[Force of Green]

An answer to the simple question of what bodyfat do I (or whoever else answers) think you are at: I think you are around 13-14%. You look like you have a good framework and that you are an avid weightlifter. I personally don't care if you say you can bench 1,000lbs. I am not going to hoorang you for a video or a picture of you benching and then another one with you in the same outfit holding up a picture of your driver's license to prove anything. I wish you the best with your strength training and your training progress and think you will continue to lean out. If you have anymore questions, feel free to ask.

[Force of Green]

To Swollen87: Obviously it has a different meaning in Jersey then it does in Pa, but let's just say "you think your good, but yeah, your not."

It's the media that gives some all the Jersey people a bad name Some of us aren't that bad

[swollen87]

It's the media that gives some all the Jersey people a bad name Some of us aren't that bad

im not bad at all... i may speak my mind a little too often, but that has nothing to do with being from nj...

thats more of a personal "flaw"

asbury pk stand up lol

[Force of Green]

im not bad at all... i may speak my mind a little too often, but that has nothing to do with being from nj...

thats more of a personal "flaw"

asbury pk stand up lol

Haha. What's good Swollen? I'm actually in Tampa now, but I just got back on the forums. I have to update that.

[mball52]

^ thats not 400lbs...

this whole arguement was about OP not being able to bench 400lbs *(i believe he said OVER 400)

365 is a whole lot more believable than 400 for someone with as little muscle mass as him

correct. i know its not. i said i'd put that up because i am not doing a chest workout for a couple days. and just so ya know, sometimes pictures dont tell the whole story man. youve never seen me in REAL life so how can you really judge? there is such a thing as a bad picture ya know. i have plenty of muscle mass, but i CAN agree with yall that the pictures do look like i dont. when i post this video in a few days will you finally get off my case?

[TheMeatus101]

when i post this video in a few days will you finally get off my case?

YES, we'll get off your case, your box, whatever the **** you want to call it.

[mball52]

sounds good. ill be in the gym on wednesday. i will post the results, good or bad. no excuses.

[AtomicFox]

An answer to the simple question of what bodyfat do I (or whoever else answers) think you are at: I think you are around 13-14%. You look like you have a good framework and that you are an avid weightlifter. I personally don't care if you say you can bench 1,000lbs. I am not going to hoorang you for a video or a picture of you benching and then another one with you in the same outfit holding up a picture of your driver's license to prove anything. I wish you the best with your strength training and your training progress and think you will continue to lean out. If you have anymore questions, feel free to ask.

Good post man. I am not really sure why they want this proof of his statement. No one is forcing them to believe him.

[JajaNe20]

you wouldnt say that to my face....

and i dont think im good, i KNOW im good.... but i dont claim to be MORE than i actually am

OP clearly stated he benches 400lbs... and he doesnt... im not over here saying im better... just saying he doesnt do it

Nothing else to say but one thing "I would say it to you face there buddy "

[EasyEJL]

but body composition plays a large part in strength... and in short, OP doesnt hav it

Do you think the 148lber who benched 440 looked big? Do you think the 105lb college girls that can bench 275 look big? no, they sure don't.

this girl benches 225+at 105lbs, does she look big?

[TheDarkHalf]

In to watch.......

[swollen87]

Do you think the 148lber who benched 440 looked big? Do you think the 105lb college girls that can bench 275 look big? no, they sure don't.

this girl benches 225+at 105lbs, does she look big?

i wouldnt say she couldnt.... ive seen girls/guys that small hit numbers like that.... but never someone built like the OPs original pic hitting 400+.... i have been a personal trainer for a few years, and ive been wrestling/training all my life and have also got into powerlifting .... im pretty sure i have a good grasp on being able to tell who is strong and who isnt ... i do sh*t like this for a living..


and for you to say body composition has nothing to do with strength, i havent seen a 148lber lift 440, but odds are, i can describe to a T what his body would look like (and i bet hes not 6'0 tall 148lbs)

148lbs w/short arms, long thick torso, bulky for his height is MUCH more suited to lift 400+ than someone at 511 200lbs, thin with long arms (simmilar to OP)

look at how the top powerlifters are built in each weight class.... they have a substantial amount of muscle on their frame for their height which in turn = bigger lifts


think about it man... dont wanna fight, you know im right




.... btw....did you see her quads? that girl is in VERY good shape, and probably has bigger quads at 105 than most men do at 150-160.... i think i would be more impressed by her squat #s than her bench

[Force of Green]

That woman is absolutely Athletic with the capital 'A'. You are right about about the proportions part. I don't power lift, but with my height and proportions, I find it hard to increase my bench press. Then again, I don't know what kind of form everyone else is using, but I use a 4:1 eccentric/concentric tempo and barely graze my chest, avoiding any impact or 'bounce' effect.

[fueledpassion]

Wow that was really nice man, did it make you feel good?Anyway I'm guessing 12-13% mate =)

I agree. 12%.. I know I was 13.4% before I started cutting and I didn't look much different as far as definition but I was also much stockier since I'm only 5'5"..

[fueledpassion]

Wow that was really nice man, did it make you feel good?Anyway I'm guessing 12-13% mate =)

I agree. 12%.. I know I was 13.4% before I started cutting and I didn't look much different as far as definition but I was also much stockier since I'm only 5'5"..

[EasyEJL]

i wouldnt say she couldnt.... ive seen girls/guys that small hit numbers like that.... but never someone built like the OPs original pic hitting 400+.... i have been a personal trainer for a few years, and ive been wrestling/training all my life and have also got into powerlifting .... im pretty sure i have a good grasp on being able to tell who is strong and who isnt ... i do sh*t like this for a living..


and for you to say body composition has nothing to do with strength, i havent seen a 148lber lift 440, but odds are, i can describe to a T what his body would look like (and i bet hes not 6'0 tall 148lbs)

148lbs w/short arms, long thick torso, bulky for his height is MUCH more suited to lift 400+ than someone at 511 200lbs, thin with long arms (simmilar to OP)

look at how the top powerlifters are built in each weight class.... they have a substantial amount of muscle on their frame for their height which in turn = bigger lifts


think about it man... dont wanna fight, you know im right




.... btw....did you see her quads? that girl is in VERY good shape, and probably has bigger quads at 105 than most men do at 150-160.... i think i would be more impressed by her squat #s than her bench

I see what you are saying. And I haven't watched any of the junior powerlifting competitions in person just via youtube. And you know what the quality is like, so I don't know what any of them looked like shirtless, and you are right the 148lber with the 440 bench is probably 5'1".

I know though i've sort of got the reverse going on. If you look at my chest, quads, etc. you'd expect I can lift a good bit more than I actually can. I got the size but zip on strength. Which is fine by me, being an old ****er i'd rather not injure myself anyhow.

In the end though unless we were having an anabolic minds online powerlifting competition, I don't really care too much about what someone says they can lift, and even in logs I just look for progression, the absolute numbers don't mean much

[swollen87]

I know though i've sort of got the reverse going on. If you look at my chest, quads, etc. you'd expect I can lift a good bit more than I actually can. I got the size but zip on strength. Which is fine by me, being an old ****er i'd rather not injure myself anyhow.

In the end though unless we were having an anabolic minds online powerlifting competition, I don't really care too much about what someone says they can lift, and even in logs I just look for progression, the absolute numbers don't mean much

youre right, numbers dont mean much to the bodybuilder type, but for me... im hell bent on getting as strong as possible before im an old f*ck..


most likely if youve got the size, and the body comp, you probably just need to correct some form, and address lagging areas to get those #s up......

glad we see things the same

[TheMeatus101]

This song is dedicated to the Douchebags out there....enjoy.

[mball52]

ok, just got back from the gym. current weight:198.7 i attempted 405, however, only got it up about halfway. i was only able to get 365 for 2. when i was 230, i also ate everything in sight and didn't care about eating clean. i'm much more comfortable with my current lifestyle change then i ever was when i was at 230. so congrats guys, i cannot currently hit 405 after a 35 lb cut. y'all win. this will just be motivation for my next bulk.

[EasyEJL]

Nah, just train powerlifting style for a while where you are, you can add that 40lbs in 3-6 months

[swollen87]

ok, just got back from the gym. current weight:198.7 i attempted 405, however, only got it up about halfway. i was only able to get 365 for 2. when i was 230, i also ate everything in sight and didn't care about eating clean. i'm much more comfortable with my current lifestyle change then i ever was when i was at 230. so congrats guys, i cannot currently hit 405 after a 35 lb cut. y'all win. this will just be motivation for my next bulk.

its ok

im not mad at you.

cutting weight always cuts strength a little.... just keep training hard youll get it back


(ps. post vid of 365x2 or it didnt happen)

[Force of Green]

No big deal Just eat more cals! Eat more, lift more!

[mball52]

its ok

im not mad at you.

cutting weight always cuts strength a little.... just keep training hard youll get it back


(ps. post vid of 365x2 or it didnt happen)

you're killin me man. lol i just took a vid of a failed 405 that i deleted. i'll post one on saturday if it means so much to ya. haha

[TheMeatus101]

Just keep lifting, eating, slepping and you'll be at 400 before you know it.

[mball52]

Yea bruh, we were just busting your balls, i could give a **** wether u could bench 400 or not, just keep on eating good, lifting hard, and you'll hit 400 before you know it.

i figured, but either way, its all motivation. like i said, i'm in a lifestyle change. nothin but clean food from here on out. takes some time to get used to though. especially doing a low carb diet.

[TheMeatus101]

I'mma get em' when i get em', i loved em' and i fed em', live in peace i aint' gone' let em', when i see em' imma' wet em'.

[jaycuda]

Wheres the Saturday video?

[Machwon1]

Video!!!

[soontobbeast]

i wouldnt say she couldnt.... ive seen girls/guys that small hit numbers like that.... but never someone built like the OPs original pic hitting 400+.... i have been a personal trainer for a few years, and ive been wrestling/training all my life and have also got into powerlifting .... im pretty sure i have a good grasp on being able to tell who is strong and who isnt ... i do sh*t like this for a living..


and for you to say body composition has nothing to do with strength, i havent seen a 148lber lift 440, but odds are, i can describe to a T what his body would look like (and i bet hes not 6'0 tall 148lbs)

148lbs w/short arms, long thick torso, bulky for his height is MUCH more suited to lift 400+ than someone at 511 200lbs, thin with long arms (simmilar to OP)

look at how the top powerlifters are built in each weight class.... they have a substantial amount of muscle on their frame for their height which in turn = bigger lifts


think about it man... dont wanna fight, you know im right




.... btw....did you see her quads? that girl is in VERY good shape, and probably has bigger quads at 105 than most men do at 150-160.... i think i would be more impressed by her squat #s than her bench

I have to agree with swollen that body composition is a huge indicator. i know that i mentioned my dad was 135lbs, but, he had little to no fat. he looked like a monster at 135lbs. he still has more muscle than me and hes 68! dont know what that makes me lol. and i dont want to know either, for you aspiring a-holes!

[swollen87]

I have to agree with swollen that body composition is a huge indicator. i know that i mentioned my dad was 135lbs, but, he had little to no fat. he looked like a monster at 135lbs. he still has more muscle than me and hes 68! dont know what that makes me lol. and i dont want to know either, for you aspiring a-holes!

Wait, are you agreeing with me AND calling me an ahole at the same time