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    Albuterol Vs EC


    Which would you choose for fat loss/ a 10 week recomp.
    *note: I plan on running neither for 10 weeks, just that is the period of my recomp.
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    Between those two I'd go with ephedrine just for the stim kick. I still think clen is better than both of your options though.

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    Originally Posted by kanakafarian View Post
    Between those two I'd go with ephedrine just for the stim kick. I still think clen is better than both of your options though.
    Agreed but I don't want to play with clen.
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    Clen has less side effects than ephedrine does so it wouldn't make sense to leave it out of the equation? I guess ablut is your answer then?

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    Originally Posted by kanakafarian View Post
    Clen has less side effects than ephedrine does so it wouldn't make sense to leave it out of the equation? I guess ablut is your answer then?
    I did not know this, I thought clen was harder on your heart. I am pretty tolerant to EC.

    edit: I know that EC hits more b-receptors, but resting heart rate etc. is my concern.
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    Originally Posted by oogaly_boogal View Post
    I did not know this, I thought clen was harder on your heart. I am pretty tolerant to EC.
    Yes, any simulant causes a faster heart rate, thus leading to potential heart problems. I've been using it for over 12+ years, sometimes long-term, without a problem. I believe those studies on heart problems with clen use were done with rats. Who really knows though, I don't keep up with that stuff, though I use it often.

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    Originally Posted by kanakafarian View Post
    Yes, any simulant causes a faster heart rate, thus leading to potential heart problems. I've been using it for over 12+ years, sometimes long-term, without a problem. I believe those studies on heart problems with clen use were done with rats. Who really knows though, I don't keep up with that stuff, though I use it often.
    Well thanks, I will see if anyone I know has extra clen lying around so I can see how my heart reacts. I was looking at albuterol over clen for the short half life, I would like to give my heart a break a few times through the day vs clenbuterols lengthy boost.
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    Don't know much about clen other than people always talking about the bad sides and the "clen shakes".

    I'm doing EC now and other than being a little overly social really know side effects.

    also read Albuterol's fat loss properties were better than EC less than Clen but sides were little to none compared to the other two. I'm no expert so take it for what it is. I was also studying this and plan on getting some Ventolin and running instead of EC for a while. My brother used it and swears by it.

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    Originally Posted by pigpen75 View Post
    Don't know much about clen other than people always talking about the bad sides and the "clen shakes".

    I'm doing EC now and other than being a little overly social really know side effects.

    also read Albuterol's fat loss properties were better than EC less than Clen but sides were little to none compared to the other two. I'm no expert so take it for what it is. I was also studying this and plan on getting some Ventolin and running instead of EC for a while. My brother used it and swears by it.
    Nice, I have ran EC a few times, was fun except for trying to do cardio my heart rate went to hell.
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    Everyone responds differently to stims but from my personal experience, I would not say that Clen has less sides then Epehedrine. I can handle Ephedrine a lot better than Clenbuterol.

    To answer the question though, I would suggest Albuterol to Ephedrine. Albuterol is much easily tolerated. So much so I've known people to take more of it then they should, get into medical trouble because they didn't feel the same stimulative negative side effects on Albuterol like they would with EC or Clenbuterol.

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    Originally Posted by kanakafarian View Post
    Between those two I'd go with ephedrine just for the stim kick. I still think clen is better than both of your options though.
    I love eca. To me, it's effectiveness and relatively few sides makes it my cutting stack of choice. However, I am thinking of tossing the new Androlean with it. I've been following Volcom's log and he seems very impressed.

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    How about transdermal Clen? Would that be a better choice? Toss it in some sort of topical cream and all? Wouldn't that give you less sides and yet a pretty good outcome?
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    i keep hearing that Clen is dangerous and there are better options.

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    Originally Posted by bikeswimlive View Post
    I love eca. To me, it's effectiveness and relatively few sides makes it my cutting stack of choice. However, I am thinking of tossing the new Androlean with it. I've been following Volcom's log and he seems very impressed.
    I have been looking into the new andro line, I like the reviews just a bit expensive.

    Originally Posted by bla55 View Post
    How about transdermal Clen? Would that be a better choice? Toss it in some sort of topical cream and all? Wouldn't that give you less sides and yet a pretty good outcome?
    Filtration. The problem with many compounds is that if your digestive tract isnt filtering out the toxins and fillers, you are going to be taking them directly into your blood stream.

    That and I dont know molecular weight, it has to be able to carry the clen.
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    Originally Posted by oogaly_boogal View Post
    I have been looking into the new andro line, I like the reviews just a bit expensive.
    I'm in the same boat man. I do know Volcom is extremely reputable so when he said he was impressed, I started to seriously consider scooping some up.

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    Oogaly, since you have the weirdest name I have seen, send me a PM, I will hook you up.

    (I would have hooked you up either way, before someones makes a smart comment).
    Just inject.

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    Originally Posted by x_danny_x View Post
    i keep hearing that Clen is dangerous and there are better options.
    Don't believe the hype.

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    Originally Posted by bikeswimlive View Post
    I love eca. To me, it's effectiveness and relatively few sides makes it my cutting stack of choice. However, I am thinking of tossing the new Androlean with it. I've been following Volcom's log and he seems very impressed.
    Interesting, the lean will increase t3 and t4 somewhat so would add well to eca stack.

    Regarding the clen issue, at moderate doses I haven't seen anyone have side effects other than increased core temp and sweating. Higher doses ran over longer periods of time can cause some cardiomyopathy due to the beta cell stimulation.

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