was 16 years old using these kinds of regimines. Not once.
You can check out my current age next to my post count.
If that ain't a miracle, I don't know what is!
08-04-2005 12:23 AM
Just out of curiosity, am I the only one who gets a rather unpleasent (for lack of a less graphic term) anal discharge when taking larger doses of green tea extract?
I start dosing around 1 g at a time, and it gets not so fun.
Seems if I stick to around 330 mg at a time that I'm okay.
It took me a long while to figure out what was going on, but when I dropped the green tea extract, the problem disappears. Start it up, bang.
I still use it. I definitely like its effects. I also supp with vitamin C and E, though I don't really notice their effects.
08-15-2005 11:40 PM
Yeah, green tea does something strange to me also when I take too much at a time. ALA is also another one that one should be careful about. A few weeks ago I had bouts of nausea and about zero appetite (well, this part MIGHT be useful) because I was having 2.4g of ALA (not the r-ALA). Reduced the dose to about 1.5 to 1.8 gram a day and I'm good.
mtruther, I'm guessing if you STOPPED using C and E for a week or so, you would notice the effect THEN. If you train hard, that is.
08-19-2005 11:06 PM
have any of you guys heard of protandim?its expensive but its supposed to be the best