YellowJacket
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This is a controversial diet to the general population, Im wanting feedback from you guys of any kind for a class project Im doing on low carb/carb depletion diets, so help me out men..YJ
In response:Ok well i know keto is a controversial topic. I dont like the idea of no carbs for a couple reasons:
1. How is an ectomorph supposed to get bigger while on a keto diet without carbs i dont think people cant get bigger.
2. Without carbs you are less likely to stick to your diet people need somes carbs for energy and such.
I dont know if that really answered your question but that is my views on Keto.
I had a few problems staying in Ketosis also. It wasn't until I completely cut out drinking diet Mt. Dew, that I could stay in a strong Ketosis state(instantaneous purple on the Keto Stix). I found myself part of the population where citric acid intake has a negative correlation on Ketosis.If you look at the diet on paper it seems great for loosing fat. The only problems are 1. it is extremly tuff to get into keto 2. It is even harder to stay in my opinion
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You know, I really hate to give Bill Roberts credit, but one of the best diets I found for me to shred up quick was simple..250 grams protein a day, 250 grams carbs, and heavy PH or AAS. Bill ran it at 200/200, I upped it because I weigh more. You keep the muscle, keep the pumps, and energy, and lose some fat real quick. It isnt the most interesting diet in the world, but with androgenic supplementation, works very well.
Definitely sounds interesting, but you didn't mention any fat, whatsoever. Is it meant to go 0% fat in this diet? Also, "heavy PH or AAS" could mean quite a bit. What combo's did you use/would you expect to work well?You know, I really hate to give Bill Roberts credit, but one of the best diets I found for me to shred up quick was simple..250 grams protein a day, 250 grams carbs, and heavy PH or AAS. Bill ran it at 200/200, I upped it because I weigh more. You keep the muscle, keep the pumps, and energy, and lose some fat real quick. It isnt the most interesting diet in the world, but with androgenic supplementation, works very well.
I would love to read it if you want to hook a brother up
I had a few problems staying in Ketosis also. It wasn't until I completely cut out drinking diet Mt. Dew, that I could stay in a strong Ketosis state(instantaneous purple on the Keto Stix). I found myself part of the population where citric acid intake has a negative correlation on Ketosis.
Do you have access to the book The Ketogenic Diet by Lyle McDonald? If you don't, PM me and I will mail it to you. I do not see myself ever needing it again.
No, he advocated no fat..really your living on protein and carbs. II was thinking of modifying it a bit..keeping calories and protien the same, just perhaps using a small amount of olive oil and/or flax seed first thing in the morning with some tuna perhaps just to get some fat in there.
Definitely sounds interesting, but you didn't mention any fat, whatsoever. Is it meant to go 0% fat in this diet? Also, "heavy PH or AAS" could mean quite a bit. What combo's did you use/would you expect to work well?
TKD are very effective in bodybuilding. Unlike other keto diets usually based on people that are not exercising (atkins) TKD's target the appropriate times you need carbs. FOr me its worked very well. I used carbs pre and post workout and consumed green veggies for the rest of my carbs. You do not include pre and post workout carbs in your carb count. I hate seeing people label keto diets as no carb diets. Certain keto diets that are better for bodybuildgin utilize carbs at the proper times. And the most important part of this is refeeds!!! You MUST have a proper refeed to utilize this diet properly.CCD I've heard is good. Another variation is the TKD, targeted ketogenic diet. It uses carbs strategically around your exercises to help you get more workout energy.
By the way, did anyone else see the news item? A study found that a high protein, low carb diet does nothing bad to your heart, at least over 3-4 months.
ah yes....teach us!CKD is my all time favorite diet! i lose 2.5-3lbs per week consistantly. I'll post my article of CKD for you guys to browse through.